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> From: Alan Gauld [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 2:46 PM
> To: Carroll, Barry; tutor@python.org
> Subject: Re: [Tutor] fail
> has been very interesting. It illustrates the fact that software
> engineering remains very much a craft. As with all crafts, is heavily
> influenced by the preferences (style if you will) of the individual
> artisan. There are very few 'right or wrong' answers here.
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--- "Carroll, Barry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greetings:
>
> The discussion surrounding this topic (by Payal,
> Kent, Alan and others)
> has been very interesting. It illustrates the fact
> that software
> engineering remains very much a craft. As with all
> crafts, is heavily
> influenced b
Greetings:
The discussion surrounding this topic (by Payal, Kent, Alan and others)
has been very interesting. It illustrates the fact that software
engineering remains very much a craft. As with all crafts, is heavily
influenced by the preferences (style if you will) of the individual
artisan. T
> the best tools. If you know shell, egrep and awk, they are probably better
> than Python at doing the things they do.
>
> For me, I don't know those specialized tools and I have chosen not to
> learn them because I don't often need their capabilities and Python can do
> what they do.
I must a
> can I use Python. Everyone says it is a "general programming language",
> but what in the world is a "general programming language"?
Others have already answered this. I'll add a few other comments.
A general purpose language is one that in theory means you don't
need any others. It can do any
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Payal Rathod wrote:
> can I use Python. Everyone says it is a "general programming language",
> but what in the world is a "general programming language"?
One idea behind a "general purpose programming language" is that it's not
specialized toward anything in particular.
Payal Rathod wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 07:35:15PM +0100, Alan Gauld wrote:
>> Python is a general programmjing language great for bigger jobs. If
>
> But what does Python excel at. That si my main question. Whatevfer I
> think of I can already do or know a way to do in shell. I am not ge
On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 07:35:15PM +0100, Alan Gauld wrote:
> Python is a general programmjing language great for bigger jobs. If
But what does Python excel at. That si my main question. Whatevfer I
think of I can already do or know a way to do in shell. I am not getting
where would I need Pyt
> On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 04:20:37PM -0700, Danny Yoo wrote:
>> http://gnosis.cx/TPiP/
>
> I will read that and Alan's tutorial too (isn't that MS-Windows specific
> ???)
Nope, it usually mentions *nix workarounds etc
Most of it is OS neutral. The OS and IPC topic are mainly
Unix centric.
On Tue, 2006-04-11 at 12:06 -0400, Payal Rathod wrote:
> The reason I am disgrunted with Python is because lack of good
> documentation.
http://www.python.org/doc/
The Python Docs - possibly you missed this because of the plethora of
links. The Library Reference used to have the tag line:
On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 04:20:37PM -0700, Danny Yoo wrote:
> http://gnosis.cx/TPiP/
I will read that and Alan's tutorial too (isn't that MS-Windows specific
???)
The reason I am disgrunted with Python is because lack of good
documentation. Shell programming has great text and so do sed and
On 10/04/06, Payal Rathod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> I am trying to learn Python seriously for almost 2 months but have not
> gotten far at all. Infact, it seems I have not understood even the basic
> concepts itself. I know some shell, sed and awk programming.
> I have tried reading Learni
>> What kind of real life problems are you interested in? You might like
>
> I am a parttime sys admin so I want system admin problem which usually I
> do through shell scripts like parsing logs, generating reports, greping
> with regexes etc.
My tutor is specifdically targetted at computer power
Paypal-
I do a lot of system admin type work with Python. If you'd like,
drop me a line and let me know what you're interested in
learning...perhaps I could help you work through a project or two.
Greg Lindstrom
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> I am a parttime sys admin so I want system admin problem which usually I
> do through shell scripts like parsing logs, generating reports, greping
> with regexes etc.
Hi Payal,
You might also find David Mertz's book "Text Processing With Python" to be
useful for you:
http://gnosis.cx/T
Payal Rathod wrote:
>> What kind of real life problems are you interested in? You might like
>
> I am a parttime sys admin so I want system admin problem which usually I
> do through shell scripts like parsing logs, generating reports, greping
> with regexes etc.
> The only thing I don't want i
Payal Rathod wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 10:05:45AM -0400, Kent Johnson wrote:
>
>> You might like to look at "Python Programming for the absolute
>> beginner". It is oriented to beginners and has many examples and
>> exercises.
>>
>
> I might not be able to afford another book, due
On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 10:05:45AM -0400, Kent Johnson wrote:
> You might like to look at "Python Programming for the absolute
> beginner". It is oriented to beginners and has many examples and
> exercises.
I might not be able to afford another book, due to high dollar-to-ruppee
rate.
> What k
Payal Rathod wrote:
> Hi,
> I am trying to learn Python seriously for almost 2 months but have not
> gotten far at all. Infact, it seems I have not understood even the basic
> concepts itself. I know some shell, sed and awk programming.
> I have tried reading Learning Python - Mark Lutz
> Think C
Hi,
I am trying to learn Python seriously for almost 2 months but have not
gotten far at all. Infact, it seems I have not understood even the basic
concepts itself. I know some shell, sed and awk programming.
I have tried reading Learning Python - Mark Lutz
Think C Spy
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