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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno
Sent: 07 February 2011 20:58
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] A new DML?
From: Charles_Shaffer
You will never be able to go completely away from
UniBASIC
I guess Ian was partially right? On jbase, all basic code is precompiled into c
code (which is then compiled into os native object and executables), and if you
wanted to you could just skip the precompiler and write the c code directly.
They provide object code libraries with functions for all
I'll go on a limb and state my belief emphatically that we will
never see another new language implemented within the DBMS
itself.
Not from universe/unidata/d3 maybe (and sadly), but this is what Intersystems
did with Cache. They added mv basic as a language in the dbms (beside the
original
On 2/8/2011 8:38 AM, Ed Clark wrote:
I'll go on a limb and state my belief emphatically that we will
never see another new language implemented within the DBMS
itself.
Well, the python on my aix box is a little crufty (2.6.2). Ctypes is
malfunctioning so I will probably be a quarter or two
On 2/8/2011 8:41 AM, Steve Romanow wrote:
On 2/8/2011 8:38 AM, Ed Clark wrote:
I'll go on a limb and state my belief emphatically that we will
never see another new language implemented within the DBMS
itself.
Well, the python on my aix box is a little crufty (2.6.2). Ctypes is
On 08/02/11 13:38, Ed Clark wrote:
I'll go on a limb and state my belief emphatically that we will
never see another new language implemented within the DBMS
itself.
Not from universe/unidata/d3 maybe (and sadly), but this is what Intersystems
did with Cache. They added mv basic as a
On 07/02/11 21:00, Steve Romanow wrote:
Now, as I've said recently, we can immediately build our own
external language bindings with no help from any of the DBMS
providers. Unfortunately this option leaves us to connect in via
the above methods, and no matter how fast that happens, it's
On 2/8/2011 10:28 AM, Wols Lists wrote:
On 07/02/11 21:00, Steve Romanow wrote:
Now, as I've said recently, we can immediately build our own
external language bindings with no help from any of the DBMS
providers. Unfortunately this option leaves us to connect in via
the above methods, and no
On 2/7/2011 11:48 PM, Steve Romanow wrote:
How many companies sole source of income is from innovation and
investment from 2-3 decades and 6 owners ago?
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I know of many but they each have their own varying level of
innovation due to varying
On 2/8/2011 10:34 AM, Glen B wrote:
On 2/7/2011 11:48 PM, Steve Romanow wrote:
How many companies sole source of income is from innovation and
investment from 2-3 decades and 6 owners ago?
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I know of many but they each have their own varying
On 2/8/2011 10:30 AM, Steve Romanow wrote:
On 2/8/2011 10:28 AM, Wols Lists wrote:
On 07/02/11 21:00, Steve Romanow wrote:
Now, as I've said recently, we can immediately build our own
external language bindings with no help from any of the DBMS
providers. Unfortunately this option leaves us
On 2/8/2011 10:41 AM, Glen Batchelor wrote:
It's available on AIX for PPC-64 based on the home page.
GlenB
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Ty, so there is some hope. I
It is clear to me that we have been for some time in an era of middleware.
Some examples...
Flex - ColdFusion - database
Ajax - pHp - SQL
SB+ - UniBasic - U2
FrontEnd - MiddleWare - database
GUI - BusinessLogic - database
With the emerging preponderance of devices, phones, tablets, PC's, the
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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-
boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Brutzman
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 10:44 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] A new DML?
It is clear to me that we have been for some time in an era
Only in part. Intersystems has many developers, all developing away. I'm trying
not to sound like an advertisement here--just making the point that innovation
is actively happening on at least 1 mv platform.
On Feb 8, 2011, at 10:26 AM, Wols Lists wrote:
On 08/02/11 13:38, Ed Clark wrote:
Of Ed Clark
Sent: Wednesday, 9 February 2011 11:01 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] A new DML?
Only in part. Intersystems has many developers, all developing away. I'm
trying not to sound like an advertisement here--just making the point
that innovation is actively happening on at least 1 mv
From: Charles_Shaffer
You will never be able to go completely away from
UniBASIC while keeping a U2 database. I don't think
that's possible.
We use Uniobjects on our web servers to access our
Unidata servers. Technically we could avoid UniBasic
with Uniobjects, although I don't
On 2/7/2011 3:58 PM, Tony Gravagno wrote:
From: Charles_Shaffer
You will never be able to go completely away from
UniBASIC while keeping a U2 database. I don't think
that's possible.
We use Uniobjects on our web servers to access our
Unidata servers. Technically we could avoid UniBasic
with
addition to the Pick
History series.
I learned RPL before I really learned BASIC.
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From: Tony Gravagno 3xk547...@sneakemail.com
To: u2-users u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Mon, Feb 7, 2011 12:58 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] A new DML?
From: Charles_Shaffer
You
RPL was a new language binding, which developed from PROC. It was a fully
extended language, capable of replacing BASIC in all regards. I wonder if
anyone is still running an RPL system anywhere?
Another note, per Ian Sandler, writing in or just before 1989, which might be
seen as
Have a look at Antler - http://www.antlr.org/ and
http://pragprog.com/titles/tpdsl/language-implementation-patterns
I have also looking into this as a method to extend UniBasic with a
pre-processor.
djm
slestak wrote:
I think I will be tinkering with this soon. I have to believe
On 2/7/2011 3:58 PM, Tony Gravagno wrote:
From: Charles_Shaffer
You will never be able to go completely away from
UniBASIC while keeping a U2 database. I don't think
that's possible.
We use Uniobjects on our web servers to access our
Unidata servers. Technically we could avoid UniBasic
with
On 02/07/2011 11:16 PM, Glen B wrote:
On 2/7/2011 3:58 PM, Tony Gravagno wrote:
From: Charles_Shaffer
You will never be able to go completely away from
UniBASIC while keeping a U2 database. I don't think
that's possible.
We use Uniobjects on our web servers to access our
Unidata servers.
On 2/4/2011 11:10 PM, DavidJMurray (mvdbs.com) wrote:
Yes, it is possible to use intercall with Python using the ctypes module:
http://mvdbs.com/2010/07/05/python-to-intercall/
We previously attempted to use SWIG to get python to call InterCall, but
ran into issues with python (64 bit) and
Thank You David!
Nice blog.
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:10 PM, DavidJMurray (mvdbs.com)
nab...@mvdbs.com wrote:
Yes, it is possible to use intercall with Python using the ctypes module:
http://mvdbs.com/2010/07/05/python-to-intercall/
Cheers,
djm
slestak wrote:
This might be a way to
Thanks for you kind comments.
Remember to comment any article that you find of value.
Cheers,
djm
slestak wrote:
Thank You David!
Nice blog.
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:10 PM, DavidJMurray (mvdbs.com)
nab...@mvdbs.com wrote:
Yes, it is possible to use intercall with Python using
Jeff,
I have not tried ctypes etc on a 64-bit platform, but if SWIG had issues,
then I would not be surprised if ctypes also had some issues. Is there not a
64-bit intercall with 64-bit UniVerse?
djm
Jeffrey Butera wrote:
On 2/4/2011 11:10 PM, DavidJMurray (mvdbs.com) wrote:
Yes, it is
On 02/05/2011 05:18 PM, DavidJMurray (mvdbs.com) wrote:
Thanks for you kind comments.
Remember to comment any article that you find of value.
Cheers,
djm
slestak wrote:
Thank You David!
Nice blog.
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:10 PM, DavidJMurray (mvdbs.com)
nab...@mvdbs.com wrote:
Yes,
Fixed. Thanks for that.
djm
slestak wrote:
http://mvdbs.com http://mvdbs.com
I attempted to and got an error regarding the wordpress captcha. Not
that I entered it incorrectly, just a wp malfunction.
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On 2/4/2011 2:18 PM, fft2...@aol.com wrote:
I have to disagree with the claim that none of the above interfaces
exist.
I'm currently in conversation with someone who has achieved connectivity
from PerlPHPD3 in order to have a type of web store.
I'm going to be looking at this to make the mods
In a message dated 2/4/2011 11:23:36 AM Pacific Standard Time,
slestak...@gmail.com writes:
Most of this discussion is about client side connectivity. What I would
love to see is a replacement for UniBASIC. Server side language
bindings are what interest me.
Of course you can do this.
On 2/4/2011 2:29 PM, fft2...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 2/4/2011 11:23:36 AM Pacific Standard Time,
slestak...@gmail.com writes:
Most of this discussion is about client side connectivity. What I would
love to see is a replacement for UniBASIC. Server side language
bindings are what
On 2/4/2011 2:29 PM, fft2...@aol.com wrote:
Of course you can do this.
Which of your clients do you think would be willing to pay me to develop
all the subroutines in PHP ?
This will never be done on an hourly basis for a client. Something like
this will be done probably by an inhouse team
If I was not already stacked up to the gills, I would be working on this
right now. I have a couple of false starts, and have reached out to a
few c programmers. One day...
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This might be a way to call the Intercall routines.
http://docs.python.org/extending/extending.html
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We were just discussing something similar on the PHP Meetup list. Lots of
people have lots of ideas. The ideas aren't what turn a 0 company into a
ten million dollar one. I have lots of ideas also, as does every programmer
or engineer.
An idea, a vision, a plan, go so far. If you don't
Yes, it is possible to use intercall with Python using the ctypes module:
http://mvdbs.com/2010/07/05/python-to-intercall/
Cheers,
djm
slestak wrote:
This might be a way to call the Intercall routines.
http://docs.python.org/extending/extending.html
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