I feel like the OP's question is a bit different.
My understanding of these devices is that they become full(er) desktops
when plugged in to external hardware. At this point, would existing
desktop APIs take over and grant a desktop-like level of a11y, even if
they don't work in touch mode?
On 10/30/2013 11:19 AM, Luke Yelavich wrote:
> If there were more resources, more effort could be put into supporting
> interim releases. Luke
I agree. It's a shame that Canonical is so focused on replacing GNOME
with Unity, replacing Wayland with Mir, building its own cloud
deployment solution,
FWIW, the upgrade went fine under 13.04, no problems whatsoever. That's
my biggest criticism with only making LTS releases accessible. The
accessibility infrastructure moves on and improves, and browsers rapidly
acquire new and game-changing capabilities like Web RTC/Web Audio at a
rapid rate. Yet,
Running on my laptop now. The beta install was about the same as all
other previous "accessible" installs in that it's mostly all functional,
but there are a few rough edges that I wish had been banished already
(my wireless driver is proprietary, so every time I install on my laptop
I have to
are
about a11y. There are people, but not nearly enough, imo. I can't
code, and documentation on accessiility is sparse or non existent,
making it difficult for anyone not familiar with gnome to dive in.
On 01/07/2013 02:51 PM, kendell clark wrote:
ouch. Pms, maybe?
On 01/07/2013 02:49 PM, No
On 01/07/2013 02:51 PM, kendell clark wrote:
ouch. Pms, maybe?
Nope, just my zero tact and diplomacy rearing its head. If people like
their choices, then great. More power to them. But I have a short fuse
with being criticized for daring to question the status quo, or for
implying that some
First, please confirm which versions of Firefox and Orca I am using.
Since you know so much about my environment, I look forward to your
abilities in this regard.
Second, please justify why the fact that a given choice works for you is
a good reason why that choice must be for everyone. I at n
the barricades and the
squeaky wheels.
For my part, I hope you take up the fight, and I hope you don't take
the fact that I'm a different person with a different approach as a
reason not to take up the fight yourself.
On 01/06/2013 08:21 PM, Nolan Darilek wrote:
Great ideas and thou
Great ideas and thoughts here, folks.
To put my words in context, I've used Linux since Slackware '96 which,
as its name implies, was released in 1996. I started using GNOME
accessibility in the Gnopernicus days, and at the moment it is my
full-time operating system of choice.
However, my ex
on smart phones is
somehow frivolous or trivial.
Note I also changed the subject line since this discussion seems to be
much broader than just the Ubuntu Phone OS announcement.
On 01/04/2013 10:50 PM, Nolan Darilek wrote:
Here is Jono's announcement of Ubuntu for Phones:
http://www.jonoba
ards and thanks to Luke and others who
work with what they have to give us the accessibility that they can.
--
Burt Henry
On 01/04/2013 01:09 AM, Robert Cole wrote:
Hello, Nolan.
When I first switched to Linux, I did so because I fell in love with
Ubuntu. Ubuntu is what I used (exclusively) until
I would like to organize some sort of advocacy effort to get Canonical
to take accessibility more seriously. I understand the limitations of
the current accessibility team, but if we look back at the state of
computing two years ago vs. today, any reasonable person would agree
that telling a ce
On 12/21/2012 02:38 PM, Charlie Kravetz wrote:
What is happening is that accessibility will be broken in releases
until 14.04. I thought that was an answer to whether or not it is
expected to work in any release until then.
Fair enough, but it works more or less fine in 12.10 contrary to
On 12/21/2012 11:32 AM, Charlie Kravetz wrote:
As stated many times now by the developer that maintains accessibility
for Ubuntu: "It is
The question was not "what is recommended/expected to happen," and I
think I was fairly clear in stating that. The question is "what is
happening in the re
On 12/21/2012 11:55 AM, Andy B. wrote:
thought 13.04 was a LTS release, but either way, when I tried to
install 13.04 a few hours ago, the installer was completely
inaccessible. In fact, it's so bad, that the try/install window is
100% inaccessible. Pressing ctrl+s does start orca, but alt+tab
Normally I'd stay away from development releases, but apparently the
newest Orca requires Python 3.3, and I'm experiencing some issues in the
Orca shipped with 12.10 that make it difficult to use (it doesn't seem
to respond to the command line option that's supposed to kill it, hangs
fairly reg
I'm under Ubuntu 12.10 and am encountering an odd access issue.
I acknowledge that 12.10 isn't intended to be as accessible as LTS
releases, but this is an odd enough corner case that it seems should work.
If I pull up the LibreOffice Writer to view a Word document, I can't
seem to open any m
, Nov 06, 2012 at 05:28:01PM EST, Nolan Darilek wrote:
How do I debug this?
I get that accessibility of 12.10 isn't guaranteed, but it seems
silly that it should work fine, then break utterly with no apparent
cause.
I'd be interested to know if this problem regularly appears after a res
This is such an odd problem and I don't know what caused it or how to
solve it.
I put away my laptop in the morning, literally just woke it up in the
evening, and the Orca key doesn't work. No Orca commands (t for time,
review, etc.) do anything. Caps lock isn't treated like it would be
witho
Wondering if anyone else has seen these in their .xsession-errors?
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/input_event.py", line 509,
in processInputEvent
consumed = self.function(script, inputEvent)
File
"/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/scripts
As of a couple days ago, Orca stopped launching at my login screen. I
don't immediately see anything in /var/log/lightdm when I grep for orca,
other than an error from Oct. 11. Nothing from my most recent launches.
I'm wondering if whatever configuration file that launches Orca on login
might
On 09/13/2012 11:49 AM, Andy B. wrote:
It looks pretty good so far, but the menu in Unity that had the messages
apps such as mail/pidgin is no longer accessible. From what I could tell,
this is my only problem aside from waiting on a voxin update.
Does this mean the entire menubar, including ap
Does anyone know the 12.10 accessibility story? I'm about to do a fresh
install, and am wondering if I should go with 12.04.01, or with a
version that will be released in a bit over a month.
I'm particularly concerned about the Unity2D deprecation, and the
abandonment of QT in Unity3D in favor
I thought I'd post to Brainstorm about this, so I wrote a letter. Only,
the account creation process uses an ASCII CAPTCHA with no audio
equivalent. I can't even run that past WebVisum.
I'll figure something else out, I guess. Ugh this is disheartening. I
was so looking forward to a 12.04 rele
On 03/06/2012 09:50 AM, Charlie Kravetz wrote:
Much as I hate to say it, this is what I have fought for at UDS for
quite a while now. Every 6 months, the rhetoric is the same.
"Accessibility is very important. We will make sure it can be tested
during the Alpha testing stages! We can not have a
On 03/06/2012 09:18 AM, Alan Bell wrote:
On the plus side I do believe that the fixes are really quite small,
and then I expect it will be quite good in comparison to older
releases. What concerns me the most is that things are not being
tested until too late. *Designs* are not tested for acc
nd filing of small bugs and fixing
strings, but I can't do any polishing because it is all broken. I do
know that Unity was supposed to not land broken this cycle, but I
can't imagine that orca or onboard feature in the pre-landing test
scripts. Are these scripts published?
Alan.
On 0
Ugh! We get to this point in every release, where there are patches for
a whole bunch of issues that take forever to land. Meanwhile, testers
can't examine the new release to see what new issues were revealed after
the fixing of the old. So there's no accessibility *test* cycle, just a
bunch of
What accessibility issues still remain in 11.10? I remember writing
about some back in November or so--issues reading menus, notifications
not being read, etc. I understand the notification issue still remains.
What else is unresolved?
I'm on 11.04 and am starting to encounter some majorly fru
I can no longer reach the applet bar and don't know what might have
changed. Running 11.04. I am aware that Unity/11.10 resolves this, but
I'm not ready to take on the other accessibility issues it introduces.
When I ctrl-alt-tab to the top bar, I can arrow between Firefox and the
system/apps/
Hello.
I just installed Ubuntu 11.10 via Wubi on my laptop about an hour ago,
and I have not used the a11y PPA. I was able to access the wireless
icon normally, if that is of any help to you. I find that it is
actually working wonderfully using Orca.
On 10/15/2011 09:04 PM, Nolan Darilek wrot
nger speak. This seems like it might be a regression in the a11y PPA.
Thanks.
On 10/15/2011 10:46 PM, Nolan Darilek wrote:
Just slapped this onto an old netbook I'm trying to revive. Here are
my initial impressions.
I love the new way to run accessibility on the live CD. Great! I jus
Just slapped this onto an old netbook I'm trying to revive. Here are my
initial impressions.
I love the new way to run accessibility on the live CD. Great! I just
wish it also worked from the instance that gets run when you choose to
try without installing. Running manually works, but consiste
Thanks for the post.
As a heads-up, unless I'm missing something, the videos aren't
accessible under Ubuntu 11.04 in Firefox. Flash objects just appear as
objects that occasionally snag focus and generally don't allow keyboard
interaction.
On 10/13/2011 08:56 AM, Penelope Stowe wrote:
Hi A
e Kravetz wrote:
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Nolan Darilek wrote:
Just upgraded to Natty today and am having some issues:
1. I was switched to Unity despite its being somewhat less accessible,
and can't find an accessible way to switch back
Just upgraded to Natty today and am having some issues:
1. I was switched to Unity despite its being somewhat less accessible,
and can't find an accessible way to switch back. There appear to be
unlabeled controls on the login screen, including one that speaks
"null". How do I switch back to c
Hello. I just bought a new laptop. Unfortunately, nothing I do gets the
installation CD to come up talking, so I'm thinking that I'll be taking
it into the store to have them do the install for me. To simplify
matters, though, I'm wondering if it is possible to add/activate the
blindness profil
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Not sure if this is known, but I wanted to at least report it.
The other day I downloaded the Maverick B1 AMD64 installer to place on a
new computer. I booted successfully with speech and clicked on the
installer launcher. It asked a few questions, if
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Yes, I can definitely confirm it. This same behavior also exists in the
applet that lets me lock the screen, log out, etc.--not sure of its name.
Has anyone filed a bug on this? I've just been living with it, but
you're right, it is more important in
Cool, glad that it isn't just me, or something botched in the upgrade.
Orca started speaking another language halfway through and I thought
that Ctulhu had me for sure.
Speaking of oddness, this happens only on my desktop as well. For the
first few seconds after logging into my desktop, my audi
Just took the plunge to Lucid today and am mostly impressed. It is
hands-down the fastest release yet WRT speech. Furthermore, I'm glad
that Thunderbird 3.0 is finally included, as I was running from the
Mozilla daily PPA to get accessible 64-bit builds, which wasn't ideal
for several reasons.
Sorry, I meant to reply to the list but realize that I must not have.
I recommended deja-dup to the OP a while back. I've used this
successfully for a few weeks now and it's a rather nice app, somewhat
like TimeMachine for OS X but with a bit less customizability (I.e. I'm
not sure you can do
OK, I swear that my system noticed me sending my previous message and
decided to get in line. :)
For the first time I can recall, notifications spontaneously fixed
themselves during the course of a session. They just started speaking.
Checking ps shows that notify-osd appears to have been launc
Hello, wondering if anyone else has seen this and if there's a fix?
Sometimes notifications via notify-osd speak fine. I've actually come to
rely upon these for various bits of functionality. Since I can't just
glance over to my IM contacts window, for instance, I use these
notifications to not
er way you can, even if its only filing and
> triaging bugs, thats something. The more bugs that are in a triaged state,
> the less work I have to do, and the more bugs I can attempt to fix.
>
> I hope you all understand, and will do what you can to help.
>
> Regards
> Luke
>
>
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Anyone using it regularly? Lots of folks not using accessibility seem to
be having good luck with it, so I'm thinking of making the upgrade. How
is it from an accessibility perspective? And are there any more
potential audio breaking changes planned?
Thanks.
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I have a few issues with the language here. Specifically:
On 06/29/2009 10:56 AM, Bill Cox wrote:
>Vinux, previously based on Ubuntu, has been forced
> to switch future development to Debian branches.
No one "forced" anyone to do anything. That was a choice made by the
Vinux developer. A cho
On 05/31/2009 04:37 PM, Chris Meredith wrote:
Wow. I'm getting ... actually no audio whatsoever, regardless of what
I do, with this edition of Ubuntu. I'm beginning to wonder if I
didn't maybe download the server edition in error.
Can you at least tell if GNOME has launched? If so then yo
1. I've needed to switch back to pulse because, under ALSA, I didn't
seem to get speech back when resuming from suspend. In my quest to find
the perfect setup, I tried the test version of pulse from Luke's PPA and
these did not work well with SD. I've since restored to the Jaunty pulse
packages, bu
On 03/31/2009 12:12 PM, mike wrote:
> 1, The audio sounds like it is speeding up at times when the system logs in.
> This has been the case for a while, but Orca works fine.
>
I think this is an artifact of the switch back to ALSA. It goes away
when I install a pulse/SD stack. Hopefully puls
Do we know what causes these?
It appears to me to be highly random, that or it depends on factors
which I'm tweaking without knowing it. It looks like /etc/sudoers as
shipped includes the necessary ATK variables in the environment, though
I don't know if that's relevant in this instance. I also
Since at least one other person was curious about this, and since it
confused me:
It looks as if accessible installs are intended to forego pulse. I was
confused by the presence of pulse-session in my list of processes,
thinking that perhaps the newer versions of pulse had dramatically
reduced
On 03/30/2009 01:43 AM, Luke Yelavich wrote:
> No, and this should be fixed as of the msot recent updatesw that you
> retrieve, hwoever you have to create an empty file in your home
> directory, .pulse_a11y_nostart. This file will be created on fresh
> installs however.
I'm curious. From my per
I can confirm this. I took the plunge and installed Jaunty earlier this
evening. Quite impressed thus far. I was rather skeptical reading
everyone's praise, as getting a good accessibility configuration seems
to be a bit of a black art and I couldn't imagine getting it right
without individual
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