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Online search results have been disabled by default in Unity 7, starting
from 16.04 LTS.
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SO , we are heading for 16.04 and the next summit is next week.
Can we maybe discuss this in the summit so this amazon integration does
not make user hate Ubuntu anymore ?
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So let me get this straight...
100% of the time when I type into the dash, my system is searching for
online resources relevant to what I typed. That said, 99% of the time I
type into the dash, I am doing so to retrieve a local file or
application. So roughly translated, 99% of the time Unity is b
Removing unity-scope-home causes lots of problems. Instead run the
following command in the Terminal to disable the spyware:
gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Lenses disabled-scopes
"['more_suggestions- amazon.scope', 'more_suggestions-u1ms.scope',
'more_suggestions-populartracks.scope', 'music-
I am not using Ubuntu anymore because of this. It started with UbuntuOne and
reporting my IP
and now it went to Ubuntu not serving to the user and customer, but to the
interests of external companies, and that is not is a spirit of the word Ubuntu.
So I stopped recommending Ubuntu to anyone, aft
I don't think this is quite an invasion of privacy, but this is still
just "clunky" feeling. Why not have a dedicated lens for shopping? I
would love to have a lens with a generic bag which shows me products
from Amazon, eBay, Newegg, Tiger Direct, Walmart, etc. That would be
useful. Furthermore, i
Ubuntu has won an anti-privacy award for their dubious practices:
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/10/ubuntu-wins-big-brother-austria-privacy-award
Are you really not going to rethink your position?
Sad to see how a project like Ubuntu gives a bad reputation to FOSS software.
It's a slap in the fa
I am immediately stopping my recommendations for using Ubuntu, and
actively recommending against it based on this invasive and backhanded
leaking of private information without an appropriate opt-in and
explanation. Ubuntu, you failed, and now you pay the consequences.
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I've alwys suspected the sort of thing the Snowden documents on PRISM,
etc prove. That's why I removed Unity when this issue came up. It was
replaced in my backup DE list with a Cairo-dock/Compiz session. For my
main DE I use Cinnamon, but Unity with all scopes removed MIGHT be safe.
Trouble is, fo
I agree completely with vexorian with this issue. In light of PRISM, I
now have even greater aversion to recommending Ubuntu to a new Linux
user.
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Given recent revelations , I think the discussion regarding the ethics
leaving some scopes in the default and even their inclusion in the
repositories repositories should be revisited.
If you want me to be more explicit:
- We know that youtube is part of PRISM.
- We don't know if Amazon joined P
Colin: Comment #167 says nothing about it defaulting to off.
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Recent posters please read comment #167. The plan is there to sort it,
it just has not yet been implemented yet.
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I filed a bug that presents an alternative to the current shopping lens:
Allow users to add Amazon accounts to "Online Accounts", then present
results based on the presence of the account.
I believe this is an over-all better framework because it's opt-in and
can scale to other online retailers (e
Could some one create an package that would replace the default home
lens with an home lens that does local search only by default ?
Would that be an idea ?
Would rather have seen the other options afcause..
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To record a few of those 'things to do after installing Ubuntu'
articles. Disabling the Amazon results is:
Number 8 in
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-13-04
Number 2 in
http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/7-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu.html
Number 6
I'm quite surprised this issue has not been taken care of by now. When
it first surfaced I almost ignored it because I thought for sure enough
noise will be made to reverse this decision. I fully understand the
business side of it, but it really is far from logical when you look at
it from the end
Mark Shuttleworth (sabdfl) wrote on 2013-02-17: #6
Here's how we are going to handle this:
* We will make a very bold, clear way for you to turn on and off
network queries across ALL scopes for any given session in the dash.
Think about this like the 'anonymous' mode in your browser. Tog
some news on the issue on omg ubuntu ,
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/02/ubuntu-dash-to-add-private-incognito-
mode-add-legal-notice-to-installer , makes it more difficult, i think ,
why the rather simple step of removing shopping searches from the home
lens is not choosen still unclear. But more
this is not an duplicate of :
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-shopping/+bug/1065720
it might look so in first review, but its not, could some one please remove
that link ?
Don't include remote searches in the home lens , is still the topic, shopping
lens should not by defau
No, canonical needs more money.
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any movement in the right direction ?
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Importance: Undecided
Status: New
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so its a dead end right now, because one person has moved it to wishlist , the
bug should be submitted in an other form.
somethins like , `nautilus shows the home icon as local , dash should do the
same .. , show local search results only from design point of view`?
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To reiterate my perspective as the person who filed this bug: there's a
mass of critical commentary elsewhere on the web, and I wanted to ensure
that this translated into a polite, factual discussion in a location
where Ubuntu developers can't skip over it.
The reasons I think this default is a ba
It's clear that we need a separate local home lens (that searches all
local sources) and one global one that searches both local and remote
sources. This is because it might be that you want to do both at
different times and don't want to turn off and on the privacy option
each time.
Maybe make it
Problem for the moment with the opt-out is that it's global : if we turn
off in the Privacy options, it turns off the Dash home ALL internet
searches, not only shopping ones...
Perhaps I want to see by default in home the Gwibber lens results but
not Amazon ones, and if I have something to buy, I
its not a wishlist, its critical.
the report is here for a lot of reasons. When you look at nautilus, you
again see the home folder, it shows what it should show, a local,
personal folder, in the dash from all points of view it should do the
same thing, show local results only. Its that simple. I
John, separate issues need separate bugs. With 157 comments, this bug
report is already well past long enough to be useful. A bug requesting
the shopping feature be opt-in should be only about that issue and not
about whether remote searches show in the home lens.
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Guys, I would continue to set this so hard onto critical importance over
and over again until I'm banned from ever using LP again if it achieved
anything. I'm sorry that there's nothing we can do to stop this madness.
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Jeremy: You well know that oftentimes a bug title doesn't sum up the
entirety of the report itself. And in this case, the report proposes an
alternative solution to the one stated in the title:
"To anticipate one likely response: I understand that this feature can
be removed by uninstalling the pa
Jeremy: The difference between the Dash and, say, Google Now is that one
typically does not use Google Now to launch applications or find local
files (I don't know if that's even possible). Siri typically doesn't do
as much of those things either; it can launch apps, but since iOS
doesn't (without
John, sorry the bug title is about showing remote results in the Dash
home, not about whether it should be opt-out or opt-in or whether there
should be an installer question asking what users want.
Kirils, the shopping lens didn't exist until 12.10 so technically it's
impossible for this to be a r
That is quite true. Most people also want flash, but it's an optional
check-box during installation process. Why not add another one.
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Jeremy: I remind you that the original report and many comments here
aren't pushing exclusively for total removal of online results from the
Home lens, rather they're also suggesting a compromise position between
that and the current status quo: make this feature opt-in. I haven't
seen a statement
Northrup, I'm not responsible for the Unity design nor am I really
taking sides.
It's important to understand the Unity design if you want to influence
those that do make the decisions. The design as I understand is that you
should be able to open the Dash by either clicking the first button in
th
This can't be "wishlist": This was working correctly in 12.04 so it's
clearly a REGRESSION.
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Jeremy: the fact that the Shopping Lens is opt-out instead of opt-in is
precisely why this bug exists. Is there some reason why shopping
results (or, better yet, web searches in general) couldn't be relegated
to their own separate lens icon in the Dash? Are users honestly using
the Dash's Home Le
Chauncellor, please don't mark bugs as Critical unless they meet the
criteria at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance
I'm setting this to Wishlist since it would be somewhat a new feature
for the shopping lens to not put results in the home lens.
This probably is actually a WONTFIX item since
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Ubuntu is a big gal now. 2 am, Johannesburg's streets are steaming hot.
With her new gloss on, still frail on high heels, shopping bag in hands,
Ubuntu walks slowly in circles around the side walk. Not before long,
one of these old 70's mercedes stops by with a long squeaking sound. The
driver asks
I to agree that this is a blatent disregard to user privacy and
basically goes against what Richard Stallman and others wanted for the
Free Open Source Software Movement ages ago. GNU at it's heart. I feel
it should be an "opt in" versus and "opt out" by default. Please fix
this issue, until then I
Richard Stallman has commented on this: http://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms
/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do
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I agree with last comment, both are possible : please shopping lens
installed and active by default, with Amazon and future new partners,
but opt-in (disabled by default) for the results in the Dash home, with
possibility to choice exactly our parameters : which lenses results do
we want added
I must also echo the trend of comments here; please make this opt-in...
and even better, provide the choice and details in a dialog upon
installation.
This would be nice and transparent, giving the user the choice from the
start and therefore probably also more likely to trust Canonical than
maybe
So apparently there is this popular fork of Ubuntu, called Mint at
linuxmint.com which is quite popular and has a growing developer base.
Oh, and they also do not spy on people. I switched over and will be
contributing through their project now.
Still I think it is appropriate to thank Ubuntu and
Crap, I posted prematurely.
Anyway, based on the screenshot attached to my previous post, the
Brainstorm idea is clearly *not* implemented. So I suppose this remains
the most viable location, since it appears that criticism of Canonical's
precious Unity is unwelcome there.
Regardless, until this
I posted up an idea on Ubuntu Brainstorm about this, which I figure
would be a better vector for such things:
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/30415/
Unfortunately, the moderation staff doesn't agree, and marked it as
"already implemented".
** Attachment added: "Screenshot of Dash Home Lens sea
Using an opt-out strategy on a feature like this is insidious and an
insult to Ubuntu users intelligence.
It's the kind of bullsh*t I'd expect from Microsoft, not Canonical.
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I prefer opt-in. Private searches may be compromised. I opt for removal
of this item and have it placed on some sort of a visibile specific
shopping dash.
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I strongly believe that this should be opt-in. There should not even be
such package installed before consulting the user.
If it's impossible to fix this, we should probably fork the whole
project and think of a good name. But it would require a sizeable
maintainer team. So there's a problem.
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Agreed, this should be opt-in. Remove this lens from the default install
- it does not belong there. Not even a PROMPT belongs there - Ubuntu is
free software, not adware, not spyware.
If we wanted our base OS to advertise to us, we'd use Windows 8.
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This is extremely serious. I haven't been able to recommend Ubuntu 12.10
to new users because of the privacy implications of this feature.
My ideal solution:
1. Prompt the user when installing whether or not they would like to
install amazon's search feature.
2. Prompt whether or not they would
'What EFF Wants From Ubuntu ... Disable "Include online search results" by
default. '
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https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/10/privacy-ubuntu-1210-amazon-ads-and-data-leaks
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It seems Ubuntu forgot the meaning of Ubuntu (from:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(philosophy)
- "Ubuntu ... is an African ethic or humanist philosophy focusing on people's
allegiances and relations with each other."
- "I am what I am because of who we all are."
- "Ubuntu does not mean tha
This feature causes all community members to violate the code of
conduct. Bug report:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dash/+bug/1070598
I have deleted all my Ubuntu installations and replaced them with
Debian.
This is a massive shift - never before have I seen an open source
project wi
Quoting #129:
> All of these should come with default settings for maximum privacy when a
> live disk/
> image boots up, and clear instructions to new users to check these settings
> and
> set them to their liking.
This is an important point.
Ubuntu needs to adopt a global "Privacy by Default"
In 12.10 as released, the home lens IS configurable, I've tested this
myself on a live flash drive. It works, Amazon searches appear with
remote search on and do not appear with it turned off. The issue as of
now is rather that the default setting is to return commercial/network
results, and the u
I upgraded 12.10, donated some money to Ubuntu, and ran `sudo apt-get
remove unity-lens-shopping`
I’m not against a monetization strategy with Amazon as a partner. I’m
not even against remote searches. I am, however, totally against remote
searches in the home lens.
I am open to compromise. The h
Thats it i am installing Mint now by default. If i want Bloatware i can also
install shitty windows from an OEM disk with "may i help you to buy new printer
ink notifications". Thanks for ruining ubuntu!
I undestand that they want to get more money for developing Unity Lenses like
Ubuntu TV and
It's possible I misinterpreted things.
I have no problem with experimental prototypes being kept secret when
there's no guarantee that they'll ever make it into a release and more
options for community collaboration are always good.
My only problem with it is that I got the impression Shuttlewort
That's somewhat disingenuous. Parts of Ubuntu are already developed in
secret - integrated webapps or the HUD weren't announced until there was
already a functioning prototype. This shopping lens was kept pretty
quiet until it was ready to land. As Shuttleworth points out, criticism
happens wheneve
I get the impression Shuttleworth might have seen our response to this
ill-designed feature as the last straw:
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/138200-key-parts-of-ubuntu-13-04
-will-be-developed-in-secret-to-escape-the-critics-ire
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Please fix this. Ubuntu is becoming more important than ever. Now is a
really bad time to make a mistake this big and pretend it's not just a
mistake. I don't care if Amazon integration is included, but if it's
obtrusive, something is very, very wrong.
Opt-in or not at all.
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Responding to Mario Vukelic in # 118: "And what are you talking about
'a new user who has yet to learn to use the terminal to remove the
shopping lens'? There is a switch in Privacy settings now."
Example: When I first set my sister's laptop up with Ubuntu, it took her
quite a while to learn to a
Responding to Mario's comments in #118:
"And what are you talking about 'a new user who has yet to learn to use
the terminal to remove the shopping lens'? There is a switch in Privacy
settings now."
The new privacy settings switch as currently implemented is a poor
workaround because it's all-or-
Ugh. Correction: "as opt-out rather than opt-in"
I really need to stop checking my e-mail just before I go to bed.
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Mario, that doesn't address a lot of the concerns.
If the commenters on the Mozilla bug I previously mentioned are to be
believed, you're on legally shaky ground in Germany just sending the
Home lens searches over the web as opt-in rather than opt-out,
regardless of how you encrypt them and whethe
Could people please stop misusing this bug report as their personal
blog, and at the very least try to be up to date before making comments?
Several of the concerns expressed in the past few comments have been
addressed in Cristian Parrino's blog post. Cristian is Canonical's Vice
President Online
That is one UGLY screenshot. I hope people upgrading to 12.10 and
keeping the "ubuntu-desktop" package don't get stuck with the shopping
lens. Unity needs to lose weight anyway. and on top of all else two of
the last three comments raised legal issues. According to those posts,
Ubuntu would become
This is a screenshot of what you get when you type something with no
local hits. I was trying to get to a package manager in a fresh install
of Quantal beta 2 yesterday, typed "packages", and got this. A screen
full of 24 ads.
I did not click "more suggestion". You get fewer ads if you actually
If this useless feature will not became an opt-in feature Canonical will
violate the European »Convention for the Protection of Individuals with
regard to Automatic Processing of Personal Data«. I hope for legal
consequences.
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In Sweden, it's illegal to present targeted advertisement if the
intended receiver of that information is under 18 years of age. My son
uses his computer unattended and I have to say I'm really disappointed
that it's Canonical I'll have to report to authorities for lurking in
adverts to my kids.
-
This is beyond serious. I use Ubuntu in a high security, fully encrytped
environment. I prefer to limit Internet access to programs I intend to
use online, which in my case is browsers, wget, tor, and apt only.
Remote searches should be limited to running from the browser in my
opinion.
Since I d
This is certainly not a duplicate of bug #1054746. I just tested that
change in Ubutnu 12.10 beta and it's an all or nothing solution.
Flick this new switch to OFF, the Video Lense and Music Lense results
become local only, no longer searching YouTube or the Music Store like
it does now in 12.04,.
** This bug is no longer a duplicate of bug 1054746
[FFe] [UIFe] No easy way to disable online-fetched results in lenses
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1054746
This is really not a duplicate.
First of all the dash is the most basic function to interact with my OS.
Therefore I expect only search results related to my files and
applications residing on my local hard
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1054746 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1054746
I don't believe that this is a duplicate - this bug is that the lens is
enabled (and in the home lens) by default, so it is not fixed by adding
an option to disable it. However, it's clear that this is not g
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1054746 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1054746
Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make
Ubuntu better. This particular bug has already been reported and is a
duplicate of bug 1054746, so it is being marked as such. Please look
Why Amazon search is placed into "Home" lens ??? As for me there only
can be two separate lenses - "Home" and "Amazon and something else
online"
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off by default + notification of features and available settings +
switch in privacy settings dialog + separate lens, and we're friends
again.
maybe a dialog box during install with an explanation and an initial
setting:
We have a shopping lens
I concur with the need for a TOS screen.
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When I noticed this feature in Quantal my first reaction was: have they
gone crazy? I do hope they will decide to make this feature an opt-in,
not an opt-out.
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@jack6543: Assigning yourself to a bug means that you're in a position
to fix it, which it doesn't look like you are. If you want to subscribe
to it, the link is in the bar on the right.
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> Apparently Amazon DOES get your IP address and enough data to statistically
> infer your query when a search is performed.
> http://benjaminkerensa.com/2012/09/25/technical-diagram-of-how-unity-shopping-lens-likely-works
I've written about this here: https://perot.me/ubuntu-privacy-blunder-
ove
It needs to be opt-in, or there needs to be a ToS screen that details
what this service does and how to disable it.
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Just to update everyone subscribing to this bug: it appears work is
being done on an option to disable remote results without having to
remove packages. This could make it into 12.10. I'd rather they were
disabled by default, but I'm pleased that the Ubuntu developers are
making changes in response
Could we at least very explicitly tell the user that Unity has this and
other premium features that we don't know of? Also suggest users who
don't want any premium service from Canonical to try out Xubuntu or
Debian?
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Apparently Amazon DOES get your IP address and enough data to
statistically infer your query when a search is performed.
http://benjaminkerensa.com/2012/09/25/technical-diagram-of-how-unity-
shopping-lens-likely-works
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If this feature not will be changed to an opt in feature, concerning
privacy Canonical will become even worse than Microsoft, Apple and
Google together. I would never ever use or recommend it again. It is
absolutely unacceptable, that the string I am searching for on my
computer is being send to
Regrettably, for me this is potentially a deal-breaker, which is sad
given that I've been an Ubuntu user and supporter for many years. I
could of course trivially remove this feature, but what this indicates
to me is the overall direction in which Canonical is taking things, and
it's a direction w
Keeping in theme with the lense Metaphor, I propose:
* Macro Lense *
Put whatever you want in here, including Amazon searches and whatever else is
appropriate to represent “everything.”
* Micro Lense *
Same as the current home in 12.04; Show as many internal data sources as
possible but no 3rd
I have trusted my "root" to Canonical since the Hoary days. However if
this trust is (mis)used to funnel my local, private searches into the
internet and display obtrusive ads on my desktop - I have had it!
I really hope this will be an opt-in feature before 12.10 is released...
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I would be interested in Amazon's view on this... In their conditions of use
(Amazon UK), in section 17 they say explicitly:
"...If you are under 18 you may use the Amazon Services only with the
involvement of a parent or guardian.".
For me, sending a search query (even if doing this by a third
If they'd just put it in its own lens and let us choose what scopes appear in
the home lens, the issue would be fixed. Not only would it keep us from seeing
suggestions and sending data in the main dash hub if we don't want to, but it
would allow other people who DO want that to keep it there. I
When I am searching my computer for a program or document, I am not
looking to buy anything (not that typing 'pidgin' or some other program
name will turn up anything useful in Amazon). Separate the home lens
from a shopping lens, and don't send my local queries across the network
unless I explicit
Stephan: All good points, but the question is now that Mark has said his
piece on the matter, are we talking to a brick wall?
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