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From: Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com
To: u2-users u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tue, Jul 16, 2013 9:42 am
Subject: Re: [U2] UML mapping tool for MV (UniVerse)
But with programmers able to create new DICT entries as they will, how do you
*keep* it spotless?
Wj,
Sarcasm on:
Use the Don security theory, first offense, cut off a couple of fingers, second
offense, cut off right hand, problem solved.
Sarcasm off
Seriously, this boils down to a management issue, employee supervision and buy
in.
Don
From: Wjhonson
I have some heartburn with the words optional and purely below. To me,
it is like saying that Daniel Webster was just a door-to-door encyclopedia
salesman.
U2 data dictionaries are key tool.
Why would someone climb on to a Rocket... to explore the UniVerse... without
a map... of the data?
You can place all of your dictionaries into a separate account, in a
separate directory. Create valid update permissions for an
administrator to this database directory and read permissions for users,
and anyone else
Bill
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*From:* wjhon...@aol.com
I can understand the desire to reshape the world that is, but I prefer a tool
that uses the world as already defined.
That way you can be assured that changes do not upset it, since it's already
coded to allow whatever woolley thing it encounters to be properly understood.
Paying people to
The only downside to that would be that you can't have filenames of the same
name in different accounts,
Unless you factor the accountname into the dict name.
George
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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of
Not so, not so
We do not put dict names on our files that reference any kind of credit card
information. So if someone is
List dicts, it won't jump out at them, there could be information worth taking
a look at.
What we have been doing, is we have a Word Template, and keep our file layouts
Not data... links.
IMHO, the main force of a data modeling tool, isn't to show you the data in
each table, it's to show you how the tables link to each other.
So what I was saying in the below snip, is that any missing links, probably
aren't important, and the tool should just map what it sees,
George:
You could create another dictionary account, next to the first one,
and reference it for those accounts that utilize the same file names
with different data structures. Would that work?
Bill
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(Hey Don, I think you have your ReplyTo set, so replies to your posts
to the list go to you direct.. Resending this to list...)
I think Don is spot on - substitute time off and other consequences
for finger breaking, though the Italian in me is quite partial to the
finger solution.
It's assumed
On 16/07/13 01:39, Hona, David wrote:
Regardless of the toolset, the first hurdle would be to normalise your
database to look like a relational one. Which is likely to be the greatest
hurdle. Data dictionaries in U2/PICK are optional are a purely for reporting
purposes - they can have
Greetings,
Keeping the dictionary clean // authorizing change // tracking change //
synching - PRC helps with that.
Weak excuse for a plug, right?
Susan Joslyn
SJ+ Systems Associates, Inc.
PRC - It Governance for U2.
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Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:59:43
How does PRC prevent programmers from creating extra dict entries ?
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From: Susan Joslyn sjos...@sjplus.com
To: u2-users u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tue, Jul 16, 2013 1:45 pm
Subject: [U2] Fwd: UML mapping tool for MV (UniVerse)
Greetings,
Keeping the
You silly boys and girls, you don't need dictionaries to do a UML class
diagram. You just need UniBasic code, Eclipse to index your code, and XLr8
to create the XML.
Regards,
Doug
www.u2logic.com
Spelling is optional for U2 programmers
___
U2-Users
Yea, but who's going to read, and understand, the XML? :-)
Bill
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*From:* dave...@gmail.com
*To:* U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
*Date:* 7/16/2013 2:05 PM
*Subject:*
How does it know what to call the data elements?
Code typically won't call an element Date.Hired
But the HR processing module, might just write the Action Date or even the
System Date into field 12 or something
It's up to the dictionary, and/or human knowledge of what the date means in
this
Doctor who gets into the mix.
Thats an interesting use for Eclipse.
Thanks
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From: Doug Averch dave...@gmail.com
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [U2] Fwd: UML mapping tool for MV (UniVerse)
You
If you use equates (EQUATE ACTION.DATE TO 12) then our XLr8 Eclipse based
system knows that your destination is 12 and is called ACTION.DATE. If
you U2 dictionary has 5 references to the position 12, then you will have
to have add a definition file to allow the translation to something other
If your starting from scratch, that would be a great. Standardization is
always the best thing for oganization,
but most Pick systems are made up of 20-30 years of programmers to came and
went with differing styles.
Maybe because of Pick's lack of organization enforcement - that is one of
it's
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