[twitter-dev] Re: Which services use twitter username and password as account identifier

2009-03-02 Thread Burhan TANWEER
Hi Paul, I have developed a social search engine ExploreWWW and would like to encourgae twitter user to submit their website to ExploreWWW and it will be unploaded in twitter with their account. I have been using twitter account to do that. Now I am not sure how to consolidate user authentication

[twitter-dev] Re: Which services use twitter username and password as account identifier

2009-03-02 Thread Daniel Sims
Or, do both. Allow them to login via OAuth, and then let them create an account later to avoid future round-trips (or to associate multiple twitter accounts) This is what http://feedflix.com does with the Netflix OAuth API. On Mar 1, 6:18 pm, Paul Kinlan paul.kin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Sam, I

[twitter-dev] Re: Which services use twitter username and password as account identifier

2009-03-01 Thread Petermdenton
Say I'm twitpic, does OAuth mean a user is going to have to make that awkward round trip to sign up? And does recurring login mean apps are going to have to store credentials? I'm just curious. On Mar 1, 2009, at 6:19 AM, Paul Kinlan paul.kin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am still

[twitter-dev] Re: Which services use twitter username and password as account identifier

2009-03-01 Thread Paul Kinlan
Hi, With oauth you have to make the round trip but I think it works quite well. What I don't think is going to work well is we will all need to develop an account managment system with new passwords etc and also prompt existing user to now assign a password to their account (which

[twitter-dev] Re: Which services use twitter username and password as account identifier

2009-03-01 Thread Dossy Shiobara
On 3/1/09 9:19 AM, Paul Kinlan wrote: I look forward to hearing back and seeing a list of all the services in the ecosystem that use twitter credentials as account authentication and validation so that it is clear the how prevelant the problem will be. It should be a non-problem. Application

[twitter-dev] Re: Which services use twitter username and password as account identifier

2009-03-01 Thread Petermdenton
Dossy, serioulsy, no one is saying the sky is falling. This list is for application developers to discuss development topics as they please. You may know everything, but for those of us who wish to discuss Sent from my iPhone On Mar 1, 2009, at 10:19 AM, Dossy Shiobara do...@panoptic.com

[twitter-dev] Re: Which services use twitter username and password as account identifier

2009-03-01 Thread Dossy Shiobara
On 3/1/09 1:28 PM, Petermdenton wrote: Dossy, serioulsy, no one is saying the sky is falling. This list is for application developers to discuss development topics as they please. You may know everything, but for those of us who wish to discuss We need to resist spreading FUD. Twitter has

[twitter-dev] Re: Which services use twitter username and password as account identifier

2009-03-01 Thread Chad Etzel
This is an issue that concerns me as well, so thank you, Paul, for bringing it up on this list. I do not consider if FUD. This is something that at least a few of us would like to discuss. If it doesn't pertain to you, then fine. My example would be TweetGrid. Right now, it is entirely a

[twitter-dev] Re: Which services use twitter username and password as account identifier

2009-03-01 Thread Paul Kinlan
Thanks Chad, that is what I am trying to get across, we will definitely need to drastically alter our workflows. I am definitely not trying to spread FUD, the problem is there is definitely uncertainty about the process as a whole which I would like us all to talk about and ways to work with

[twitter-dev] Re: Which services use twitter username and password as account identifier

2009-03-01 Thread Chad Etzel
On a similar note (also brought up in a different thread I think) are the so-called bot accounts that many of us run for whatever reason. Now they will have to use OAuth to post instead of basic auth through things like curl. So, as the OP of that thread suggested, we'll have to create dummy

[twitter-dev] Re: Which services use twitter username and password as account identifier

2009-03-01 Thread Nick Arnett
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Paul Kinlan paul.kin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Chad, that is what I am trying to get across, we will definitely need to drastically alter our workflows. I am definitely not trying to spread FUD, the problem is there is definitely uncertainty about the

[twitter-dev] Re: Which services use twitter username and password as account identifier

2009-03-01 Thread Paul Kinlan
I tend to agree, however lots of services are really only about working with Twitter, for instance I don't really want to make twollo work on any other service other than twitter. When you are linking to lots of other sites your points are perfectly valid :) One thing I have noticed is that in

[twitter-dev] Re: Which services use twitter username and password as account identifier

2009-03-01 Thread Nick Arnett
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Paul Kinlan paul.kin...@gmail.com wrote: One thing I have noticed is that in tweet# api the twitter id is marked as obsolete, so that is why I have not used it The thing is, if you use the twitter id, you need to always call twitter again when someone

[twitter-dev] Re: Which services use twitter username and password as account identifier

2009-03-01 Thread Dossy Shiobara
On 3/1/09 2:22 PM, Chad Etzel wrote: So, if someone wants to use 4 or 5 accounts at once they'd make 4 or 5 authentication trips to twitter and back. Sure, once per OAuth token lifetime. If Twitter implements OAuth correctly, it's supposed to work like this: User Sue uses third-pary

[twitter-dev] Re: Which services use twitter username and password as account identifier

2009-03-01 Thread Chad Etzel
Dude, I think it is you who needs to chill... srsly. I love the bomb. I've wanted the bomb for a long time, a lot of us have. Having an open discussion on an interesting topic does not mean we are all running around like chickens with our heads cut off. Without this thread I may never have

[twitter-dev] Re: Which services use twitter username and password as account identifier

2009-03-01 Thread Dossy Shiobara
On 3/1/09 3:41 PM, Chad Etzel wrote: Whether you meant to or not, you may have actually contributed positively to this thread :) I always intend to, even if it hurts. You know how people say, It can't hurt to ask? I wish it did ... :-) -- Dossy Shiobara | do...@panoptic.com |

[twitter-dev] Re: Which services use twitter username and password as account identifier

2009-03-01 Thread Paul Kinlan
I don't follow what you wrote about Twitter ID being obsolete. Where does it say that? If it is obsolete, Twitter needs to get rid of the users' ability to change their user names. It is the .Net Client that says that, I presuming it is a bug in that. That is why I have not used the ID but

[twitter-dev] Re: Which services use twitter username and password as account identifier

2009-03-01 Thread Paul Kinlan
I think it was one of my threads. I think it was along the lines of you can store the access key in cookie, but why you would want to publish the fact you are doing it. The thing being that the access token when used in a request is accompanied by a signature that can only be generated if the

[twitter-dev] Re: Which services use twitter username and password as account identifier

2009-03-01 Thread Sam K Sethi
Hi Paul As you know we already have a working version of Twitters OAuth on a test site http://ouath.twitblogs.com and will integrate into our live site when twitter let us. The way we are looking to overcome the user login issue is to use JainRain's www.rpxnow.com and associate a users ID to

[twitter-dev] Re: Which services use twitter username and password as account identifier

2009-03-01 Thread Paul Kinlan
Hi Sam, I think most things other than a basic username and password will confuse most people, which is why asking for their twitter username and password is done (rightly or wrongly) because people know it, use it all the time on twitter and don't have to remember yet another password. I will

[twitter-dev] Re: Which services use twitter username and password as account identifier

2009-03-01 Thread Sam K Sethi
Hi I wonder if there is any value in twitter supporting the openid/oauth hybrid extension http://googledataapis.blogspot.com/2009/01/bringing-openid-and-oauth-together.html This would allow us 3rd party developers to create a login mechanism for our own sites but wrap the Authentication and

[twitter-dev] Re: Which services use twitter username and password as account identifier

2009-03-01 Thread Abraham Williams
http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk/browse_thread/thread/98def90952bdab9c On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 17:57, Sam K Sethi samkse...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi I wonder if there is any value in twitter supporting the openid/oauth hybrid extension