I fully second that.
Build to make Ubuntu more robust before adding features.
Le 02/11/2010 05:01, Martin Wildam a écrit :
So please, please, focus more on bug fixing than on introducing new
user ui, which already is really good!
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I did not tried myself but heard and read of _many_ people that this
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I agree. I tried running the Unity on Maverick on the 2004 laptop with
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I am also on 10.04 - although 9.10 would have been the better LTS.
Please,
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years? What should companies do if they need some software development
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OK, this maybe again not seems very relevant to Bug #1, but IMHO
It is not just that Ubuntu has developed a lot over the last 2 or 3
years.
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covered
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multi-everything system. The introduction of dual/quad-core cpus
You're absolutely right, Tom.
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community was ''playing'' with the great Compiz and its cube.
And there are some people who still think that Linux has not a graphical
say - 5
years? What should companies do if they need some software development
now?
OK, this maybe again not seems very relevant to Bug #1, but IMHO there
are many factors playing together. Home users buy there hardware often
at different shops where companies do and I guess Bug #1 would like
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We are just all tired of guys that respond to help proposals saying
go f*ck yourself. It is _really_ annoying.
Let me neutralize the annoying comment:
I would like thank you all for the engagement, the hard work and for
the
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In 2007 the market for a software store was very immature. Now everyone
got one. There is Appstore, Android Market, Chrome Web Store, and
Microsofts specs for Windows 8 suggests they are planning one.
I think it is
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I think it is
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Wow. That's what I call a well thought-out, logically-argued, polite
and in-depth comment right there. Stay classy.
He was cooked up on deep fried, non-organic, proprietary software. He
needs to go on a raw, organic, freshly squeeze, free
). (Bug #1 has
in effect created a whole generation of consumers who view computers as
a way to get to entertainment).
In other words we get what we deserve/ask for. Maybe we should really
change the status to won't fix after all, for obvious reasons; but I
guess it's better to stay positive and go
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On another front, i think the idea of recycling old computers
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There is no reason why Linux should have less usage share then OS X.
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On another front, i think the idea of recycling old
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That's not a very Ubuntu way of responding. When trolled, just rise
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Thank you, Mark, for the reminder. I just could not seem to take this
kind of stuff from Setve. I promise to behave in a more Ubuntu way
from now on.
Thanks again!
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One of the certifications is the brainwash one.
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Ubuntu
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Thats the common use of the word Linux and its quite obvious that i did not
On 10/23/2010 01:19 AM, Setve Gentilly wrote:
Why don't you go go yourself you ing ***.
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:23 PM, houstonbofh1...@bugs.launchpad.net
I don't believe you.
Really, that kid of response is a crass way of saying, Ooops... You
Got me. And I wonder why
On 10/23/2010 07:00 AM, Faldegast wrote:
Take a look at Xandros and their success. CNR seam to work quite well,
just to bad that their OS is...
In 2006, there was an announcement of CNR for Ubuntu. It was actually
in Hardy. It never went anywhere. See
Dear Mark,
Words to live by.
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Subject: Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share
@Martin
That's
I think that the official name for CNR is something else now.
In 2007 the market for a software store was very immature. Now everyone
got one. There is Appstore, Android Market, Chrome Web Store, and
Microsofts specs for Windows 8 suggests they are planning one.
Yeah, there is people that is
@Faldegast
The Ubuntu Software Centre (USC) is the way software gets distributed to
Ubuntu users. It can accommodate FLOSS, proprietary, and more. New in
10.10 there is a section in USC for commercial apps (that cost money)
too. The one thing that all software in USC has in common though is that
Ok. Now I found it. :)
I don't think the USC need to be replaced. I will read more about it and
perhaps write a blueprint with whatever ideas i get.
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The Ubuntu Software Centre (USC) is the way software gets distributed to
Ubuntu users. It can accommodate FLOSS, proprietary, and
is OEM products and they are usually sold with
computers, so we must target the OEM builders.
While i have talked a lot about technology on this issue, technology is
not a #1 bug issue. We have technology, what we need to fix bug #1 is
marketing.
There is no reason why Linux should have less usage
on this issue, technology is
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While i have talked a lot about technology on this issue, technology is
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On Sat, 2010-10-23 at 05:19 +, Setve Gentilly wrote:
Why don't you go go fuck yourself you fucking asshole.
Setve, you're cooked. Get off the recreational dairy and refined sugar.
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I would love nothing better than to replace some of these
people's unlicensed OS with Ubuntu.
But unfortunately I don't have the know how or experience to do that because
I don't find Ubuntu user friendly (from a Windows perspective).
I
Hi :)
There is not really any must do in linux. Linux seems to be about offering
choices, about offering freedom OF choice. As we know Windows provides freedom
FROM choice and so it is the preference for most people.
I found the best way to learn how to install and use linux was to learn how
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Did you bother to check which systems are certified first?
http://webapps.ubuntu.com/certification/
Think of your experiences in the Windows world. You likely have used
hardware that is stickered Windows Ready,
point of this bug#1 because a 'pre-installed' linux is very easy to
use.
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Microsoft has a majority market share
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On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:04, Tom 1...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
I find that after a decent install most people don't even notice that they are
using a different OS. Firefox is there and the menus easy to navigate.
Documents open with a double-click.
I don't fully agree - e.g. Movie player
This bug report is not about how difficult or easy OSes are to install. It is
about how difficult it is to buy a machine with a decent OS pre-installed.
@ Martin
I think we are agreeing but have semantic differences. Imo an install is not
complete until the system is tweaked and made usable
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