Re: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-16 Thread MAJ Programming
. - Original Message - From: Eric Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 3:15 PM Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case Along with Robert I also took Typing (along with football, tennis, soccer) in High School and am glad I did

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-11 Thread Charles_Shaffer
They did teach keyboarding at my son's school, but with all of the phone texting that people (young people mainly) do these days is typing as we know it going to become obsolete? Do they even teach typing in school these day? My 15 year old daughter (who has had access to a computer since

Re: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-11 Thread Moderator
All, My typing teacher actually sat down and cried after a session with me. On that note, I'd like to suggest that the High School musings move to U2-Community. END OF THREAD --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-11 Thread Jerry Banker
] blank lines in code / mixed case Bill... I never meant to imply that a) I was offended, b) that I'm somehow any better than anyone else on this list, or c) that I'm a slow typist. I actually went through typing in high school (a most traumatic story) and got reasonably good at touch typing

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-11 Thread David A. Green
and correct fingering. David A. Green -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Armstrong Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 1:15 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case Along with Robert I also took Typing

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-11 Thread Craig McDonald
@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case They did teach keyboarding at my son's school, but with all of the phone texting that people (young people mainly) do these days is typing as we know it going to become obsolete? Do they even teach typing in school these day? My 15 year

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-11 Thread Norman Morgan
You can always count on an old brass-pounder to get the job done. 73 de (ex)WA4BCG === Norman Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.brake.com === How does a shelf salesman keep his

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-11 Thread David Murray
] blank lines in code / mixed case I understand your point Brian. So what do we do with the situation where upper case is actually more readable to me and yet less readable to you? How do we rationalize such a dichotomy? -K --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-11 Thread Keith Johnson (DSLWN)
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008, Jerry Banker wrote... If you ever want a scare then go through the programs in the Universe BP file. Some are upper case program lines with mixed case comments and prompts, the way I prefer it, some are all lower case, some are mixed case, and some are a mixture of all

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Brian Leach
] On Behalf Of Kevin King Sent: 10 March 2008 14:12 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case Bill, I followed you until this: * Upper case is an anachronism and should be treated as such rather than defended. It is unwieldy for far too many

Re: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Kevin King
Bill, I followed you until this: * Upper case is an anachronism and should be treated as such rather than defended. It is unwieldy for far too many and, in fact, interferes with efficient typing at every turn. Forcing people to use [Caps Lock] in U2 while all other used applications require

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Jerry Banker
that puts bread on your table. Jerry Banker -Original Message- From: Bill Haskett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 4:31 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case Kevin: I'm sorry to say, on this rare occasion I

Re: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Kevin King
I understand your point Brian. So what do we do with the situation where upper case is actually more readable to me and yet less readable to you? How do we rationalize such a dichotomy? -K --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Brian Leach
it out for itself. Duh. 7. Go for a beer.. and find a typing course. Brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin King Sent: 10 March 2008 15:36 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Mike Farrant
valid for such a small command set? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin King Sent: 10 March 2008 14:12 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case Bill, I followed you until this: * Upper case

Re: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Jeff Schasny
To paraphrase the ABATE folks: Let those who code decide. Unless I can get Donald Knuth to chime in on the subject (not likely since he stopped using email in 1990) I doubt that any of us are going to change each others minds. Especially the dinosaurs (used lovingly, and I include myself).

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread dsig
on email groups like this .. when someone types all in caps people complain that they are yelling G DSig David Tod Sigafoos SigsSolutions, Inc. Original Message Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case From: Brian Leach [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date

Re: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Mats Carlid
Mike Farrant skrev: snip--- PS I find unix irritating that it does not recognise LS when I mean ls or CP when I mean cp - how hard can it be to have both cases valid for such a small command set? Not hard at all really: Put the following commands in Your environment file file: alias

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Jerry Banker
: Kevin King [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 10:36 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case I understand your point Brian. So what do we do with the situation where upper case is actually more readable to me and yet less

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Robert Houben
I've been listening to this with a mix of amusement and sympathy. I've been doing integration work between (originally DOS) and PICK since the early 80's, and have found myself shifting between C/C++/C#/Java/Other and PICK on a regular basis. I've come to accept that most of my customers want

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread dsig
I am not sure that is a good argument .. a simple 15-20 line program FIND will convert all to upper case and do a search that way. DSig David Tod Sigafoos SigsSolutions, Inc. Original Message Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case From

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Eric Armstrong
Along with Robert I also took Typing (along with football, tennis, soccer) in High School and am glad I did. Eric -Original Message- From: Robert Houben [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 10:24 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Symeon Breen
] blank lines in code / mixed case I am not sure that is a good argument .. a simple 15-20 line program FIND will convert all to upper case and do a search that way. DSig David Tod Sigafoos SigsSolutions, Inc. Original Message Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Jerry Banker
- From: Eric Armstrong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 3:15 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case Along with Robert I also took Typing (along with football, tennis, soccer) in High School and am glad I did. Eric

Re: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Susan Lynch
to use tools by helping my Dad with chores. ;-) Susan Lynch FW Davison Company - Original Message - From: Jerry Banker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 4:58 PM Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case I was not trying

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Charles_Shaffer
Typing and speed reading. Really came in handy too. BTW, to the comment about straight guys not taking typing: Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Robert Houben
at our high school. We really broke the mold... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Banker Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 1:59 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case I was not trying to offend

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Brenda Price
for it! -Original Message- From: Susan Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 4:46 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case SNIP the local public high school SNIP --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Bill Haskett
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brenda Price Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 2:15 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case Do they even teach typing in school these day? My 15 year old daughter (who has had

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Jerry Banker
PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 4:54 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case No offence taken. I got your point. I was just pointing out that some boys saw benefits courses like typing! :) I think we took it for reasons that were a bit

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Larry Hiscock
. - Original Message - From: Jerry Banker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 4:58 PM Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case I was not trying to offend anyone with that remark but back in the day typing was something that girls took and boys

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Larry Hiscock
They teach the 21st century equivalent -- keyboarding. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brenda Price Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 3:15 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case Do they even

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Bill Haskett
, March 10, 2008 6:12 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case Bill, I followed you until this: * Upper case is an anachronism and should be treated as such rather than defended. It is unwieldy for far too many and, in fact, interferes with efficient

Re: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Ron Walenciak
Message - From: Jerry Banker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 4:58 PM Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case I was not trying to offend anyone with that remark but back in the day typing was something that girls took and boys took shop

Re: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-09 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kevin King [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes And one last point to really fire up some folks: To those who think mixed case is more readable, I offer this: It's syntax, not literature. While we should do everything we can to make the code as human readable as possible,

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-09 Thread Bill Haskett
@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case I am admittedly a dinosaur of the upper-case bent with U2. Before I put on my flame suit, hear me out.. We developers type thousands - possibly even millions - of characters of code per year To press the letter R with caps lock

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-08 Thread Brian Leach
Dennis I have no idea why your code should not compile ... I always use plenty of whitespace and, yes, for the past 15+ years I've been using mixed case. For good reasons - once you get used to ie (and that *IS* the caveat) it's much quicker to scan. That's why all modern languages use it. Of

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-08 Thread Warren, Phil
@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case Dennis I have no idea why your code should not compile ... I always use plenty of whitespace and, yes, for the past 15+ years I've been using mixed case. For good reasons - once you get used to ie (and that *IS* the caveat) it's much quicker

Re: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-08 Thread Kevin King
I am admittedly a dinosaur of the upper-case bent with U2. Before I put on my flame suit, hear me out.. We developers type thousands - possibly even millions - of characters of code per year To press the letter R with caps lock on or off is only one keypress - keeping in mind the state of the

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-08 Thread Symeon Breen
with the occasional upper case character to split/enhance a certain variable. Not just randomly mixed case ! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin King Sent: 08 March 2008 17:39 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] blank lines