Re: [U2] SLEEP (until some specific time)

2007-05-13 Thread Dave Taylor
Mark, Ofcourse! That's thinking outside the box. Thank you. Dave Dave Taylor CEO Sysmark Information Systems, Inc. 49 Aspen Way Rolling Hills Estates, CA 90274 800-SYSMARK (800-797-6275) (O) 310-544-1974 (C) 310-561-5200 (F) 310-377-3550 www.sysmarkinfo.com Your Source for Integrated EDI Trans

RE: [U2] I-DESC Dict Items Returning SUBR Value

2007-05-13 Thread Dave Taylor
Bernard, That helps immensely. I should have started there before reading anything else. I'll go back and start from the beginning! Thanks much, Dave Dave Taylor CEO Sysmark Information Systems, Inc. 49 Aspen Way Rolling Hills Estates, CA 90274 800-SYSMARK (800-797-6275) (O) 310-544-1974 (C)

Re: [U2] A couple of questions about the PE version

2007-05-13 Thread Dave Taylor
Keith, If I understand your question correctly, the simplest way to connect to U2 from the machine on which it is installed (the console) using a telnet client is to install the telnet client (eg Dynamic Connect) on the same machine and telnet to itself. hth, Dave Dave Taylor CEO Sysmark Inform

RE: Articles (MV Books (Formerly: [U2] Incubator - News from the board))

2007-05-13 Thread David Jordan
Hi Gabe The U2UG are very interested to get articles about why people use multivalue in there environment. Particularly you being a fresh face and a convert, your insight would be welcome. Managers need information like this to justify to their boards and management why they should keep with U2

Re: MV Books (Formerly: [U2] Incubator - News from the board)

2007-05-13 Thread Eugene Perry
I can certainly understand that if his client does not want gui etc then he should do as his client wants. Since he is not developing a software package for market he has no need to do otherwise. I have worked with 2 companies in the last year that are doing gui front end and pick based back

Re: MV Books (Formerly: [U2] Incubator - News from the board)

2007-05-13 Thread Gabriel Green
I'm 25 and was raised on the Mac/Amiga, then got into UNIXand used Windows (reluctantly, until Win2k came out) since version 3.0 and various other platforms... When I first encountered our MV application I thought "this looks like an ancient piece of crap". I changed positions to IT manager s

Re: [U2] SLEEP (until some specific time)

2007-05-13 Thread MAJ Programming
If all you have is SLEEP 1000 instead of SLEEP 18:30, then simply calculate the difference of seconds. My 1:00 cents Mark Johnson - Original Message - From: "Dave Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 8:02 PM Subject: [U2] SLEEP (until some specific time) > Generic P

RE: MV Books (Formerly: [U2] Incubator - News from the board)

2007-05-13 Thread David Jordan
Hi Mark I think you are misunderstanding the issue. We all accept the character based applications are efficient and effective, and why replace it with GUI if there is no benefit. The issue comes down to whether the Glass is half empty or half full. The facts are the same it is just how we lo

Re: MV Books (Formerly: [U2] Incubator - News from the board)

2007-05-13 Thread MAJ Programming
I should have been a little clearer. Dawn mentioned some other technologies that I didn't hear of. Then Brian brought up Silverlite & Firebird. Point still intended. There seems to be an endless stream of new 'languages' that somehow cause one to feel left out. Mark Johnson - Original Messag

[U2] A couple of questions about the PE version

2007-05-13 Thread Keith Johnson \(DSLWN\)
As I recall, neither U2 console understands screen addressing - which means you can't run most of the applications I've written from the console. To my mind this means that someone can't just run U2 'out of the box' and get a thing that works. They will have to connect to a terminal emulator or se

RE: MV Books (Formerly: [U2] Incubator - News from the board)

2007-05-13 Thread Mike Randall
Mark, My comments to your post would be one of what is your real business? I think maximizing billable hours from a consulting standpoint is very different than building viable software solutions for today's market. I have a couple of green screen guys myself that love their 10+ year old app an

RE: MV Books (Formerly: [U2] Incubator - News from the board)

2007-05-13 Thread Mike Randall
Reading some of posts on this one, I had to throw my 2 cents in here. I agree with Brian's concept that MV *IS* a vibrant, modern technology capable of doing all the things the other environments do. For the past 3 years now, I have been exclusively doing .Net development with Oracle and SQL b

RE: [U2] I-DESC Dict Items Returning SUBR Value

2007-05-13 Thread Bernard Lubin
Dave, Chapter 5 of the Universe System Description Manual defines all the attributes used in the dictionary. Hope this helps. Rgds Bernard Lubin Development Department Reynolds and Reynolds -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Taylor Se

RE: [U2] 2 questions, one on STATUS and the other on STEAL-FILE

2007-05-13 Thread Keith Johnson \(DSLWN\)
Jeff Fitzgerald wrote > Could you give us an example of that -- I don't seem to be able to get it to work: I remember in the past being able to use the form "SET.INDEX FAST.STATS TO ./I_FAST.STATS". However, now one has to use the key word "RELATIVE.PATH" like this "SET.INDEX FAST.STATS TO R

RE: [U2] I-DESC Dict Items Returning SUBR Value

2007-05-13 Thread Dave Taylor
Thank you to Chuck, David, Brian and Bernard for your suggestions. I needed to add the information to atrributes 5 and 6 of the dictionary item, and it worked. I am still puzzled as to where I can find the structure of the ITYPE dict item described *fully* in the UV documentation. Thanks again,

[U2] SLEEP (until some specific time)

2007-05-13 Thread Dave Taylor
Generic Pick supports SLEEP (seconds) or SLEEP (until some specific time hh:mm:ss) UV Rel. 10.2.3 in the Pick flavor does not appear to support the SLEEP (specific time) option. Anyone know of another way to perform this function? tia, Dave Dave Taylor CEO Sysmark Information Systems, Inc. 49

[U2] RE: MV Books

2007-05-13 Thread Bill Haskett
Anthony: >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >Anthony W. Youngman >Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 1:12 PM >To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org >Subject: Re: MV Books (Formerly: [U2] Incubator - News from the board) > [snipped] > >The trouble is,

Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board

2007-05-13 Thread Dawn Wolthuis
It sounds like there is enough material among us all to perhaps pull it together in a single book. If anyone would like to work on pulling something like that together... BTW, Is the four-color theorem still one that has only been proven "by computer" or is there now an elegant mathematical proof

Re: MV Books (Formerly: [U2] Incubator - News from the board)

2007-05-13 Thread Dawn Wolthuis
On 5/13/07, Anthony W. Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, MAJ Programming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Dawn's recent reply to this thread suggested a few new technologies that >I've never heard of. Silverlite and Firebird sound like car names. IMHO, >I've heard of

Re: MV Books (Formerly: [U2] Incubator - News from the board)

2007-05-13 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, MAJ Programming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Dawn's recent reply to this thread suggested a few new technologies that I've never heard of. Silverlite and Firebird sound like car names. IMHO, I've heard of PHP as a flavor of the month, just like I heard of Perl and C#

Re: MV Books (Formerly: [U2] Incubator - News from the board)

2007-05-13 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dawn Wolthuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes I can imagine two possible curriculae in which a textbook could work. The area I have been researching might lend itself to a supplemental text (far easier to get approved for a course than an actual text book) within a Comp

Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board

2007-05-13 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Charles Barouch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Gabriel, I am currently writing an MV book and editing another. The first will be distributed free as a PDF and the second will be a college text book. We already have one College committed to using it bt I can't say m

Re: MV Books (Formerly: [U2] Incubator - News from the board)

2007-05-13 Thread Dawn Wolthuis
On 5/13/07, MAJ Programming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Brian/All: Dawn's recent reply to this thread suggested a few new technologies that I've never heard of. Silverlite and Firebird sound like car names. IMHO, I don't think I mentioned those, so likely that was someone else, but apologies

Re: MV Books (Formerly: [U2] Incubator - News from the board)

2007-05-13 Thread MAJ Programming
Brian/All: As a seasoned MV professional, borne from the original implementations through the multiple native expressions and now supporting clients on most of the current versions, I have a wide perspective. One of my flamable downsides is that I'm not exposed (via my clients) to that much of the

Re: [U2] Restricted TCL prompt - UniVerse 10.2?

2007-05-13 Thread Manu Fernandes
Hi, See Universe Admin Doc, chapter 8 section 10+11 Security Subroutine and R-emote Pointer. I hope this help. Manu - Original Message - From: "Gabriel Green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 5:12 AM Subject: [U2] Restricted TCL prompt - UniVerse 10.2? Is there a

RE: MV Books (Formerly: [U2] Incubator - News from the board)

2007-05-13 Thread Brian Leach
Mark Please don't feel my reply to your 'DOS-like' post was an attack. It absolutely wasn't. I just get frustrated that we - as a community - don't seem willing to spread the word that this IS a vibrant and modern technology, but seem to glory (and sometims wallow) in its past. Sometimes it seems

RE: [U2] Restricted TCL prompt - UniVerse 10.2?

2007-05-13 Thread Brian Leach
Gabe I would think the only real ways are A) create your own TCL shell as a BASIC program. But there is always the danger of someone breaking out of it accidentally. B) Create a second restricted account and remove various verbs from there (including COPY, ED and anything that would allow a use