[TV orNotTV] Re: Olby suspended indefinitely

2010-11-10 Thread K.M. Richards
Okay, Kevin. We get it. You don't like Keith Olbermann, Some of us do, however. I agree with Don that neither of the terms you suggest are applicable, because MSNBC was responsible for his becoming the center of attention by the way they handled this. I read Keith's statement to the New York

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Olby suspended indefinitely

2010-11-10 Thread Kevin M.
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 6:22 AM, K.M. Richards richard...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, Kevin.  We get it.  You don't like Keith Olbermann Respectfully, I do like Keith, which is why I am disappointed in him. -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Olby suspended indefinitely

2010-11-10 Thread Joe Hass
I am also in Kevin's camp: it's precisely because I know how good and smart he is that this entire thing is just a big 'ol letdown. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 6:22 AM, K.M. Richards richard...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, Kevin.  

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Olby suspended indefinitely

2010-11-10 Thread PGage
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 6:22 AM, K.M. Richards richard...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, Kevin. We get it. You don't like Keith Olbermann, Some of us do, however. I agree with Don that neither of the terms you suggest are applicable, because MSNBC was responsible for his becoming the center of

[TV orNotTV] Re: Olby suspended indefinitely

2010-11-09 Thread donz5
Big fan of Keith's, eh? Suspended Keith Olbermann Demanded MSNBC Apology, Will Return Tuesday http://www.popeater.com/2010/11/08/keith-olbermann-return-MSNBC/?icid=main%7Chtmlws-main-n%7Cdl2%7Csec3_lnk1%7C182920 On Nov 9, 4:13 am, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote: Wow. What a smarmy

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Olby suspended indefinitely

2010-11-09 Thread Kevin M.
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 8:36 AM, donz5 do...@aol.com wrote: Big fan of Keith's, eh? I agree with his point-of-view, but the way he chooses to express it does not help any of his causes. The battle between MSNBC and FoxNews is like the battle between Coke and Pepsi: Too much of either will give

[TV orNotTV] Re: Olby suspended indefinitely

2010-11-08 Thread JW
I think the heart of the the problem is that MSNBC doesn't have the balls to -be- a liberal network. I doubt that GE, or Comcast, or Disney, or anyone else who can afford it, is looking to present a really liberal network. Current and potential advertisers are unlikely to buy time on a program

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Olby suspended indefinitely

2010-11-07 Thread Wesley McGee
Off topic, but generally TNR refers to the similarly named but more liberal magazine The New Republic (URL: http://www.tnr.com ). National Review probably doesn't get referred to by its initials NR as much, though its online site is frequently referred to as NRO. On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 6:48 PM,

[TV orNotTV] Re: Olby suspended indefinitely

2010-11-07 Thread Dave Sikula
I think the heart of the the problem is that MSNBC doesn't have the balls to -be- a liberal network. Maddow and Schultz are liberals; Lawrence O'Donnell is a liberal moderate, and Olbermann is less liberal than he's anti-Bush, anti-Fox, and anti-Republican, but the rest of the lineup -- from Joe

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Olby suspended indefinitely

2010-11-07 Thread Wesley McGee
Huffington Post: SHORTEST SUSPENSION IN THE WORLDhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/07/keith-olbermann-to-return_n_780141.html . (He returns Tuesday). -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group.

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Olby suspended indefinitely

2010-11-07 Thread PGage
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Dave Sikula dsik...@yahoo.com wrote: I think the heart of the the problem is that MSNBC doesn't have the balls to -be- a liberal network. Maddow and Schultz are liberals; Lawrence O'Donnell is a liberal moderate, and Olbermann is less liberal than he's

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Olby suspended indefinitely

2010-11-07 Thread Wesley McGee
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 11:51 AM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Dave Sikula dsik...@yahoo.com wrote: I think the heart of the the problem is that MSNBC doesn't have the balls to -be- a liberal network. Maddow and Schultz are liberals; Lawrence O'Donnell is a

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Olby suspended indefinitely

2010-11-07 Thread PGage
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote: I think Keith is going to run headfirst into the problem of trying to be a biased journalist. He violated the rules of his news organization. Regardless of how or if he apologizes, his ethics very publicly clashed with

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Olby suspended indefinitely

2010-11-06 Thread Kevin M.
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Wesley McGee wesley.mc...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 3:08 PM, donz5 do...@aol.com wrote: August 2010: Sean Hannity contributes $5,000 to Michelle Bachmann. Not a peep from Fox New management. Well, Fox News has no restrictions against network

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Olby suspended indefinitely

2010-11-06 Thread PGage
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote: http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/11/05/5417114-on-cable-news-and-cable-not-news I posted most of this to Dave's Facebook when he linked to Rachel Maddow's response, but it seems to fit here, too. Rachel's

[TV orNotTV] Re: Olby suspended indefinitely

2010-11-05 Thread donz5
The revelations not yet spread from their initial sources: March 2006: Joe Scarborough contributes $4,200 to Oregon House Republican candidate Derrick Kitts. MSNBC's rationale for no penalty: Kitts is an old friend of Joe's. Joe hosts an opinion program and is not a news reporter.

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Olby suspended indefinitely

2010-11-05 Thread David Bruggeman
Well, NewsCorp contributed $1 million to a Republican group earlier this year. No way would they crack down on their staff for similar stuff. David From: donz5 do...@aol.com Subject: [TV orNotTV] Re: Olby suspended indefinitely The revelations not yet

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Olby suspended indefinitely

2010-11-05 Thread Wesley McGee
? Or is it that NewsCorp has been more one sided and generous in its donation. -- *From:* donz5 do...@aol.com ** *Subject:* [TV orNotTV] Re: Olby suspended indefinitely The revelations not yet spread from their initial sources: March 2006: Joe Scarborough contributes

[TV orNotTV] Re: Olby suspended indefinitely

2010-11-05 Thread donz5
Bill Kristol is on Keith's side: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/keep-keith_514980.html -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Olby suspended indefinitely

2010-11-05 Thread Wesley McGee
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 3:08 PM, donz5 do...@aol.com wrote: August 2010: Sean Hannity contributes $5,000 to Michelle Bachmann. Not a peep from Fox New management. Well, Fox News has no restrictions against network employees contributing money to political causes or campaigns. And according to

[TV orNotTV] Re: Olby suspended indefinitely

2010-11-05 Thread M-D November
Whoa. Those words will probably never appear in the same sentence again. On Nov 5, 4:26 pm, donz5 do...@aol.com wrote: Bill Kristol is on Keith's side: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/keep-keith_514980.html -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because

[TV orNotTV] Re: Olby suspended indefinitely

2010-11-05 Thread M-D November
WaPo's Plum Line blog now asking whether KO even violated any rules in the first place: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/11/did_olbermann_even_violate_nbc_1.html Highlight: Odder still, an anonymous NBC insider told Gawker that it's common knowledge within the organization that

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Olby suspended indefinitely

2010-11-05 Thread PGage
Here is what FAIR has to say. Without defending Olbermann, they raise some pretty good questions. If it is wrong for Olbermann to make political contributions, why is it okay for his corporate bosses (GE, Robert Wright, and Comcast) to make them? Why was it okay for Scarborough? Why is it okay for

[TV orNotTV] Re: Olby suspended indefinitely

2010-11-05 Thread donz5
On Nov 5, 5:31 pm, M-D November mdnovem...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] (I'm lumping Hayes in here as well, since he's been pulled as KO's replacement for violating the same 'rules')... [snip] Word from Twitter is that Chris Hayes declined to sub for KO tonight!!

[TV orNotTV] Re: Olby suspended indefinitely

2010-11-05 Thread donz5
National Review Online also comes down in Keith's favor: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Olby suspended indefinitely

2010-11-05 Thread Joe Hass
TNR discounts the NBC thinks Olbermann is a news man idea. I completely disagree. I think they consider him their *lead* newscaster on that channel. That being said: he has a slant, and it's not as though they have a vision of him someday replacing Brian Williams. But I can completely believe