Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: J. Stew sits with Rachel Maddow on just what the heck he meant

2010-11-13 Thread Wesley McGee
When Jon Stewart went on to to talk about ideology and partisanship and Fox News and MSNBC, by way of comparing cable news to his show he came up with the analogy which -- I may be the only person who thinks this but -- I think is not a great analogy. "One of my favorite things..Anderson Cooper, I

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: J. Stew sits with Rachel Maddow on just what the heck he meant

2010-11-13 Thread Kevin M.
I would agree, and go further to state that political parties (at least the two party system in place) hinders the process, as does any advocacy of it. I firmly believe that it no longer matters whether a Republican or Democrat wins a given election, because ultimately America will continue to lose

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: J. Stew sits with Rachel Maddow on just what the heck he meant

2010-11-13 Thread David Bruggeman
I think (emphasis on I think) what J. Stew was trying to do was argue that the focus of the cable channels on the horse race (who loses and who wins politically) was a problem, and not the most beneficial for the country. By shifting to something like the corruption/anti-corruption angle he bro

Re: [TV orNotTV] Amazon deal of the Day (Nov 13): Save 57% on Boxed Sets of "CSI," "CSI: Miami," and "CSI: New York"

2010-11-13 Thread Wesley McGee
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:51 AM, PGage wrote: > > Okay - that is a good point (by 10:00 pm Sunday night Sunday Night Football > is long over here). I can't remember what was on at 10:00 Sunday last year > on CBS (was it the FBI looking for Missing Persons show?), I should try to > find out and d

Re: [TV orNotTV] Amazon deal of the Day (Nov 13): Save 57% on Boxed Sets of "CSI," "CSI: Miami," and "CSI: New York"

2010-11-13 Thread PGage
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Tom Wolper wrote: > On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 7:21 PM, PGage wrote: > > > > I still watch LV (I think it has help up pretty well with the change in > > stars), but never got into NY and stopped watching Miami when H stopped > > taking off his sun glasses. I guess M

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: J. Stew sits with Rachel Maddow on just what the heck he meant

2010-11-13 Thread PGage
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Kevin M. wrote: > So Donz, you believe that MSNBC is nonpartisan and its hosts offer > nonbiased news and information? Because I don't think Stewart is > claiming MSNBC is like FoxNews, but the claim is they are not > producing journalism free of a political slant

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: J. Stew sits with Rachel Maddow on just what the heck he meant

2010-11-13 Thread Wesley McGee
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Kevin M. wrote: > [T]he claim is [MSNBC] are not > producing journalism free of a political slant, and the political > slant does more harm than good. At some point along the way, MSNBC > abandoned being a source of journalism in favor of being a showcase > for o

Re: [TV orNotTV] Amazon deal of the Day (Nov 13): Save 57% on Boxed Sets of "CSI," "CSI: Miami," and "CSI: New York"

2010-11-13 Thread Tom Wolper
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 7:21 PM, PGage wrote: > > I still watch LV (I think it has help up pretty well with the change in > stars), but never got into NY and stopped watching Miami when H stopped > taking off his sun glasses. I guess Miami got hammered in the move to > Sunday. Remember it's going

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: J. Stew sits with Rachel Maddow on just what the heck he meant

2010-11-13 Thread Kevin M.
So Donz, you believe that MSNBC is nonpartisan and its hosts offer nonbiased news and information? Because I don't think Stewart is claiming MSNBC is like FoxNews, but the claim is they are not producing journalism free of a political slant, and the political slant does more harm than good. At some

Re: [TV orNotTV] Amazon deal of the Day (Nov 13): Save 57% on Boxed Sets of "CSI," "CSI: Miami," and "CSI: New York"

2010-11-13 Thread PGage
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2010-11-13 Thread Tom Wolper
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[TV orNotTV] Re: J. Stew sits with Rachel Maddow on just what the heck he meant

2010-11-13 Thread donz5
Sorry, but the false equivalency lives on. Fox is known to have (1) doctored its clips to have them appear to express one thing when, in fact, they express the opposite; (2) morning chat morons who introduce myths that are then handled as "news" later in the day and night; and (3) employ known pote

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: J. Stew sits with Rachel Maddow on just what the heck he meant

2010-11-13 Thread Bradford
You've communicated exactly what I was trying to say better than I did. I don't think anybody on MSNBC's weeknight lineup would deny that they lean left (as opposed to the network's new asinine "lean forward" slogan) but none of them have come out and endorsed a candidate on the air. - Origi

[TV orNotTV] Re: J. Stew sits with Rachel Maddow on just what the heck he meant

2010-11-13 Thread K.M. Richards
A nitpick, if I may, Kevin. On Nov 12, 8:53 pm, "Kevin M." wrote: >And whereas Maddow stated neither she nor any other member of > MSNBC's news team has endorsed a candidate, Keith's recent newsmaking > revealed that to not be the truth. Strictly speaking, Keith did not endorse a candidate. The

Re: [TV orNotTV] J. Stew sits with Rachel Maddow on just what the heck he meant

2010-11-13 Thread Kevin M.
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Bradford wrote: > So money equals speech and speech equals endorsement and therefore giving > money > equals endorsement? Really? Even when nobody knows you gave that money? > > If you give a speech and nobody hears it, is it really a speech? (Except in > congress,

Re: [TV orNotTV] J. Stew sits with Rachel Maddow on just what the heck he meant

2010-11-13 Thread Bradford
So money equals speech and speech equals endorsement and therefore giving money equals endorsement? Really? Even when nobody knows you gave that money? If you give a speech and nobody hears it, is it really a speech? (Except in congress, of course.) - Original Message - From: "Kevin

Re: [TV orNotTV] J. Stew sits with Rachel Maddow on just what the heck he meant

2010-11-13 Thread Kevin M.
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Bradford wrote: > Olbermann did not "endorse" a candidate. He gave a donation to three > candidates > as a private citizen a few days before the election. He never mentioned it > on the air > nor did the candidates publicize his contribution in an effort to raise m

Re: [TV orNotTV] J. Stew sits with Rachel Maddow on just what the heck he meant

2010-11-13 Thread Bradford
Olbermann did not "endorse" a candidate. He gave a donation to three candidates as a private citizen a few days before the election. He never mentioned it on the air nor did the candidates publicize his contribution in an effort to raise more support or funds. Compared to Fox News hosts endorsin

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Semi-OT: Greg Proops has a podcast

2010-11-13 Thread Kevin M.
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 1:33 AM, Michael wrote: > Full disclosure: Greg is a longtime pal. My personal bias aside, I > think he's one of the wittiest, most nimble-minded comedians in the > biz, and his monthly live talk show at Largo in L.A. is a must-see > that's featured guest shots by the likes

[TV orNotTV] Re: Semi-OT: Greg Proops has a podcast

2010-11-13 Thread Michael
Full disclosure: Greg is a longtime pal. My personal bias aside, I think he's one of the wittiest, most nimble-minded comedians in the biz, and his monthly live talk show at Largo in L.A. is a must-see that's featured guest shots by the likes of Craig Ferguson, Foo Fighters' Dave Grohl, David Cross