But why is this a problem? People who choose not to view the contextual
material don’t have to watch it, those who do can. Perhaps HBO sticks a
minute or two of introduction onto the film a la AMC. The only price to be
paid is a month, maybe two or three, of no access to an 80 year led movie.
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 2:38 PM Joe Hass wrote:
> Disclaimer: I have never seen either Birth Of A Nation nor Gone With The
> Wind, nor do I have any plan to do so at this time.
>
Took me three tries to watch "Birth of a Nation." I fell asleep the first
two times.
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The problem with the didactic material is that they could include a forward
by, say, Donald Bogle (who's more or less the go-to guy on this sort of
thing), or even an informed panel, and how many people are going to skip
through it to get to Scarlett and George Reeves at that damned barbecue?
So, responding to each of Joe’s points:
1. My understanding is the HBO is working with recognized experts to
develop not just didactic material but informed conversation among them. I
applaud this approach, rather than punting to the Wikis. HBO is taking
their responsibility to contextualize this
Disclaimer: I have never seen either Birth Of A Nation nor Gone With The
Wind, nor do I have any plan to do so at this time. With that out of the
way, and returning briefly to the specific decision:
There was an earlier point made by PGage Wednesday night that the headline
was misleading, because
On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 5:40 AM 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> I've seen it two or three times (nearly getting into a fight the last time
> I saw it in a theatre) and, its racial politics aside, find it a lousy
> movie. It's bloated, all of the characters are
I've seen it two or three times (nearly getting into a fight the last time
I saw it in a theatre) and, its racial politics aside, find it a lousy
movie. It's bloated, all of the characters are static, ending up either
dead or exactly where they started psychologically, and the two male leads
From: 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com]
>Temporarily, the streamer told Variety, until a discussion about its
>historical context and a denouncement of its biased depictions can be offered
>with it.
Fun fact: Of the four white leads, only Clark Gable was
I posted over in the Tweety thingy that my late mother used to say that
Gone With The Wind wasn’t an especially good movie, but it sold well
because it was a long movie, which meant teenage movie-goers had more time
to make out in the balcony.
I remember getting the big special edition box of VHS
On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 9:46 AM Joe Hass wrote:
> It never ceases to amaze me how American corporations can be both smart
> and stupid at the exact same moment.
>
These corporate actions always look like "how do we drop this hot potato"
and not "how do we use our power to make the society we
It never ceases to amaze me how American corporations can be both smart and
stupid at the exact same moment.
On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 7:53 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> Temporarily, the streamer told Variety, until a discussion about its
> historical context
Temporarily, the streamer told Variety, until a discussion about its
historical context and a denouncement of its biased depictions can be
offered with it.
https://variety.com/2020/film/news/hbo-max-gone-with-the-wind-removed-1234629892/
(link)
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