Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On 12:23 pm, m-li...@the-moon.net wrote: >On 5 July 2011 08:31, Wolfgang wrote: >>just to note. If a move is preferred I give >>+1 for bitbucket (mercurial) > >I thought it might be worth noting that CherryPy have recently >migrated their website from Trac to Bitbucket > >* https://groups.google.c

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On 5 July 2011 08:31, Wolfgang wrote: > just to note. If a move is preferred I give > +1 for bitbucket (mercurial) I thought it might be worth noting that CherryPy have recently migrated their website from Trac to Bitbucket * https://groups.google.com/group/cherrypy-users/browse_thread/thread/

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

Hi, I actually have contributed a few small patches to Twisted. I've attempted to contribute a few more which never made it in. I intend to contribute more in the future. I prefer launchpad over github because of its issue tracker, especially the ability to crosslink issues which affect more than

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 5:35 AM, Laurens Van Houtven <_...@lvh.cc> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:19 AM, Kevin Horn wrote: > >> Also, Git _is_ worse on Windows than it is on *nix. It's just not as bad >> as it _used_ to be. It's functional. It works. But it is difficult to >> deal with, >>

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:19 AM, Kevin Horn wrote: > Also, Git _is_ worse on Windows than it is on *nix. It's just not as bad > as it _used_ to be. It's functional. It works. But it is difficult to > deal with, > and a lot of Windows users I have talked to (as well as myself, of course) > jus

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 10:15:09PM -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 5:02 AM, Alessandro Dentella wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 03:42:04AM -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: > >> re: Mercurial, I didn't like it when I used it. If someone can tell me > >> how to do this[3]

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On 07/06/2011 07:19 AM, Kevin Horn wrote: > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 5:31 AM, Laurens Van Houtven <_...@lvh.cc> wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 12:22 PM, David > wrote: > > Most people who stay on windows do not find cygwin or even CLI > tools

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 5:02 AM, Alessandro Dentella wrote: > On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 03:42:04AM -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: >> re: Mercurial, I didn't like it when I used it. If someone can tell me >> how to do this[3] in hg, I'd be more inclined to play along. And that > > I do this sort of t

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Ivan Kozik wrote: > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 22:19, Kevin Horn wrote: > > Git requires bash. This makes it painful for me (on Windows). > > In what sense? You can run git from cmd.exe, without having to deal > with bash. (You're not required to use 'Git Bash'.) >

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 22:19, Kevin Horn wrote: > Git requires bash.  This makes it painful for me (on Windows). In what sense? You can run git from cmd.exe, without having to deal with bash. (You're not required to use 'Git Bash'.) > Also, Git _is_ worse on Windows than it is on *nix.  It's ju

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 5:31 AM, Laurens Van Houtven <_...@lvh.cc> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 12:22 PM, David wrote: > >> Most people who stay on windows do not find cygwin or even CLI tools an >> acceptable solution. >> > > So, the argument isn't that git is worse on Windows than it is on *n

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 12:22 PM, David wrote: > Most people who stay on windows do not find cygwin or even CLI tools an > acceptable solution. > So, the argument isn't that git is worse on Windows than it is on *nix: it's just that Windows users don't want to use CLI tools? > cheers, > David >

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On 07/05/2011 06:05 PM, Orestis Markou wrote: > On 5 Jul 2011, at 10:31, Wolfgang wrote: >> If you ever want someone contributing under Windows, github with git is not a >> good solution. For Windows there are good clients for mercurial and bazzar. >> Git is more a Unix only solution. > > I have no

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Orestis Markou wrote: > Finally, for what it's worth, for me as a potential contributor to Twisted > (I still want to help with documentation) SVN is a much bigger barrier of > entry than Trac. Even an official git mirror (complete with branches) that I > could wo

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Wolfgang wrote: > Hi, > > If you ever want someone contributing under Windows, github with git is not > a > good solution. > Why not? I know the reasons three years ago (and most of them were either permissions or performance), but I have been assured multiple tim

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On 5 Jul 2011, at 10:31, Wolfgang wrote: > If you ever want someone contributing under Windows, github with git is not a > good solution. For Windows there are good clients for mercurial and bazzar. > Git is more a Unix only solution. I have no vote on the whole moving off SVN, but as a former win

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 03:42:04AM -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: > re: Mercurial, I didn't like it when I used it. If someone can tell me > how to do this[3] in hg, I'd be more inclined to play along. And that I do this sort of things using mercurial queues. I pile up patches in a queue and can

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

Pretty much all of those can be supported with GitHub: they can POST to a generic website as a commit hook[0], along with a number of other integrated services[1]. The only thing that I can think of is that GitHub issues doesn't have hooks, so we'd have to poll if we wanted an IRC bot for GitHub i

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

Hi, just to note. If a move is preferred I give +1 for bitbucket (mercurial) If you ever want someone contributing under Windows, github with git is not a good solution. For Windows there are good clients for mercurial and bazzar. Git is more a Unix only solution. Launchpad has a horrible and un

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 09:41:12AM +0300, anatoly techtonik wrote: > To know if Github is terrible or not, you need some data - examples, > use cases. The first step in planning is to look at the current > workflow and gather a list of ways current Trac+SVN is used and see > where Github has advant

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Laurens Van Houtven <_...@lvh.cc> wrote: > > As some of you may already know (either through a backchannel or because you > talked to me at Europython), there has been some talk about moving Twisted > way from Trac+SVN to somewhere that isn't Trac+SVN. There are alw

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

Michael Thompson wrote: [...] > Small, documentation diffs, for instance can be reduced to a single > click for a core developer to merge the change to trunk. I doubt that single click writes a NEWS file, or tests that the diff as applied to current trunk builds cleanly on a buildslave. So this m

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Jul 2, 2011 10:28 p.m., "Glyph Lefkowitz" wrote: > > > On Jul 2, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Michael Thompson wrote: > >> On 1 July 2011 18:38, Glyph Lefkowitz wrote: > > >> I think github means less effort for the reviewer because they can >> review commits, rather than a large diff. They can review ch

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 11:27 PM, Glyph Lefkowitz wrote: > > They can have a tool to make comments next to the code and it is less > effort to apply patches and update branches to HEAD. > > > This would be nice. Is it easy for the reviewee to look at all the > comments in an ordered list? > > Depen

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Jul 2, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Michael Thompson wrote: > On 1 July 2011 18:38, Glyph Lefkowitz wrote: > I think github means less effort for the reviewer because they can > review commits, rather than a large diff. They can review changes > following a review. I already review diffs this way, wit

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On 1 July 2011 18:38, Glyph Lefkowitz wrote: > As Itamar has already suggested, I think that this is a solution in search > of a problem.  Aside from occasionally saving a contributor the trouble of > typing 'review' in the keywords field every so often, what is this actually > going to accomplish

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

What data do you care about? Wikis and code are in git repositories, and they have a very exhaustive API[0] for pretty much everything else. On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 12:53 AM, Mikhail Terekhov wrote: > On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 8:14 AM, Itamar Turner-Trauring > wrote: >> >> Unless I'm mistaken, Githu

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 8:14 AM, Itamar Turner-Trauring wrote: > Unless I'm mistaken, Github is a proprietary system, which means I'm > unhappy about hosting our project there. At the minimum I'd want a very > good story about how we can get all our data out if we need to. And even > then I'd proba

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

> > I did not say contributing shouldn't be easier; I said getting more > contributions is pointless (and annoying to contributors!) if we can't > manage to get them incorporated into trunk. If DVCS will make code easier > to incorporate, by encouraging contributors to iterate on patches, then we >

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

> Twisted has a very polite club-like culture where some are on the inside, > most aren't and it's clear where on that line anyone is. Submitting to the > pain of the current submission tools almost seems viewed as a kind of > worthwhile hazing to weed out the unworthy. A lot of the resistance to

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Laurens Van Houtven <_...@lvh.cc> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Kevin Horn wrote: > > >> * Git is annoying. It's a pretty horrible piece of software in my >>opinion, and made some bad design decisions. >> > > magit makes it a lot more pleasant if y

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Kevin Horn wrote: > * Does Github's ticketing system have the kind of integration with Git >that Twisted has built for Trac+SVN? Bitbucket has some similar stuff, >so I would be surprised if Github didn't, but I just don't know. > Stuff like refs/closes

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

> Although, the other questions raised in this thread, about what parts of our > workflow are problematic, are worth talking about separately. Moving from a manual patch-based process to a DVCS where branching is cheap and the workflow can be moved to push/pull would be a huge step in the right

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Laurens Van Houtven <_...@lvh.cc> wrote: > Hi, > > > As some of you may already know (either through a backchannel or because > you talked to me at Europython), there has been some talk about moving > Twisted way from Trac+SVN to somewhere that isn't Trac+SVN. > > A

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Jul 1, 2011, at 6:29 AM, Laurens Van Houtven wrote: > As some of you may already know (either through a backchannel or because you > talked to me at Europython), there has been some talk about moving Twisted > way from Trac+SVN to somewhere that isn't Trac+SVN. > > A lot of the devs do like

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Thomas Hervé wrote: > Le 01/07/2011 16:42, Itamar Turner-Trauring a écrit : > >> Well, that logic is a bit flawed though: you're kind of saying that we > >> shouldn't use a better tool because it may bring us more contributors > >> than we can handle. At the end of

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On 01/07/11 11:29, Laurens Van Houtven wrote: > Hi, > > > As some of you may already know (either through a backchannel or because > you talked to me at Europython), there has been some talk about moving > Twisted way from Trac+SVN to somewhere that isn't Trac+SVN. > > A lot of the devs do like SVN

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Christopher Armstrong wrote: > On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Laurens Van Houtven <_...@lvh.cc> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> > > First, I encourage everyone to take a look at (and > update) http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/wiki/WorkflowRequirements > It was created a while bac

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Jul 1, 2011, at 7:44, Itamar Turner-Trauring wrote: > I'm not sure getting more patches should be our main goal, for now. > (It's a good *long term* goal!). > We have a large number of uncommitted third-party patches in tickets. 2 of those are mine. They're almost to the point of being acce

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Laurens Van Houtven <_...@lvh.cc> wrote: > Hi, > > First, I encourage everyone to take a look at (and update) http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/wiki/WorkflowRequirements It was created a while back and hasn't been updated in a long time. Second: > >1. Launchpad

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

Le 01/07/2011 16:42, Itamar Turner-Trauring a écrit : >> Well, that logic is a bit flawed though: you're kind of saying that we >> shouldn't use a better tool because it may bring us more contributors >> than we can handle. At the end of the day, we would still use a better >> tool though. > > No,

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

Itamar makes an excellent point. That probably is one of the worst problems we have right now. and it definitely needs to be addressed. Figuring out how code could end up not-in-the-attic sounds like part of the transition plan to me. I do, in fact, think Github means patches are less likely to be

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

If the patch applies cleanly, pull requests can even be merged without involving git directly at all, from the Github web UI. cheers lvh ___ Twisted-Python mailing list Twisted-Python@twistedmatrix.com http://twistedmatrix.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tw

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

Hi all, On Fri, 2011-07-01 at 12:00 +0100, Reza Lotun wrote: > On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Laurens Van Houtven <_...@lvh.cc> wrote: > Although I've hated git for a long while (and I still don't > like it very much), I firmly believe Github is the right thing > for Twis

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

> Well, that logic is a bit flawed though: you're kind of saying that we > shouldn't use a better tool because it may bring us more contributors > than we can handle. At the end of the day, we would still use a better > tool though. No, I'm saying that given limited resources, addressing the giant

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

Le 01/07/2011 15:44, Itamar Turner-Trauring a écrit : > On Fri, 2011-07-01 at 15:23 +0200, Laurens Van Houtven wrote: > > >> Well, part of the hypothesis of the effects of moving to Github is >> that a) the clear separation between "core contributor" and "random >> contributor" because a bit more

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Thomas Hervé wrote: ... > One thing that concerns me is that Trac supposedly supports bzr, and we > tried to use bzr, but never made the move completely. Why do you think > it will change? Is it just that we didn't take any decisions? Or that > nobody stepped up? >

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Laurens Van Houtven <_...@lvh.cc> wrote: ... > Well, part of the hypothesis of the effects of moving to Github is that a) > the clear separation between "core contributor" and "random contributor" > because a bit more subtle, b) it becomes easier for external contri

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

This, I believe, is the real problem -- tickets which were reviewed but never closed: http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/report/16 That is a very sad list. ___ Twisted-Python mailing list Twisted-Python@twistedmatrix.com http://twistedmatrix.com/cgi-bin/ma

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Fri, 2011-07-01 at 15:23 +0200, Laurens Van Houtven wrote: > Well, part of the hypothesis of the effects of moving to Github is > that a) the clear separation between "core contributor" and "random > contributor" because a bit more subtle, b) it becomes easier for > external contributors to co

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

+1 for github. The user experience of bitbucket and LP is secondary compared to github. ___ Twisted-Python mailing list Twisted-Python@twistedmatrix.com http://twistedmatrix.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twisted-python

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Thomas Hervé wrote: > Well, even not thinking about new developers, a DVCS will make the life > of current ones easier. Even though we can start to use bzr, it's a bit > clumsy IMHO. > Also, apparently there are ways of using bzr-svn that confuse the hell out of C

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Jonathan Lange wrote: > On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Laurens Van Houtven <_...@lvh.cc> wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Jonathan Lange wrote: > ... > >> * Launchpad is open source & therefore patchable > > > > Yes, that's a good point. I like that i

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

Le 01/07/2011 14:14, Itamar Turner-Trauring a écrit : > On Fri, 2011-07-01 at 12:29 +0200, Laurens Van Houtven wrote: > >> Unless someone is going to go all "NO GITHUB IS TERRIBLE AND YOU ARE A >> BAD PERSON FOR EVEN SUGGESTING IT" on me, maybe we can talk about >> planning the transition? :) > >

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Laurens Van Houtven <_...@lvh.cc> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Jonathan Lange wrote: ... >>  * Launchpad is open source & therefore patchable > > Yes, that's a good point. I like that it's open source (although it has an > unfortunate license). Is the p

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Jonathan Lange wrote: > I support Twisted moving to a DVCS and to something better than Trac. > I personally would prefer Twisted to use Launchpad. > > Some points: > * Launchpad is much faster now that it was six months ago > Launchpad's definitely getting fast

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Itamar Turner-Trauring wrote: > On Fri, 2011-07-01 at 12:29 +0200, Laurens Van Houtven wrote: > > > Unless someone is going to go all "NO GITHUB IS TERRIBLE AND YOU ARE A > > BAD PERSON FOR EVEN SUGGESTING IT" on me, maybe we can talk about > > planning the transiti

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

Hi, On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Itamar Turner-Trauring wrote: > > Unless I'm mistaken, Github is a proprietary system, which means I'm > unhappy about hosting our project there. At the minimum I'd want a very > good story about how we can get all our data out if we need to. And even > then I'd

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Thomas Hervé wrote: ... > Thanks for pushing this. Personally, I would prefer Launchpad and Bzr, > but we've been thinking about using it for the past 3 years, and nothing > really happened. What I really care about is that we move away from Trac > (for bugs at lea

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Fri, 2011-07-01 at 12:29 +0200, Laurens Van Houtven wrote: > Unless someone is going to go all "NO GITHUB IS TERRIBLE AND YOU ARE A > BAD PERSON FOR EVEN SUGGESTING IT" on me, maybe we can talk about > planning the transition? :) Unless I'm mistaken, Github is a proprietary system, which means

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Laurens Van Houtven <_...@lvh.cc> wrote: > Is the reason you would prefer bitbucket over github related to bitbucket > and github, or git and hg? The latter. Launchpad+bzr is at the top of my list because of Launchpad; Bitbucket+hg ranks over Github+git because of

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

Le 01/07/2011 12:29, Laurens Van Houtven a écrit : > Hi, > > > As some of you may already know (either through a backchannel or because you > talked to me at Europython), there has been some talk about moving Twisted > way from Trac+SVN to somewhere that isn't Trac+SVN. > > A lot of the devs do

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On 1 July 2011 14:01, Tim Allen wrote: > On Fri, Jul 01, 2011 at 12:48:37PM +0200, Tristan Seligmann wrote: >> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Laurens Van Houtven <_...@lvh.cc> wrote: >> > Although I've hated git for a long while (and I still don't like it very >> > much), I firmly believe Github

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Tim Allen wrote: > On the other hand, using git would probably complicate the build/review > process: since Github repositories are (as far as I know) owned by > individuals, you might not be able to set up access for multiple people, > and hence the current schem

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Fri, Jul 01, 2011 at 12:48:37PM +0200, Tristan Seligmann wrote: > On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Laurens Van Houtven <_...@lvh.cc> wrote: > > Although I've hated git for a long while (and I still don't like it very > > much), I firmly believe Github is the right thing for Twisted. My incredibl

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Fri, Jul 01, 2011 at 12:29:01PM +0200, Laurens Van Houtven wrote: > There's a few existing hosting solutions: > >1. Launchpad (+ Bazaar as the default vcs) >2. Bitbucket (+ Mercurial as the default vcs) >3. Github (+ Git as the default vcs) As a very-occasional Twisted contributor

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

Hi, On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Laurens Van Houtven <_...@lvh.cc> wrote: > Although I've hated git for a long while (and I still don't like it very > much), I firmly believe Github is the right thing for Twisted. My incredibly > unscientific poll amongst people who like Twisted but aren't de

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Tristan Seligmann wrote: > I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "aren't devs". Do you mean > "aren't Twisted developers"? I don't see why someone who isn't a > developer would particularly care what development tools Twisted uses. > Yes, this is what I mean

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Laurens Van Houtven <_...@lvh.cc> wrote: > Although I've hated git for a long while (and I still don't like it very > much), I firmly believe Github is the right thing for Twisted. My incredibly > unscientific poll amongst people who like Twisted but aren't devs is

Re: [Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Laurens Van Houtven <_...@lvh.cc> wrote: ... > Although I've hated git for a long while (and I still don't like it very > much), I firmly believe Github is the right thing for Twisted. My incredibly > unscientific poll amongst people who like Twisted but aren't devs

[Twisted-Python] Moving Twisted off Trac and SVN to somewhere nicer

Hi, As some of you may already know (either through a backchannel or because you talked to me at Europython), there has been some talk about moving Twisted way from Trac+SVN to somewhere that isn't Trac+SVN. A lot of the devs do like SVN. My guess is that that's mainly because they don't actuall