[twitter-dev] Re: the new retweet feature might break my app

2009-12-03 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
On Dec 2, 7:36 pm, John Kalucki wrote: > This is documented, supported and subject to as much change or stasis as any > other Twitter feature. > > The entire tweet is given to avoid an extra round-trip in rendering > timelines. Many our results are denormalized in this way, as a fully > normaliz

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: the new retweet feature might break my app

2009-12-02 Thread John Kalucki
This is documented, supported and subject to as much change or stasis as any other Twitter feature. The entire tweet is given to avoid an extra round-trip in rendering timelines. Many our results are denormalized in this way, as a fully normalized schema delivered via an Internet service would be

[twitter-dev] Re: the new retweet feature might break my app

2009-12-02 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
I've been looking at data acquired from the "sample" feed. In those tweets, I've discovered something, and I wanted to run it by Twitter and see if this is an official, documented API feature. When a tweet is a retweet using the retweet button on the web page, there is an extra key-value pair in a

[twitter-dev] Re: the new retweet feature might break my app

2009-11-13 Thread stephane
Thing is the new RT api simply does not express the same thing the classic RT @xxx is : It's a subset of a big set of meanings : [ "Like" , "Forward" , "Comment", "Thanks", "Emphasis", "Reply" ] (and I'm sure there are a lot more uses) The rich semantic of classic RTs make them sometime difficult

[twitter-dev] Re: the new retweet feature might break my app

2009-11-13 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> > Speaking for TTYtter only, while I'll support receiving retweets, I am > > unhappy with the API as it currently exists and retweets received will > > be canonized into the older format (and retweets sent will be done > > programmatically in the older fashion instead of through the retweet > >

[twitter-dev] Re: the new retweet feature might break my app

2009-11-13 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> Does twitter have plans to prevent status messages (just like they > prevent duplicates) that use the old retweet format and in effect, > force applications to upgrade to using the retweet api? Ignoring how steamed people would be if that happened, I doubt it, because there are plenty of ways t

[twitter-dev] Re: the new retweet feature might break my app

2009-11-13 Thread cadams500
> I am unhappy with the API as it currently exists and retweets received will > be canonized into the older format (and retweets sent will be done > programmatically in the older fashion instead of through the retweet > methods). I suspect there are other app authors who will also do something > s

[twitter-dev] Re: the new retweet feature might break my app

2009-11-13 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 08:00:56AM -0800, Cameron Kaiser wrote: > Speaking for TTYtter only, while I'll support receiving retweets, I am > unhappy with the API as it currently exists and retweets received will > be canonized into the older format (and retweets sent will be done > programmatically

[twitter-dev] Re: the new retweet feature might break my app

2009-11-12 Thread John Kalucki
I think I've added to the confusion. Sorry about making things worse. I was coming from a strictly search viewpoint. But Retweet is not so simple! There are lots of different places that Tweets are rendered: Various timelines, Search, Streaming, SMS, etc. etc. Various renderings and search mechan

[twitter-dev] Re: the new retweet feature might break my app

2009-11-12 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> My concern is that there is nothing to force users to upgrade their > twitter applications, there is nothing to force applications to use > the retweet API (although, I agree most probably will) and for an > indeterminate amount of time users will still "retweet" by prefixing > their tweets with

[twitter-dev] Re: the new retweet feature might break my app

2009-11-12 Thread cadams500
> Change breaks both expectations and code. It is inevitable. I agree with this statement. However, there seems to be some confusion over whether retweets will still be prefixed with RT. If retweets are no longer prefixed with RT, then I do not understand why that change is being made. You could d

[twitter-dev] Re: the new retweet feature might break my app

2009-11-12 Thread John Kalucki
The Retweet feature has many possible realizations. We've tried nearly every possible combination of all the functional dimensions as the feature evolved over many months. It's possible that what you saw was based on a snapshot of the current state of the feature, and the feature subsequently chan

[twitter-dev] Re: the new retweet feature might break my app

2009-11-12 Thread Walter Smulders
In the examples that are shown in the developers preview for the RT api these where prefixed with RT, was this done on purpose or did this change after the examples where made public? On Nov 11, 6:48 pm, John Kalucki wrote: > Search is aware of the need for a retweet operator, but the feature is

[twitter-dev] Re: the new retweet feature might break my app

2009-11-11 Thread John Kalucki
Search is aware of the need for a retweet operator, but the feature is unscheduled and completely speculative. In any case, Search will become less useful for this sort of repetitive complete corpus search. If you need all of something, or a sample of something, you should be moving to the Stream

[twitter-dev] Re: the new retweet feature might break my app

2009-11-11 Thread Yaniv Golan
Thanks John, this means that my app won't work anymore! streaming api makes my life very hard hence i need to search for links and then extract them, this is very resource demanding to do on the fly while with search API i can search then extract and then search again i could use queue system but

[twitter-dev] Re: the new retweet feature might break my app

2009-11-11 Thread John Kalucki
Retweets do not modify the original text in any way. There is no RT to search upon. There is a feed of all public retweets on the Streaming API, but it is not generally available. Instead, you can request a sample of all statuses and filter for those that are retweets. -John Kalucki http://twitt

[twitter-dev] Re: the new retweet feature might break my app

2009-11-11 Thread Yaniv Golan
and now i hear from someone who already has the new RT that statuses aren't prefixed! so are they or aren't they prefixed? I'd love to get formal answer or reference to formal info on this On Nov 11, 6:58 pm, Yaniv Golan wrote: > oh... > that's cool :) > Thanks i really got wםrried for a sec >

[twitter-dev] Re: the new retweet feature might break my app

2009-11-11 Thread Yaniv Golan
oh... that's cool :) Thanks i really got wםrried for a sec On Nov 11, 5:08 pm, Walter Smulders wrote: > With the retweet function the status text will still be prefixed with > RT > > On Nov 11, 11:59 am, Yaniv Golan wrote: > > > Hi > > I'm using twitter search API to search statuses with retwee

[twitter-dev] Re: the new retweet feature might break my app

2009-11-11 Thread Walter Smulders
With the retweet function the status text will still be prefixed with RT On Nov 11, 11:59 am, Yaniv Golan wrote: > Hi > I'm using twitter search API to search statuses with retweet > expressions (e.g RT VIA) with the link filter > i search the documentation over and over but i can't find any sol