Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread Kevin M.
Paul Reiser explains to his son that Jay Leno is still a good guy: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-reiser/a-teachable-leno-moment_b_418197.html -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread Steve Rhodes
Letterman mentioned the Tomorrow show I think it was in this clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN6Q2YFFteQ though it might have been in the monologue http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAjxUgOXaXc -- Steve Rhodes http://flickr.com/photos/ari/ photos http://twitter.com/tigerbeat -- TV or

Re: [TV orNotTV] NBC expects to lose money on Olympics

2010-01-12 Thread Kevin M.
Conan O'Brien's response to this news on his monologue last night: Is it just me, or does anyone else find this story really, really funny? -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread Joe Hass
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Steve Rhodes srho...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN6Q2YFFteQ Someone help me with some background on this. I knew that Dave wasn't a huge fan of Jay. I don't know if something else happened, but that segment was almost cruelly against Jay,

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread Steve Rhodes
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote: But holy crap: did Jay run over Dave's dog or something? No, just his chance to take over the Tonight Show, his lead in the ratings... I actually thought it was pretty mild considering the history and how big a failure

[TV orNotTV] Jan C. Gabriel Died On The Most Appropriate Day Of The Week

2010-01-12 Thread Joe Hass
He worked in TV and radio in the Chicagoland area. But the reason he is noted here after his death two days ago is that, in his other role as a drag strip promoter, he came up one of the greatest lines in television history: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDYzidMqq4o Joe Hass -- TV or Not TV

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread Joe Hass
Again, correct me if I'm wrong, but I recall the story being that it wasn't that Jay took The Tonight Show away as much as NBC handed it to him behind Dave's back. Dave knew that NBC was the one jerking him around, not Jay. I did not know of the staff sex joke, but I don't think that's as much of

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread Joe Hass
Conan: Nope to 12:05. Money paragraph: So it has come to this: I cannot express in words how much I enjoy hosting this program and what an enormous personal disappointment it is for me to consider losing it. My staff and I have worked unbelievably hard and we are very proud of our contribution to

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread Steve Rhodes
Conan basically politely says fuck you to NBC and Leno while mentioning Carson Letterman http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/12/conan-obrien-says-he-wont-do-tonight-show-following-leno/ -- Steve Rhodes http://flickr.com/photos/ari/ photos http://twitter.com/tigerbeat -- TV or

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread Kevin M.
I think Conan did absolutely the right thing. I think it would be cool to see him in another venue or arena, even a weekly (but non-political) series on HBO (perhaps following Real Time?). He'll leave with dignity, and he is right that the blame for this mess does not rest on his shoulders.

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread donz5
It wouldn't surprise me if it's someday divulged that Conan and Dave had a private conversation, whereby Dave offered Conan the same advice that Johnny had offered him. On Jan 12, 4:04 pm, Joe Coughlin inturnaro...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Kevin M.

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread M-D November
Well, assuming the information in The Late Shift is accurate, Leno essentially heard something he wasn't supposed to hear (he overheard a conference call between NBC GE execs), then turned around used the information to blackmail the NBC execs to retain the Tonight gig when it looked like GE was

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread jeffrey marousek
let conan go to fox, fire jay (with his buyout), pay bill cosby 25 million to finish the season to fall when by then, hopefully, the suits can develop a real rescue plan. Jeff On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 4:12 PM, M-D November mdnovem...@gmail.com wrote: Well, assuming the information in The Late

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread donz5
I can see it clearly: The Tonight Show, Starring Craig Kilborn. On Jan 12, 5:18 pm, jeffrey marousek jeff.marou...@gmail.com wrote: let conan go to fox, fire jay (with his buyout), pay bill cosby 25 million to finish the season to fall when by then, hopefully, the suits can develop a real

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread Jason Carpio
The Tonight Show with Joe Buck On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 4:49 PM, donz5 do...@aol.com wrote: I can see it clearly: The Tonight Show, Starring Craig Kilborn. On Jan 12, 5:18 pm, jeffrey marousek jeff.marou...@gmail.com wrote: let conan go to fox, fire jay (with his buyout), pay bill cosby 25

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread Dave Sikula
On Jan 12, 11:48 am, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Steve Rhodes srho...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN6Q2YFFteQ Someone help me with some background on this. I knew that Dave wasn't a huge fan of Jay. I don't know if something

RE: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread Karla Robinson
Jason Carpio said: The Tonight Show with Joe Buck Karla replied: I just threw up in my mouth a little. -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to

[TV orNotTV] Re: Fringe Question

2010-01-12 Thread Bob in Jersey
Blame Idol. There are several Tuesdays in early '09 where they expanded to two hours. There was also Bam's non-State of the Union speech in February. -- BOB -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread Steve Rhodes
http://teamconan.com http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=242166564197 (though it really should be a fan page) There are several fan pages http://www.facebook.com/pages/Conan-OBrien-Is-The-Tonght-Show-King-Jay-Leno-Needs-To-Retire/239099496047

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread Steve Rhodes
And the obligatory iconic poster http://www.sirmikeofmitchell.com/imwithcoco/ -- Steve Rhodes http://flickr.com/photos/ari/ photos http://twitter.com/tigerbeat -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread Joe Hass
Michael Schneider of Variety: NBC to rumors that it's looking for Tonight Show guest hosts: No comment. It's getting interesting out there. More: Rumor comes from word that talent reps have been quietly asked about availability of clients to guest host Tonight. http://twitter.com/franklinavenue

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread Tom Wolper
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Dave Sikula dsik...@yahoo.com wrote: On Jan 12, 11:48 am, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I understand that it's a comedy program, and it's about the laughs, but that seemed more of an attack on Leno than on NBC. I also freely admit I don't usually

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread Joe Hass
Jason Carpio said: The Tonight Show with Joe Buck Karla replied: I just threw up in my mouth a little. SLAM-A-LAM-A-DING-DONG! -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group,

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread Steve Rhodes
*BREAKING NEWS! 3RD UPDATE*: There's a meeting that began at 1:45 PM at NBC Universal about The Conan War: On one side of the room are NBCU bigwigs Jeff Gaspin and Marc Graboff. On the other are O'Brien's reps: manager Gavin Palone, WME agent and board member Rick Rosen, and the newest member of

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread Wesley McGee
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Steve Rhodes srho...@gmail.com wrote: http://teamconan.com http://teamleno.com/ Dang! Also, this would seem to suggest to people which side Dave is supporting http://tinyurl.com/LawAndOrder-LVU -- Wesley McGee http://www.ambivi.com

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread Kevin M.
Has anyone anywhere bothered to ask Fallon or Daly what they think of all this? I don't really care what they think, I just find it interesting that they don't seem to factor into any of the major coverage, and NBC's initial proposal would have meant the boot for one of the and shaft for the

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread Wrecks
The Tonight Show with Joe Buck Could be worse. Could be Sarah Palin. -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread jeffrey marousek
could be worser...richard simmons On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Wrecks landofa...@gmail.com wrote: The Tonight Show with Joe Buck Could be worse. Could be Sarah Palin. -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread Jay Lewis
On 1/12/2010 7:20 PM, Joe Hass wrote: Michael Schneider of Variety: NBC to rumors that it's looking for Tonight Show guest hosts: No comment. It's getting interesting out there. To what end? A hold over until after the Olympics? Then what? Jay can't go back to Tonight at this point. It would

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread Ed Dravecky
Steve Rhodes srho...@gmail.com wrote:  Currently Team Conan #teamconan are trending topics on twitter Still trending, and I even dusted off my rarely used account to add to the fray. (Like peeing in the ocean, it makes little difference in the long-term but it gives a momentary feeling of

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread David Bruggeman
Letterman isn't going to quite piling on, at least not tonight: http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/01/12/letterman-adds-fuel-to-the-jay-leno-fire/ David From: Jason Carpio jcar...@gmail.com The Tonight Show with Joe Buck On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 4:49 PM, donz5

[TV orNotTV] Re: Fox open to Conan?

2010-01-12 Thread Bob in Jersey
Updating... BC's Michael Malone hearing OTR that Fox affiliates are not crazy for CoCo... they can't break out of longterm syndie sitcom deals, some are even planning to go head to head with Old Three stns' 11:00 news... and much as ABC did, Fox could be courting them for increased retrans

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread David Bruggeman
Don't know about Fallon, but Daly showed up during Kimmel (on Friday, I think) to ask if he still had a show. David From: Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com Has anyone anywhere bothered to ask Fallon or Daly what they think of all this? I don't really care

[TV orNotTV] Re: more Match Game please

2010-01-12 Thread Bob in Jersey
Kevin: Anyone who knows me on Facebook (or elsewhere) knows why I didn't post one yesterday. Suffice it to say, for those of you who pray, include in your prayers a 9-year-old student of mine who isn't expected to make it through the night. http://tinyurl.com/ashleyjournal Per her family,

[TV orNotTV] Last reason for Mom to watch Spike gone

2010-01-12 Thread Bob in Jersey
They're losing CSI:Vegas to USA... http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/443728-USA_Acquires_CSI_Rights.php -- BOB -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: more Match Game please

2010-01-12 Thread Kevin M.
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Bob in Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.com wrote: Kevin: Anyone who knows me on Facebook (or elsewhere) knows why I didn't post one yesterday. Suffice it to say, for those of you who pray, include in your prayers a 9-year-old student of mine who isn't expected to

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread Joe Ryan
Here's one guy thoughts on what going to happen with Leno and Conan. First NBC's going to pull Conan sooner rather than later because they can't have the host of one of their flagship shows slagging the network and Jay every night. Jay and NBC can say with SOME plausible deniability they

[TV orNotTV] Super Bowl ad rate falls

2010-01-12 Thread Bob in Jersey
A company that tracks things like this, finds that 30 seconds on the Feb. 7th CBS contest will run you $2.5 to 2.8 mil, down from $3 mil last year... but #44 will sell out quicker than #43... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100111/ap_en_tv/us_super_bowl_advertising -- BOB -- TV or Not TV

[TV orNotTV] Tonight Show Match Game

2010-01-12 Thread David Bruggeman
Yep. I'd also suggest that Andy and Max could make good regular panelists. La Bamba might work too, but perhaps only once in a while. David From: Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com Speaking of which (and related to the subject of this thread), wouldn't

Re: [TV orNotTV] Tonight Show Match Game

2010-01-12 Thread Kevin M.
Of course, this is all predicated on people joining me in my quest to bring the series back in a big (read: NOT Michael Burger) way. O'Brien as host would certainly generate a lot of buzz for the series. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 6:41 PM, David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.com wrote: Yep. I'd also

RE: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread Karla Robinson
Given the FOX affiliate skittishness reported earlier this evening (and it makes sense, as FOX affiliates seem to me to be under a looser rein than big 3 net affils), Conan may not end up there. The more I think about this mess, the angrier I am about Jay just sitting back and letting it all

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread Tom Wolper
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 10:14 PM, M-D November mdnovem...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 12, 5:52 pm, Jason Carpio jcar...@gmail.com wrote: The Tonight Show with Joe Buck I just threw up a little. Let's help you complete the action: The Tonight Show with Joe Buck featuring sidekick Tim McCarver --

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread Joe Hass
Now what he's done there, Joe, is to promote his new movie, which isn't as good as the movie Bob Gibson and I saw the night before he threw 19 strikeouts. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 10:33 PM, Tom Wolper twol...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 10:14 PM, M-D November mdnovem...@gmail.com

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread Joe Hass
If nothing else, Conan's letter today doomed Jay. Jay can't win. Even if we go back to the way it was and he gets 11:35 for an hour and The Tonight Show With Jay Leno, he'll be remembered as the guy who stole The Tonight Show from Conan O'Brien. I don't know if anyone is telling him that. I have

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread M-D November
On Jan 12, 9:22 pm, Joe Ryan jrya...@gmail.com wrote: Here's one guy thoughts on what going to happen with Leno and Conan. First NBC's going to pull Conan sooner rather than later because they can't have the host of one of their flagship shows slagging the network and Jay every night.

RE: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread Karla Robinson
M-D November said: Booking guest hosts for Tonight will be a logistics nightmare - no celebrity or comic in their right mind wants to get in the middle of all this. And NBC won't waste the 11:35 timeslot leading into the Winter Olympics by running Leno reruns - they're already predicting a loss

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread donz5
Bill Carter writes: Though some rumors appeared saying NBC might be lining up guest hosts, NBC quietly dismissed that notion. Indeed, such a move could have legal implications because it might be interpreted as NBC firing Mr. O’Brien, which could lead to a bigger settlement for him.

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread Kevin M.
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Karla Robinson karlasrobin...@zoominternet.net wrote: Karla replied: This is absolutely correct on all points.  Which leads to more unsavory speculation:  what wrong-minded celebrity would snap up this chance?  I can think of a few.Kathy Griffin comes to mind

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread JRyan10
On Jan 12, 9:51 pm, M-D November mdnovem...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 12, 9:22 pm, Joe Ryan jrya...@gmail.com wrote: Here's one guy thoughts on what going to happen with Leno and Conan. First NBC's going to pull Conan sooner rather than later because they can't have the host of one of

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread PGage
I have been at work and occupied with other priorities most of today - just had a few minutes to read the big news earlier this afternoon, and have tried to catch up on the posts here. Very nice move by Coco - as far as I can tell, if he walks away from NBC he is walking away from tens of

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread Doug Eastick
Conan was good tonight Jan 12th. discussion with Brokaw was good and came back a few times to the topic-du-jour. -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread donz5
On Jan 13, 12:03 am, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote: I have been at work and occupied with other priorities most of today - just had  a few minutes to read the big news earlier this afternoon, and have tried to catch up on the posts here. Very nice move by Coco - as far as I can tell, if he

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread M-D November
During the 12:30 ad break, the SNL promo with Sigourney Weaver mocked the late night situation: Sigourney, they're coming! Run! Who? Who's coming? NBC executives. They want the show to air at 2am! RUN! AHH! *home alone face* On Jan 13, 12:17 am, Doug Eastick east...@mcd.on.ca wrote: Conan

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread PGage
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:19 PM, donz5 do...@aol.com wrote: I took the Conan statement that you quoted a bit differently. ... resolve this quickly so that my staff, crew, and I can do a show we can be proud of, for a company that values our work sounded to me that he was reaching out to any

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Out At 10pm ET Effective 2/14

2010-01-12 Thread Steve Rhodes
I watched the Jay Leno show for the first time. It was really awful. Amazing millions of people actually watched it. Consumerist has email addresses of NBC execs http://consumerist.com/2010/01/eecb-nbc-to-save-the-conan-o-brien-show.html -- Steve Rhodes http://flickr.com/photos/ari/