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I don't think it is going to be patched by upstream considering
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Hi All, does anyone now how to get it to work on Oneiric with Evolution
3.2? Should we still use Geoff's PPA or has it landed in the mainline?
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Thanks Geoff, I really hope so but I don't have much faith in upstream
(given that it hasn't landed upstream in 2 years)
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Just a heads up, I've moved over to Gnome 3 so I won't be maintaining my
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On 6 May 2011, at 13:59, Geoff Goehle 460...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
Just an update:
I installed the patched indicator on three different machines and
haven't had any trouble with the indicator functionality. I've also
been in contact with Alin and
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On 4 May 2011, at 14:23, Geoff Goehle 460...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
I was just about to post that I figured out the autoconf weirdness and
updated the ppa. An updated indicator applet should be available in
the
usual way:
sudo
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On 4 May 2011, at 15:37, Alin Andrei 460...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
Yes, I'm using Unity. And it looks like I'm not the only one:
http://www.webupd8.org/2011/05/patched-evolution-indicator-which.html
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@Geoff: I see the PPA has been updated and Evolution does close to the
Messaging Menu but the Messaging Menu icon doesn't notify of new
emails
anymore.
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Just thought I would put an update here since the new ubuntu is out.
Good News: Unity has been cleaned up to the point where my previous
code now works as intended. Evolution runs
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Just an update:
I installed the patched indicator on three different machines and
haven't had any trouble with the indicator functionality. I've also
been in contact with Alin and he tells me that he can't get the
indicator functionality to work with the unmodified applet. So I'm
going to
@Geoff: I see the PPA has been updated and Evolution does close to the
Messaging Menu but the Messaging Menu icon doesn't notify of new emails
anymore.
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I was just about to post that I figured out the autoconf weirdness and
updated the ppa. An updated indicator applet should be available in the
usual way:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:goehle/goehle-ppa
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
As for the notification... thats a mystery. It still
Yes, I'm using Unity. And it looks like I'm not the only one:
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Just thought I would put an update here since the new ubuntu is out.
Good News: Unity has been cleaned up to the point where my previous
code now works as intended. Evolution runs in the background with no
icon on the sidebar. I was even able to get the hide evolution on
startup feature
@Geoff,
Even with Unity, Ubuntu will still have the Messaging Menu and I don't
want Evolution cluttering the launcher all the time, just like I don't
want it cluttering my Docky right now in Maverick. So I can assure you
that I'll still use your patch in Natty, regardless of it being
officially
@Conscious User
Wow, Natty is just around the corner. I'll have to see if I can get my
patch to work with unity. (Its a pain because unity doesn't work with
virtualbox because of the 3d acceleration and I like to code on a
virtual machine.)
What do you mean by play nicely? I haven't been
Geoff, unity seems to work with virtualbox 4 it seems ;)
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Wow, Natty is just around the corner. I'll have to see if I can get my
patch to work with unity. (Its a pain because unity doesn't work
Yes, that page was removed. I submitted the code to the official
evolution-indicator repository as a branch. You can find the link up
top. However that just has source code and diffs. if you are looking
for precompiled packages to download it from my ppa (instructions on
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Thank you for your patience, Geoff!
I should have browsed a little more before crying.. :-)
BTW: I recomplied on my own the plugin with your changes and it's working very
well.
I must say that this is the behaviour I was expecting from evolution since the
installation!
Thank you very
Hi all,
I tried to have a look to Geoff's code (on post #96) but I always get a
'Page not found' error.
Is it normal?
May I find that code somewhere else?
I just would like to see if I can use it on a 'it works for me' basis,
because I'm afraid the official change will take SOME time to
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I haven't heard of any problems with the patched code in a while now so
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a branch in the evolution-indicator at
https://code.launchpad.net/~goehle/evolution-indicator/MinimizeToApplet.
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Fixed may be a bit of an overstatement... I ended up removing the
option, at least in the code I am providing for this bugfix. I probably
shouldn't have included it in this patch anyway since it doesn't address
the bug as stated. If this ends up being accepted, and if there is
interest in a
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Geoff, you've done great work here! I really like the idea of squashing
this bug and your enthusiasm for doing it. But I see two blockers to
merging it as-is:
1) As Vish says though, we need to get some sort of buy-in from Neil or
Matthew on the design side.
2) I don't actually see a patch or
Hey, got a couple of emails about this, so I thought I would update on
the bug page. There actually haven't been any bugs reported on the
project page and I haven't had or heard of any problems with the patched
code. So I would say that the modified version of evolution-indicator
is more or
I'm lost here... I thought Unity used the indicator-applet. If this is
indeed the case, how does the fact that Ubuntu uses Unity change
anything wrt this bug?
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Geoff, there was a uds session about the related topic so i think there
are good chances for your patch.
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Well, the patch doesn't play particularly nicely with unity right now.
That could certainly be fixed. The bigger issue is that in unity when
you minimize evolution it minimizes to the launcher icon. (Think Mac
OSX.) So it makes this feature unnecessary and the whole evolution
running in the
For me, what's really important is that Evolution is launched
automatically on startup, like gwibber and empathy, and that closing
it keeps it alive so that you can still get mail notification. I doubt
Unity can do all that without a patched indicator-applet, but I could be
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Thanks Geoff for the hard work!
However, I think I've just found a new bug with the updated version: if
I open a message in a new window, then try to close it (using the close
button in the title bar), evolution's main window that disappears
instead of the message window (which remains opened).
As for the problem with evolution starting with its mai, window visible
on computer boot, I noticed that, when I check launch evolution on
start, it adds an entry in startup applications with the command
evolution %U. Shouldn't there be some special flag to prevent the
window from being displayed
Julien: New bug fixed... You should be able to close message windows
(and hopefully any other extra windows) normally now.
As for the special flag, if only it were that simple. The evolution
devs are pretty adamant about not adding a windowless mode to
evolution so there is no such flag.
Geoff: I just tested it, and I confirm it's fixed. Thanks again!
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Seriously, people, the bug spam is getting out of hand. I'm getting a
gazillion Emails per day that have nothing to do with fixing this bug.
I would like to remind you that this is a bug filed against evolutions
indicator applet, NOT Geoffs patch set that, despite working as well as
it does, is
@Marcus
Sorry to spam you even more with stupid questions, but what exactly makes Geoff
an unacceptable solution to this bug? It fixes this bug, and no one else seems
to provide any alternate solution...
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Excellent solution! For me it's wonderful, it does what I expected from
evolution-indicator.
Thank you, Geoff. Thank you one more time and have a nice day.
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As suggested I created a project page for the patch code
(https://launchpad.net/evolution-indicator-wmtaf). Bugs concerning the
packages hosted on my ppa can be reported there.
On the other hand the patched code is intended to implement the close to
tray functionality described in the bug report
Hi Geoff,
I've just tested it and it works great, apart from one thing: if I
uncheck show evolution on startup, the window is still visible the
first time it is launched.
Another thing: is it normal that, although the window is visible, it
doesn't appear in the window list?
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@Geoff Goehle,
Have you tried contacting the author of the plugin? [Neil J Patel] ?
or Matthew Paul Thomas regarding the design ?
Once it is according to the designs, your patch can be included into the
evolution-indicator plugin itself.
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Hi Geoff - thank you! I hope your patch will be included in evolution-
indicator.
I've just installed your patch and wanted to confirm what Julien Olivier
wrote: When the Evolution window is visible it doesn't appear in the
window list.
And there's also another problem: When you want to compose
Thanks for the feedback! I've updated the repository with some bug
fixes. Evolution should reappear on the taskbar and in the pager after
you restore it and you should be able to compose-close evolution-send
without evolution quitting on you.
Show at startup works on one of my machines and
Geoff, this is really excellent what you've done here! Can't thank you
enough!
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why Geoff's patch isn't implemented in maverick ?
it's very strange.
@ Geoff, I used your ppa in lucid... I wait for you to use it in maverick
thanks for your job
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Well, good news everyone. Turns out there were some significant
upgrades to evolution from lucid to maverick. Because of that I've been
able to implement all of the features I had working in lucid *entirely*
within the evolution-indicator package without any sort of hackery.
Hopefully this makes
You rock Geoff! I just installed it and it works great.
Thanks!
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This hasn't been implemented in Maverick, which is mildly dissapointing
:(
As soon as I get some spare time I'll make the necessary changes and
upload to my repositiory.
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Works also for me, thank you Geoff!
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This is the only reason that keeps me using Thunderbird + Lightning +
Firetray plugin. I really like Evolution but not closing to tray is
something that irritates me. I hope this bug get fixed for Maverick.
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Excellent work! Will this work on evolution 2.30?
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Now that there is a working fix in this bug report, is it worth
reassigning back to the 100 Paper Cuts project so we can have this
implemented for Maverick?
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Just an update...
I've uploaded the latest evolution to my ppa with the necessary signal
emit changes, so evolution shouldn't need to be manually installed now.
(At least until its updated again.)
Also, just for kicks, I've implemented the suggestion about running at
startup and hiding when
Now everything is working properly ;) - thanks.
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Reynaldo, what you propose is a workaround but whats provided above is the
solution :D
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Reynaldo Matos Hortensi
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hi!
Another workaround is: sudo apt-get install alltray alltray evolution
(previous account configuration to
Omer Akram, I'm sorry. You're right.
People are talking about cGmail... and I talk about my workaround.
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Reynaldo, read comment # 42 thats more than a workaround :)
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I have read it before and I have already agreed whith you.
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hi!
Another workaround is: sudo apt-get install alltray alltray evolution
(previous account configuration to work)
It works like a charm for me.
Cheers,
Reynaldo
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Thanks, cGmail helped a lot!
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There is a temporary way around until they fix this..
Install cGmail and use it.
And in its preferencesAdvancedCommandsExec this command on new mails, enter
evolution --online without the quotes..
Check the options to start application on ubuntu startup. It will start
and checks when you go
Geoff, could you make a patch that makes Evolution open in the
indicator-applet so that it can be run at startup and notify?
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Hey,
This usability bug also bothered me and after some searching and finding only
half solutions I found this.
I really like your fix!
I had to install the debs separately, after first uninstalling evolution
though, because the package management apparently reports it as being
older than the
At the moment I think the developers of evolution don't want to implement this
kind of fix. Seems like they have another idea of how the indicator should be
used, but still then their visions are not aligned with the devs of empathy and
gwibber. Seems like the folks at Gnome might want to work
That's actually Geoff's fix, not mine. ;-)
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Never mind, subscriber messages are confusing...
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btw when using 'unity' evolution icon stays even on close, it seems like
it detects it as being minimized on pressing close button (using evo
from Geoff's ppa).
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Omer: I installed unity from the canonical-dx-team/une ppa and I can't
seem to reproduce your issue. Maybe its because I'm using the ppa
version of unity?
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apparently it does not remove the icon from unity ( confirmed it is not
bookmarked). I have tried several reboot and also I am also using the
ppa version
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I may be confused as to what unity we are talking about. I thought
maybe I couldn't reproduce your problem because I installed unity on an
existing gnome installation so I tried a usbboot of ubuntu netbook
edition. However, I was unable to reproduce your problem there either.
In both cases the
@Geoff : Thank you very much for your great job, it works very well for
me (Lucid64) :)
But I think these great changes will be erased with the next Evolution update ?
:'(
I wish you will update the version number for the next update, because it would
be easier to install your patches :P
About
@Farliec:
That is a strange bug. For some reason gtk_widget_hide is messing with
the dimensions of the gtk_paned widget used to divide evolution into the
accounts list and everything else. I also end up with the same behavior
if I maximize evolution, resize the accounts list, and then
Confirmed, the version in https://launchpad.net/~goehle/+archive/goehle-
ppa/+packages works fine!
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@Geoff
Just a hint.
To avoid conflicts with the ubuntu main repository, avoid using the same
version number (as you did with evolution package) and also avoid
increasing the ubuntu version number (as you did with evolution-
indicator). This leads to lots of headaches when the official ubuntu
Wagner:
Thanks for the tip :D I realized I had made a poor choice with the
version numbering as soon as the patch started conflicting with the main
repository. I wasn't sure what to do about it though.
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Yes, I confirm that too.
Thank you!
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I can not get this to work.
Doing the:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:goehle/goehle-ppa
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install evolution evolution-indicator
- it still closes when I hit the close button or Crtl-W or Crtl-Q.
Am I missing out of something here?
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darktear: What's happened is that the evolution package in the main
repository now has a version number higher than (or maybe its equal to)
the one in my ppa. This package has priority over mine when you install
via apt-get.
Try this:
1. Go to
I can confirm that this fixes evolution's close window function. Now,
everytime I click on close window, evolution minimizes to the
Chat/Mail/Broadcast applet. Thanks!
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There is a separate email notification evolution applet, but it looks
like crap and requires additional setup...it would be a whole lot nicer
to have it just open and shrink to the notification area with the
chat/social networking applets
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I figured out a way to reliably reset the quit flag. Now evolution will
exit gracefully, whether there is an open window or not. I've updated
the indicator package in my ppa, if you need the .changes.
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I hate to say it but after testing this package for a few weeks I'm
afraid its not going to work as is. The problem is that because of my
tomfoolery with the dont quit flag, evolution doesn't quit cleanly on
logout. This is a problem because evolution might want to do a lot of
important things
Is there anything else I need to do on my end with regards to this bug?
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In my opinion as a tester, no. As far as I'm concerned, you fixed it. :)
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After looking around I've discovered that all of the cool kids use ppa's
to distribute patches. So I've set one up you can install the patches
by:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:goehle/goehle-ppa
sudo apt-get update
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the ppa apparently dont work gives this when I try to update evolution (with
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evolution: Depends: libenchant1c2a (= 1.6) but 1.5.0-0ubuntu5 is to be
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Hmm. This is my first time doing this sort of thing, so I'm just
guessing, but... are you running Lucid?
I just tried to install the updates in a cdboot of Lucid and it seemed
to work.
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Oh, sorry my mistake it seems the package now came in updates.
Ok for the patched evolution, I have one word super its working great.
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Working great for me too, testing in Lucid.
The only issue I'm seeing is that the new Contacts option in the
messaging menu launches another instance of Evolution. A think a better
behavior would be to unhide the current instance and focus on the
contacts view. But I'm not even sure the plugin
Concious: I noticed this as well. To my knowledge the plugin api
doesn't allow you to focus an already open window. Taking a look at the
original evolution-indicator code I see that the contacts menu item
works by using g_spawn to call evolution -c contacts which will,
necessarily, start a new
Geoff, yeah, I think Evolution is simply not designed for using a single
instance.
This limits a lot what can be improved in the indicator plugin in terms
of usability. For example, right now there is one item for each account,
but all items do essentially the same thing which is opening the
True enough. I also think that the plugin api was designed more for
plugins which work within evolution. This is _way_ outside the scope of
this bug, but a lot of these problems could be fixed by adding something
like a dbus interface to evolution. Something that would allow other
programs,
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