[Bug 228183] Re: Please remove broken reportbug from Ubuntu

2008-12-10 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package reportbug - 3.47ubuntu1 --- reportbug (3.47ubuntu1) jaunty; urgency=low * Merge from debian unstable, remaining changes: - Make reportbug stop working for bts=ubuntu and refer to "ubuntu-bug" instead (LP: #228183, #123414) - reportbug:

[Bug 228183] Re: Please remove broken reportbug from Ubuntu

2008-12-10 Thread Daniel Hahler
I will change reportbug, so that it only works with bts=debian and add instructions/notes in the package description and error message (in case of bts=ubuntu), referring to "ubuntu-bug" and mentioning that it's only useful for reporting bugs to Debian (in case you know what you are doing). As fa

Re: [Bug 228183] Re: Please remove broken reportbug from Ubuntu

2008-09-04 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
To get the package removed, ubuntu-archive needs to be subscribed. They are the ones who can remove the package, and who have the last word on the subject. I agree ideally reportbug should be extended to work with Launchpad, but until someone does that work, I think there's no sense in having it s

Re: [Bug 228183] Re: Please remove broken reportbug from Ubuntu

2008-09-04 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 16:12, auspex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm frankly astounded at Santo's statement that we need to contact I think you're referring to me (it would be pleasant to have it spelled correctly) > somebody _else_ to get this fixed. If that's the situation, what on > earth is

[Bug 228183] Re: Please remove broken reportbug from Ubuntu

2008-09-04 Thread auspex
I'm frankly astounded at Santo's statement that we need to contact somebody _else_ to get this fixed. If that's the situation, what on earth is even the point of having Launchpad! THIS is where solutions are supposed to be discussed and found. I, of course, agree with Antony. It's simply not tr

[Bug 228183] Re: Please remove broken reportbug from Ubuntu

2008-09-03 Thread Antony Gelberg
Lucas, It's useful to developers, who are roughly what percentage of the Ubuntu user-base? And who surely know how to manually install a package from Debian? Besides surely, if they want to report a Debian bug, can't they just use reportbug from their Debian install? Besides, IT IS BROKEN AS SH

[Bug 228183] Re: Please remove broken reportbug from Ubuntu

2008-09-03 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
FWIW, I agree with Sarah Hobbs and Brian Murray wrote above. I don't think reportbug should be removed. - it's useful to Ubuntu developers. - removing it won't solve the problem for users who already have it installed. so it should be "fixed", by adding a message that says that it mustn't be used

Re: [Bug 228183] Re: Please remove broken reportbug from Ubuntu

2008-09-03 Thread Sandro Tosi
> I used a strong word ("stupid"), but I didn't mean it to apply to you. I didn't take that as personal :) > The process itself is clearly pathological. So far, no Ubuntu person > has demonstrated the authority and decisiveness to simply remove the > broken, harmful component while we work on fi

Re: [Bug 228183] Re: Please remove broken reportbug from Ubuntu

2008-09-03 Thread Sandro Tosi
> Zooko summed it up well enough, are any Ubuntu release-team developers > reading this? Don't hope for any of them to look at it and ne pro-active: contact them and ask for its removal. Too much time has been wasted (this email thread come to me from Jul 6 on) talking instead of doing. Sandro -

[Bug 228183] Re: Please remove broken reportbug from Ubuntu

2008-09-03 Thread Zooko O'Whielacronx
Sandro: I used a strong word ("stupid"), but I didn't mean it to apply to you. I assume that you are just now joining this conversation and are not aware that we've been going round and round on this for years (literally, years -- I first opened a bug report which was a predecessor to this bug rep

[Bug 228183] Re: Please remove broken reportbug from Ubuntu

2008-09-03 Thread Antony Gelberg
Sandro, I don't think your comments are especially helpful, sort of standing at the side of the discussion sniping. The package is broken, hence not useful, without specific developer knowledge that most users don't have. That is the point. Fixing it would be a good idea (duh!), but while it's b

Re: [Bug 228183] Re: Please remove broken reportbug from Ubuntu

2008-09-03 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 15:28, Zooko O'Whielacronx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Argh! > > Sandro: you have just, 25 minutes ago, begun the Nth iteration of this > stupid process. The only stupid thing here is removing a useful package instead of fixing it. Sandro -- Sandro Tosi (aka morph, Morph

[Bug 228183] Re: Please remove broken reportbug from Ubuntu

2008-09-03 Thread Zooko O'Whielacronx
Argh! Sandro: you have just, 25 minutes ago, begun the Nth iteration of this stupid process. This package has been wasting the time of users for years now, perhaps since the first ever release of Ubuntu. Every time someone asks Ubuntu to stop shipping it on the grounds that not only does it fail

Re: [Bug 228183] Re: Please remove broken reportbug from Ubuntu

2008-09-03 Thread Sandro Tosi
> but /usr/bin/reportbug has to go. [8<] > It's just plain rude to stick a tool on a naive user's system, tell him > it does something other than what it really does, but keep it around > just because the real experts know how to work around it. Why not fix it, instead? Sandro -- Sandro Tosi (a

[Bug 228183] Re: Please remove broken reportbug from Ubuntu

2008-09-03 Thread auspex
Then keep a package with querybts, and you can even call it reportbug if you want - but /usr/bin/reportbug has to go. As long as it's there, people will be sending bug reports to the ubuntu mailing lists, believing they're doing their part to improve the world, and ticking off the folks on the lis

[Bug 228183] Re: Please remove broken reportbug from Ubuntu

2008-09-02 Thread Brian Murray
The reportbug package also includes the tool querybts which is quite useful for establishing relationships between Ubuntu and Debian bug reports. It'd be unfortunate to have that removed. -- Please remove broken reportbug from Ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/228183 You received this bug n

[Bug 228183] Re: Please remove broken reportbug from Ubuntu

2008-07-06 Thread Antony Gelberg
Sarah, the fact that Ubuntu developers want to use it to file bugs in Debian is neither here nor there. It's broken, and most users aren't developers. By default, it doesn't file bugs to Debian on an Ubuntu system. Bugs can be filed in Debian in other ways, and developers should know enough to b

[Bug 228183] Re: Please remove broken reportbug from Ubuntu

2008-07-06 Thread Zooko O'Whielacronx
I already posted this message to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/reportbug/+bug/123414 , but I am sufficiently angry about years and years passing with no improvement in this situation that I am going to repeat myself here: I just tried to use reportbug 3.39ubuntu3 on Hardy, and it obscu

[Bug 228183] Re: Please remove broken reportbug from Ubuntu

2008-05-17 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Another problem with removing it is that users that installed 8.04 and have it installed will continue to file bugs to Debian (see LP bug #229847). It's better to update it, make it display a message about filing bug to launchpad, but let people who know what they are doing use it to file bugs dire

[Bug 228183] Re: Please remove broken reportbug from Ubuntu

2008-05-16 Thread Sarah Hobbs
Please fix it, instead of removing it. A lot of us file legitimate bugs to debian with it. Perhaps create a message about reportbug being deprecated for Ubuntu, and an offer to launch apport, or something, or to specify a bug tracker. -- Please remove broken reportbug from Ubuntu https://bugs.l

[Bug 228183] Re: Please remove broken reportbug from Ubuntu

2008-05-10 Thread Scott
I thought I'd asked for this eons ago in different bug reports. Agreed. reportbug serves no purpose whatsoever. What's the point of having a package that doesn't work at all? Not only does it not work, but it leads many to believe that it does (by it's very existence). And how the Ubuntu users m