[Bug 519891] Re: Lucid breaks every other day; no gui and no tty (ATI 200M)

2010-02-18 Thread Tom Louwrier
apport information ** Tags added: apport-collected ** Description changed: Hi Running Lucid Alpha AMD64 on a Dell 131L laptop with ATI 200M video card. Updates loaded once a day. In the last 2 weeks+ the system breaks every other day, seemingly to do with changes to the video

[Bug 519891] Re: Lucid breaks every other day; no gui and no tty (ATI 200M)

2010-02-18 Thread Tom Louwrier
Tried it. - Installed plymouth and plymouth-x from repos. Never uninstalled libplymouth2 because that threatens to uninstall about all of the rest of my packages, so that was still there and up to date.. - Rebooted, with 'nomodeset' flag. - Saw 2 fsck messages in std screen resolution - Saw the

[Bug 519891] Re: Lucid breaks every other day; no gui and no tty (ATI 200M)

2010-02-18 Thread Steve Langasek
Tom, You wrote: On the ATI 200M machine when I did see the Ubuntu logo I knew it would boot fine. When I didn't I would reach for the power button almost straight away because that meant it was going to hang with the vertical lines or garbled screen. The attached information from apport

[Bug 519891] Re: Lucid breaks every other day; no gui and no tty (ATI 200M)

2010-02-18 Thread Steve Langasek
Ah, seems our messages missed each other in transit. Obviously my system is also bitten by another bug concerning KMS / DRM and (older?) ATI cards. This does not always occurr but more often than not. I use the 'nomodeset' flag to prevent this one. Ok, please file a separate bug report on the

Re: [Bug 519891] Re: Lucid breaks every other day; no gui and no tty (ATI 200M)

2010-02-18 Thread Tom Louwrier
hi Steve. I tried both with and without just now. With KMS (no 'nomodeset') the screen went into vertical lines straight away and I did give that another go. I rebooted again and used 'nomodeset'. I have not put it in my grub.cfg permanently. Since the KMS-related problem is intermittent, I

Re: [Bug 519891] Re: Lucid breaks every other day; no gui and no tty (ATI 200M)

2010-02-18 Thread Tom Louwrier
OK Steve Langasek wrote: Ah, seems our messages missed each other in transit. Obviously my system is also bitten by another bug concerning KMS / DRM and (older?) ATI cards. This does not always occurr but more often than not. I use the 'nomodeset' flag to prevent this one. Ok,

[Bug 519891] Re: Lucid breaks every other day; no gui and no tty (ATI 200M)

2010-02-17 Thread Steve Langasek
Tom, Please install the 0.8.0~-10ubuntu1 version of the plymouth and libplymouth2 packages and run 'apport-collect -p plymouth 519891'. When booting to the garbled screen, please also test whether Alt+SysRq+K successfully resets it for you. -- Lucid breaks every other day; no gui and no tty

[Bug 519891] Re: Lucid breaks every other day; no gui and no tty (ATI 200M)

2010-02-15 Thread Tom Louwrier
hi Steve, Gave Plymouth another try just now. Installed current version from the repository, checked the script you mentioned in #3 (it's the correct one) and rebooted. I saw the blue/white bars, broken up by some messages. After that I got the garbled left hand side of the screen again, the

[Bug 519891] Re: Lucid breaks every other day; no gui and no tty (ATI 200M)

2010-02-15 Thread Lollerke
same bug ?!: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/509273 no tty and the nomodeset solution doesn't work with all the daily live CDs -- Lucid breaks every other day; no gui and no tty (ATI 200M) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/519891 You received this bug

Re: [Bug 519891] Re: Lucid breaks every other day; no gui and no tty (ATI 200M)

2010-02-15 Thread Tom Louwrier
No, not the same bug, but there are probably relations between them. I've been having problems with Plymouth with and without disabling KMS (booting with 'nomodeset') and also the other way around. Uninstalling Plymouth gives me a usable system, but I'm pretty sure that there are issues with

Re: [Bug 519891] Re: Lucid breaks every other day; no gui and no tty (ATI 200M)

2010-02-13 Thread Tom Louwrier
Steve, I will try that and give you feedback, but not the coming week. Right now both ATI and NVidia systems are booting well -and faster!- without Plymouth. It seems there are too many issues related to Plymouth and given the consequences of that (unusable system) I prefer to wait a while or

[Bug 519891] Re: Lucid breaks every other day; no gui and no tty (ATI 200M)

2010-02-10 Thread Tom Louwrier
see also bug 516412 After solving the problems on my wife's laptop (Dell XPS 1530 with a NVidiia, not an ATI card) I decided to try removing Plymouth from my own laptop too. Booted into recovery mode using 'nomodeset' and kicked Plymouth. System restarted fine after that. Uninstalling Plymouth

[Bug 519891] Re: Lucid breaks every other day; no gui and no tty (ATI 200M)

2010-02-10 Thread Tom Louwrier
removing Plymouth solved issue, so confirmed I think. ** Package changed: ubuntu = plymouth (Ubuntu) ** Changed in: plymouth (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- Lucid breaks every other day; no gui and no tty (ATI 200M) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/519891 You received this bug

[Bug 519891] Re: Lucid breaks every other day; no gui and no tty (ATI 200M)

2010-02-10 Thread Steve Langasek
Please try the plymouth-splash.conf job from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/516412/comments/52 and report whether booting works more reliably for you with this version. Also, please mention whether you see the Ubuntu logo before gdm comes up. -- Lucid breaks every other