Re: Accessible Install... Continued

2010-08-12 Thread Paul Hunt
Okay, So if I want to try and improve this procedure for future versions of Ubuntu, how might I best go about it? Thanks. Paul On 13/08/10 00:59, Luke Yelavich wrote: > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 09:47:07AM EST, Paul Hunt wrote: > >> According to Charlie's answer, to my question about what hap

Re: Accessible Install... Continued

2010-08-12 Thread Luke Yelavich
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 09:47:07AM EST, Paul Hunt wrote: > According to Charlie's answer, to my question about what happens when > you boot the live CD, the first screen that comes up gives you the > choice of language + buttons for choosing either an install or a live > session. > > So how do

Accessible Install... Continued

2010-08-12 Thread Paul Hunt
Hi, Sorry but I still haven't got an adequate answer to this. According to Charlie's answer, to my question about what happens when you boot the live CD, the first screen that comes up gives you the choice of language + buttons for choosing either an install or a live session. So how do you s

SV: SV: Accessible install in next release of Ubuntu

2010-08-12 Thread mattias
yes i have owned a mac -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: E.J. Zufelt [mailto:ever...@zufelt.ca] Skickat: den 13 augusti 2010 01:34 Till: mattias Kopia: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Ämne: Re: SV: Accessible install in next release of Ubuntu Good evening, VMWare Fusion is a vir

Re: SV: Accessible install in next release of Ubuntu

2010-08-12 Thread E.J. Zufelt
Good evening, VMWare Fusion is a virtualization application for the Mac. It has an "Easy Install" option that will install Ubuntu for you as a virtual machine, it takes you up to the login screen, where all you need to do is provide your password (which you give VMWare Fusion when you start th

SV: Accessible install in next release of Ubuntu

2010-08-12 Thread mattias
and how do you do a quick install without to look on the screen? -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: ubuntu-accessibility-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-accessibility-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] För E.J. Zufelt Skickat: den 13 augusti 2010 01:24 Till: Luke Yelavich Kopia: ubuntu-accessi

Re: Accessible install in next release of Ubuntu

2010-08-12 Thread E.J. Zufelt
For anyone interested and using a Mac... My temporary solution was to load Ubuntu in VMWare Fusion. I used the ISO and selected the "Quick INstall" option. After about 5 - 10 minutes I heard the login prompt and logged in (no speach) with the credentials I gave VMWare for the Easy Install. A

SV: Accessible install in next release of Ubuntu

2010-08-12 Thread mattias
and add brltty to installer again -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: ubuntu-accessibility-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-accessibility-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] För E.J. Zufelt Skickat: den 12 augusti 2010 14:54 Till: Ubuntu Accessibility Ämne: Accessible install in next release of U

Accessible install in next release of Ubuntu

2010-08-12 Thread E.J. Zufelt
Hi, Curious if there are any plans to make the accessible installation of the next release of Ubuntu more accessible? My thought is that instead of he rather precise timing required now to access the accessibility options that a keystroke could be used on the first page of the installer (once

Re: Meetings

2010-08-12 Thread Luke Yelavich
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 02:48:57AM EST, Penelope Stowe wrote: > I apologize for not being good at getting logs up after meetings, but > the meeting logs from the last meeting are up at > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/Team/MeetingLogs/20100630 > > Our next meeting will be Wednesday August 1

Re: Accessible install in next release of Ubuntu

2010-08-12 Thread Luke Yelavich
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:49:13PM EST, Chris Legg wrote: > The installer would not have any sound drivers loaded so speech > output wouldn't be possible. This is incorrect. Whenever your system boots, if a sound card is found, and the kernel has the driver for it, sound will be available. > Ho

Re: Accessible install in next release of Ubuntu

2010-08-12 Thread Luke Yelavich
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:57:34PM EST, E.J. Zufelt wrote: > Hi, > > Curious if there are any plans to make the accessible installation of the > next release of Ubuntu more accessible? Ubiquity is undergoing a UI redesign, so hopefully things will be better than in the past. I still need to try

Re: Meetings

2010-08-12 Thread Phillip Whiteside
Hi, I'm really sorry about this, but I've just started a new job. So will most likely be working (I run Pubs / Bars). I will try to get cover for the time the meeting is on. Please do not think I ignore the mailing list, I am committed to accessibility. If anyone would like help on the mine-field

accessible ubuntu startup

2010-08-12 Thread Josh Kennedy
Hi I think I know how the mac works like that. When the mac starts up it starts a timer in the background which counts down maybe 10 or 20 seconds or so. If you do nothing, it triggers voiceover to start up. first it plays some audio files of a guy saying: if you are blind and want to use voiceo

Re: Accessible install in next release of Ubuntu

2010-08-12 Thread E.J. Zufelt
Really thankful for the responses thus far. I think that what Paul and I are looking for though is for Ubuntu to be Universally Accessible, so that we don't need to download a different distribution or ask someone else for assistance with installation. Wouldn't it be great if Ubuntu could be e

Re: Accessible install in next release of Ubuntu

2010-08-12 Thread Maurice McCarthy
Paul, As a sighted person I was having trouble getting audacity verbal recording to work on Lucid Lynx until I chanced across Vinux (Linux for the Visually Impaired based on Lucid Lynx.) Vinux comes preconfigured in ways I found very useful. It is also the test bed for the accessibility options in

Re: Meetings

2010-08-12 Thread Charlie Kravetz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 12:48:57 -0400 Penelope Stowe wrote: > I apologize for not being good at getting logs up after meetings, but > the meeting logs from the last meeting are up at > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/Team/MeetingLogs/20100630 > >

Re: Accessible install in next release of Ubuntu

2010-08-12 Thread Paul Hunt
Hi Tara, Yes I know about how Macs automatically start speech if you don't interact with the system. Basically they assume you can't see the screen if you don't do anything after a set period. It would be great if Ubuntu could be like this or we could at least have a system where speech cou

Re: Accessible install in next release of Ubuntu

2010-08-12 Thread Tara Sawyer
On Macintosh OS X systems,, if you are at the front boot screen of the install screen long enough without touching/typing anything, the screen reader software starts up and asks if you need a screen reader. I forget exactly how that works, as I'm sighted, but I could go figure it out if it hel

Re: Accessible install in next release of Ubuntu

2010-08-12 Thread Charlie Kravetz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 17:54:06 +0100 Paul Hunt wrote: > Hi list, > > Could someone sighted please explain exactly what happens when you boot > the current (lucid) desktop CD? > > In the previous couple of versions of Ubuntu, the following used to ha

August 18, 2010 Meeting Agenda

2010-08-12 Thread Penelope Stowe
Hi, I've updated the wiki ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/Team/MeetingAgenda ) to reflect the agenda for the next meeting. Please feel free to add to the agenda with concerns/things you'd like to discuss! The current agenda: * Next Steps on Personas * Status of Wiki * What's Happening wi

Meetings

2010-08-12 Thread Penelope Stowe
I apologize for not being good at getting logs up after meetings, but the meeting logs from the last meeting are up at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/Team/MeetingLogs/20100630 Our next meeting will be Wednesday August 18, 2010 at 21:00 UTC. If no one has any major complaints, I'd like to p

Re: Accessible install in next release of Ubuntu

2010-08-12 Thread Paul Hunt
Hi list, Could someone sighted please explain exactly what happens when you boot the current (lucid) desktop CD? In the previous couple of versions of Ubuntu, the following used to happen; 1. You boot the CD. 2. Almost immediately the CD stops spinning and you are on a language selection sc

Re: Accessible install in next release of Ubuntu

2010-08-12 Thread Chris Legg
The installer would not have any sound drivers loaded so speech output wouldn't be possible. However I believe you can run a live desktop from the CD without installing, so you might be able to launch Orca and run the graphical installer that way. Chris On 12/08/2010 8:57 PM, E.J. Zufelt w

Accessible install in next release of Ubuntu

2010-08-12 Thread E.J. Zufelt
Hi, Curious if there are any plans to make the accessible installation of the next release of Ubuntu more accessible? My thought is that instead of he rather precise timing required now to access the accessibility options that a keystroke could be used on the first page of the installer (once