Re: [ubuntu-art] [Ubuntu-Art] Hardy GTK theme

2007-11-07 Thread tonic
As an example of the problems faced. Open up the GIMP or Inkscape in a dark theme. You may notice some of the tool icons become difficult to identify, particularly in Inkscape. tonic On Wed, 2007-11-07 at 14:14 -0500, Corey Woodworth wrote: > I agree, as much as I like dark themes, there are jus

[ubuntu-art] Fonts

2007-11-07 Thread Tiago Souza
Are fonts within our scope? Can we change it? Will we change it? I'm wondering why we are not discussing it.. Cheers! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Hardy GTK Theme

2007-11-07 Thread Tiago Souza
Hey, but didn't UDS chose Tango guidelines? If this still can change, what does that means (UDS = Tango)? Cheers, T. On Nov 7, 2007 4:37 PM, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 07/11/2007, Can K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > What do you think of this icon set:

Re: [ubuntu-art] Hardy GTK Theme

2007-11-07 Thread Josué Alcalde González
El mié, 07-11-2007 a las 16:09 -0500, Cory K. escribió: > > Josué Alcalde González wrote: > > I hope something really new. > > > > I like this mockup a lot: > > http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=31128 > > > Unfortunately that requires major changes to GNOME. > Perhaps it is n

Re: [ubuntu-art] Hardy GTK Theme

2007-11-07 Thread xl cheese
Speaking of changes to gnome. I can think of two small ones that would make a huge difference. 1. Ability to add a gradient to the panel bar w/o pixmaping it. 2. Ability to grab a window from both the metacity title bar as well as the blank space on the menubar. Perhaps even the blank space

Re: [ubuntu-art] Hardy GTK Theme

2007-11-07 Thread Cory K.
Josué Alcalde González wrote: > I hope something really new. > > I like this mockup a lot: > http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=31128 > Unfortunately that requires major changes to GNOME. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/

[ubuntu-art] Hardy GTK Theme

2007-11-07 Thread Josué Alcalde González
I hope something really new. I like this mockup a lot: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=31128 -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Hardy GTK Theme

2007-11-07 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
On 07/11/2007, Can K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What do you think of this icon set: http://art.gnome.org/themes/icon/759 > > It contains only a few, but i really like the folder icon. > > > > (sorry if i have sent two mails, but i'm a bit confused by mailing > > lists) > > > That's even worse

Re: [ubuntu-art] hardy gtk theme

2007-11-07 Thread Corey Woodworth
Can we do a gentle noise or noise+blur texture in cairo, like in your background? I thing gloss is on the way out too, but it is better than plain jane flat colors. A subtle texture though would be very cool! Just so long as it doesn't come off as a rip off of that old Mac brushed metal theme, it w

Re: [ubuntu-art] hardy gtk theme

2007-11-07 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
On 07/11/2007, Andreas Nilsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: > > On 07/11/2007, *Andreas Nilsson* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > wrote: > > > > Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: > > > On 07/11/2007, *Troy James Sobotka* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [ubuntu-art] [Ubuntu-Art] Hardy GTK theme

2007-11-07 Thread Corey Woodworth
I agree, as much as I like dark themes, there are just too many kinks to work out. I do like the idea of packaging an aditional dark theme with hardy though. It would be a good base to build from if we wanted to make a dark theme default in hardy+1 Corey On Nov 7, 2007 1:50 PM, Mikkel Kamstrup E

Re: [ubuntu-art] hardy gtk theme

2007-11-07 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
On 07/11/2007, Troy James Sobotka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Andreas Nilsson wrote: > > I'm not sure what kind of elegance you are looking for, > > I don't believe it is a far stretch to suggest that a notion > of elegant is probably rooted in

Re: [ubuntu-art] [Ubuntu-Art] Hardy GTK theme

2007-11-07 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
On 07/11/2007, Matthew Nuzum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Nov 7, 2007 12:14 AM, Troy James Sobotka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: > > Another problem with dark themes is a purely technical one. I've done a > > handful dark themes myself, but they always end

Re: [ubuntu-art] hardy gtk theme

2007-11-07 Thread Álvaro Medina Ballester
Yeah, that's a good one. Notification area should be monochrome (or no more than 3 colours). When you have more than 4 icons, the notification area becomes too similar to the icons just at the right of "System" menu. I think that just the apps icons and maybe the gtk app buttons (save, open, etc..)

Re: [ubuntu-art] Hardy GTK Theme

2007-11-07 Thread Álvaro Medina Ballester
Yeah, I'm agree with you. I have the same opinion about Tango icons. The people at Iconfactory seems that followed the Tango guidelines. We have to discuss if we want to take these Ubuntu icons and go further or try another options(hiperrealistic icons, more Tangoish, etc..). I'll post some ideas t

Re: [ubuntu-art] hardy gtk theme

2007-11-07 Thread Corey Woodworth
I agree about Tango. It's nice and all, but I want something more detailed, realistic, and well, different. I think working off the Oxygen theme wouldn't be a bad idea since there will already be quite a lot work done on it. Mime types and actions would already be completed. We'd mostly just have t

Re: [ubuntu-art] [Ubuntu-Art] Hardy GTK theme

2007-11-07 Thread Matthew Nuzum
On Nov 7, 2007 12:14 AM, Troy James Sobotka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: > Another problem with dark themes is a purely technical one. I've done a > handful dark themes myself, but they always end up with small glitches > here and there because not all apps are des

Re: [ubuntu-art] hardy gtk theme

2007-11-07 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: > On 07/11/2007, *Andreas Nilsson* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: > > On 07/11/2007, *Troy James Sobotka* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > I somewhat agree wi

Re: [ubuntu-art] Hardy GTK Theme

2007-11-07 Thread Can K.
> > What do you think of this icon set: http://art.gnome.org/themes/icon/759 > It contains only a few, but i really like the folder icon. > > (sorry if i have sent two mails, but i'm a bit confused by mailing lists) That's even worse than the current icon set! I've a question to all of us: Is Ubu

Re: [ubuntu-art] Hardy GTK Theme

2007-11-07 Thread xl cheese
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re: > [ubuntu-art] Hardy GTK Theme> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 17:02:15 +0100> CC: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Tuesday 06 November 2007 16:54:18 xl cheese wrote:> > > But diagonals do look good in real themes. These are pixmap them

Re: [ubuntu-art] Hardy GTK Theme

2007-11-07 Thread Jan Niklas Hasse
What do you think of this icon set: http://art.gnome.org/themes/icon/759 It contains only a few, but i really like the folder icon. (sorry if i have sent two mails, but i'm a bit confused by mailing lists) 2007/11/7, xl cheese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > -- > > From

Re: [ubuntu-art] hardy gtk theme

2007-11-07 Thread Troy James Sobotka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Nilsson wrote: > I'm not sure what kind of elegance you are looking for, I don't believe it is a far stretch to suggest that a notion of elegant is probably rooted in notions that we dug up from the Art Nouveau and Art Deco eras. Typified by

Re: [ubuntu-art] hardy gtk theme

2007-11-07 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
On 07/11/2007, Andreas Nilsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: > > On 07/11/2007, *Troy James Sobotka* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > wrote: > > > > > > 2) The heavy Crayola outlining of all buttons / tabs / etc. is > >completely

Re: [ubuntu-art] hardy gtk theme

2007-11-07 Thread Emrah Ünal
Hey all Call me a heretic, I didn't like that diagonal gloss on buttons. I agree with Cimi, it's not usable. There's been many attempts to find an original kind of "gloss", if we're up to find another, this one should be much different from previous ones. When I was experimenting with different k

Re: [ubuntu-art] hardy gtk theme

2007-11-07 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: > On 07/11/2007, *Troy James Sobotka* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > > 2) The heavy Crayola outlining of all buttons / tabs / etc. is >completely counter any notion of elegance or grace. It is perhaps >the weak

[ubuntu-art] Hardy GTK Theme

2007-11-07 Thread Günther Beyer
I compiled a quick list of websites, using orange, black and white. Might help for some inspiration. • http://spousenotes.com/ • http://www.denyingphoenix.com/ • http://www.enhancedlabs.com/main/index.html • http://www.fluoro.com.au/ • http://www.impactvisual.ca/ • http://www.inmo-site.net/ • http

Re: [ubuntu-art] Hardy GTK Theme

2007-11-07 Thread tonic
Those reflections are pretty nice. The more subtle elements are good if people are genuinely moving away from gloss. I think gentle curves for reflections are better, we have enough hard edges on the screen as it is. tonic On Wed, 2007-11-07 at 00:21 +0100, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: > On 0

Re: [ubuntu-art] Hardy GTK Theme

2007-11-07 Thread tonic
Almost all of those diagonals were curves anyway. On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 12:28 -0500, Corey Woodworth wrote: > The murrina theme may not support those diagnal gradiants, but It does > have nice up turned gradients on the sides of buttons. They are nice. It is probably possible to grow a diagonal

Re: [ubuntu-art] Hardy GTK Theme

2007-11-07 Thread tonic
On Wed, 2007-11-07 at 09:37 +0100, Günther Beyer wrote: > I'm still missing that little piece of "outstanding" - the Ubuntulook. > The diagonal highlights are a good start, but like dark colour, they > might be problematic at some point. The hard part about diagonal highlights is getting the sa

Re: [ubuntu-art] hardy gtk theme

2007-11-07 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
On 07/11/2007, Troy James Sobotka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 2) The heavy Crayola outlining of all buttons / tabs / etc. is >completely counter any notion of elegance or grace. It is perhaps >the weakest element of Tango, and it simply makes work look >bold and clunky. Assuming

Re: [ubuntu-art] Hardy GTK Theme

2007-11-07 Thread Günther Beyer
Troy and Mikkel are right. Although a dark interface is nice and maybe fresh, but there are some problems with some applications and icons here and there. I didn't thought about that. So much for the black theme. Still I really love the mac-stile of interface design, I don't think we should follow