I came across this old fashioned thing called a newspaper, that has
something they used to call reporting in it, about how Obama came to
his War Plan (though of course I did read it online, and you can to
at:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/06/world/asia/06reconstruct.html?_r=1&sudsredirect=true&
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Kevin M. wrote:
> My view not withstanding, I believe his explanation is incomplete. It
> is akin to Bush saying (and I'm paraphrasing) that we needed to go to
> Iraq before Iraq came to us. President Obama is making these
> assumptions based on what? At least Bush
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:33 PM, PGage wrote:
> Ah, I see now you just mean that you do not believe that military
> action in Afghanistan will reduce the threat posed by Al Queda. Fair
> enough I suppose (I think that is a minority view, and an incorrect
> one, but it is an important one and worth
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Kevin M. wrote:
> Al Queda can plan their attacks from the parking lot of the Starbucks
> a block from my house (I'm not unconvinced they don't... some
> nefarious people frequent that Starbucks). Kick 'em out of
> Afghanistan, they move to Pakistan. Kick 'em out of
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 7:00 PM, PGage wrote:
> First I refer both Kevin and everyone else to the transcript of the
> President's speech
> (http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/12/01/obama.afghanistan.speech.transcript/index.html),
> which will answer some of the questions Kevin raises.
Well, I was ju
I am going to try to respond to a number of different comments made by
Kevin in this thread (I was time shifting the speech about 20 minutes
and so was not following along with Kevin in real time).
First I refer both Kevin and everyone else to the transcript of the
President's speech
(http://www.c
"When this war began, we were united." Speak for yourself, jackass.
Personally, I was hoping for a military coup during the speech.
I came in under the wire on a few of my predictions.
The final tally:
Number of promises made that he has no intention of keeping = 5 (prediction: 8)
Number of time
He quoted Eisenhower... odd choice. He eluded to Roosevelt.
I can't help but notice that the President didn't feel the need to
explain WHY we need to be in Afghanistan. He says we need to be there,
and he expects that to be reason enough.
Number of promises made that he has no intention of kee
Cutaway shot of H. Clinton literally wringing her hands. Amusing.
Obama just spoke directly to the Afghan people. He knows most of the
nation's population live in huts and caves with no electricity or
running water, right? He knows they couldn't possibly be watching CNN.
Three parts to the plan:
He snuck in the phrase "... and Pakistan" twice in one minute in
reference to troop deployment. Subtle.
Number of promises made that he has no intention of keeping = 2 (prediction: 8)
Number of times he used phrases like "I listen to my generals" = 1
(prediction: 3)
Number of times he used phra
Here's the running scorecard... follow along at home:
Number of promises made that he has no intention of keeping = (prediction: 8)
Number of times he used phrases like "I listen to my generals" = (prediction: 3)
Number of times he used phrases like "My generals listen to me" =
(prediction: 0)
Num
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