patches

2011-07-25 Thread Jonathan Riddell
Writing the packaging guide chapter on patching highlighted for me that patches don't always work well with UDD. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-packaging-guide-team/ubuntu-packaging-guide/trunk/view/head:/patches-to-packages.rst (line 90) What are people's favourite tactics for the .pc

Re: Help with ubuntu-docs - removal of firefox-homepage update-alternative

2011-07-25 Thread Matthew East
Hi, Sorry to repeat this, but is anyone at all able to help with the below? We haven't been able to upload any new versions of ubuntu-docs in oneiric until this is resolved. Thanks in advance if you can help. Matt On 20 May 2011 08:23, Matthew East m...@ubuntu.com wrote: I realise that the

Re: What I like least in Ubuntu

2011-07-25 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
On 22.07.2011 10:41, Daniel Holbach wrote: = Development Processes = (2) developer application docs: - too complicated, - unclear expectations Amounts of want-to-be-ubuntu-developer levels and their names are misleading. I wanted to get rights to directly upload my packages and

Re: What I like least in Ubuntu

2011-07-25 Thread Benjamin Drung
Am Montag, den 25.07.2011, 13:01 +0200 schrieb Marcin Juszkiewicz: On 22.07.2011 10:41, Daniel Holbach wrote: = Development Processes = (2) developer application docs: - too complicated, - unclear expectations Amounts of want-to-be-ubuntu-developer levels and their names

Re: What I like least in Ubuntu

2011-07-25 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
On 25.07.2011 13:51, Scott Kitterman wrote: So I applied and (after ~6 weeks) during UDS-O DMB's meeting I got it. Just to understand that what I really needed was 'Per Package Uploader' level. So it edited my wiki page and applied again. Today I would totally skip first phase as from my

Re: Understanding the definitions and expectations of our membership processes

2011-07-25 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
On 20.07.2011 22:11, Jorge O. Castro wrote: Hi everyone, I am confused as to the definition of the different levels of Ubuntu Developers and how that relates to membership in each of the various teams (though probably involves overall project membership as well). According to

Re: Understanding the definitions and expectations of our membership processes

2011-07-25 Thread Benjamin Drung
Am Montag, den 25.07.2011, 16:25 +0200 schrieb Marcin Juszkiewicz: On 20.07.2011 22:11, Jorge O. Castro wrote: Hi everyone, I am confused as to the definition of the different levels of Ubuntu Developers and how that relates to membership in each of the various teams (though probably

Re: What I like least in Ubuntu

2011-07-25 Thread Luke Faraone
On 07/25/2011 10:35 AM, Iain Lane wrote: I just updated that page a bit. It's probably not clear enough that UCD is 'just' Ubuntu Membership granted by the DMB. Please help me out by finding a way to clarify this. It would be clear if we just called it Ubuntu Membership, rather than having a

Re: What I like least in Ubuntu

2011-07-25 Thread Iain Lane
Hi there, On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 01:01:39PM +0200, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: On 22.07.2011 10:41, Daniel Holbach wrote: = Development Processes = (2) developer application docs: - too complicated, - unclear expectations Amounts of want-to-be-ubuntu-developer levels and

lintian build failure

2011-07-25 Thread Benjamin Drung
lintian 2.5.2~git20110720ubuntu1 in oneiric fails to build [1] and I fail to find the reason. Help would be appreciated. It builds fine locally, but it fails on the Ubuntu builder and with pbuilder, but it builds on Debian unstable (both locally and with pbuilder). Two test cases fail with wrong

Re: What I like least in Ubuntu

2011-07-25 Thread Daniel Holbach
Hello everybody, Am 25.07.2011 13:51, schrieb Scott Kitterman: On Monday, July 25, 2011 07:45:50 AM Benjamin Drung wrote: Am Montag, den 25.07.2011, 13:01 +0200 schrieb Marcin Juszkiewicz: On 22.07.2011 10:41, Daniel Holbach wrote: = Development Processes = (2) developer application docs:

Re: What I like least in Ubuntu

2011-07-25 Thread Iain Lane
Hello, On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 05:01:35PM +0200, Daniel Holbach wrote: Hello everybody, Am 25.07.2011 13:51, schrieb Scott Kitterman: On Monday, July 25, 2011 07:45:50 AM Benjamin Drung wrote: Am Montag, den 25.07.2011, 13:01 +0200 schrieb Marcin Juszkiewicz: On 22.07.2011 10:41, Daniel

Re: What I like least in Ubuntu

2011-07-25 Thread Jonathan Carter (highvoltage)
On 25/07/11 10:42 AM, Iain Lane wrote: Amounts of want-to-be-ubuntu-developer levels and their names are misleading. I wanted to get rights to directly upload my packages and when I discussed it with few developers I was told to apply for 'Ubuntu Contributing Developer' (plus some text that

Re: What I like least in Ubuntu

2011-07-25 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, July 25, 2011 11:11:43 AM Iain Lane wrote: Hello, On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 05:01:35PM +0200, Daniel Holbach wrote: Hello everybody, Am 25.07.2011 13:51, schrieb Scott Kitterman: On Monday, July 25, 2011 07:45:50 AM Benjamin Drung wrote: Am Montag, den 25.07.2011, 13:01

Re: What I like least in Ubuntu

2011-07-25 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 7:51 AM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: I think it's a fair point that UCD is confusing.  What it means is Ubuntu member that got their membership based on development contribution and not some other kind.  Do we really need a different name for this?  It

Re: What I like least in Ubuntu

2011-07-25 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Jonathan Carter (highvoltage) jonat...@ubuntu.com wrote: I come across this on a weekly basis and I don't know where it's coming from. I have people at work who fix things all the time and upload it to PPAs and when I ask them why they don't become MOTU so that

Re: What I like least in Ubuntu

2011-07-25 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, July 25, 2011 11:33:52 AM Daniel Holbach wrote: Hello, Am 25.07.2011 17:26, schrieb Scott Kitterman: The DMB is somewhat different than the other non-RMB membership boards because the DMB grants membership based on type of contribution (development) rather than area of

Re: What I like least in Ubuntu

2011-07-25 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, July 25, 2011 11:34:47 AM Mackenzie Morgan wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 7:51 AM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: I think it's a fair point that UCD is confusing. What it means is Ubuntu member that got their membership based on development contribution and not

Re: What I like least in Ubuntu

2011-07-25 Thread Iain Lane
Hiya, On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:59:08AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Monday, July 25, 2011 11:34:47 AM Mackenzie Morgan wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 7:51 AM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: I think it's a fair point that UCD is confusing. What it means is Ubuntu

Re: What I like least in Ubuntu

2011-07-25 Thread Jonathan Carter (highvoltage)
On 25/07/11 11:38 AM, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Jonathan Carter (highvoltage) jonat...@ubuntu.com wrote: I come across this on a weekly basis and I don't know where it's coming from. I have people at work who fix things all the time and upload it to PPAs and

Re: Replacing GIMP

2011-07-25 Thread Jarno Suni
I don't think you waste time installing Xubuntu by additionally complementing it by installing ubuntustudio-graphics. For those who don't use drawing software, downloading and installing Gimp is waste of time and capacity anyway. For me default Xubuntu has never been all I need and I have always

Re: What I like least in Ubuntu

2011-07-25 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: On Monday, July 25, 2011 12:42:49 PM Jonathan Carter (highvoltage) wrote: ... I agree that it is confusing, but I don't think it has to be. The ArchiveReorganisation[1] wiki page hasn't been edited in the last 2

Re: What I like least in Ubuntu

2011-07-25 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, July 25, 2011 02:41:29 PM Mackenzie Morgan wrote: ... There was a discussion about it on IRC last week starting at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/07/18/%23ubuntu-devel.html#t20:43 In particular, this is the part about whether MOTU can or can't touch packages in package sets...

Re: Replacing GIMP

2011-07-25 Thread Pasi Lallinaho
On 07/25/2011 08:23 PM, Bruno Benitez wrote: I do know that there is no such standard image editor but if we never start finding one, or adding one to our apps then we will never have one, I think there should be a standard image editor (pinta/gpaint/nathive http://www.nathive.org//other) a

Re: What I like least in Ubuntu

2011-07-25 Thread Micah Gersten
On 07/25/2011 02:05 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Monday, July 25, 2011 02:41:29 PM Mackenzie Morgan wrote: ... There was a discussion about it on IRC last week starting at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/07/18/%23ubuntu-devel.html#t20:43 In particular, this is the part about whether MOTU can

New information in bugs reported by apport

2011-07-25 Thread Brian Murray
I've recently added a couple of features to apport which modify the information collected when a bug reporter reports a bug about any package. One is the addition of details regarding modified conffiles which are a part of the package about which the bug is being reported. The bug description

Re: What I like least in Ubuntu

2011-07-25 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, July 25, 2011 03:48:38 PM Micah Gersten wrote: On 07/25/2011 02:05 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Monday, July 25, 2011 02:41:29 PM Mackenzie Morgan wrote: ... There was a discussion about it on IRC last week starting at

packageset restrictions and archive reorg (was: Re: What I like least in Ubuntu)

2011-07-25 Thread Micah Gersten
On 07/25/2011 03:46 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Monday, July 25, 2011 03:48:38 PM Micah Gersten wrote: On 07/25/2011 02:05 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Monday, July 25, 2011 02:41:29 PM Mackenzie Morgan wrote: ... There was a discussion about it on IRC last week starting at

Re: packageset restrictions and archive reorg (was: Re: What I like least in Ubuntu)

2011-07-25 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, July 25, 2011 04:52:42 PM Micah Gersten wrote: On 07/25/2011 03:46 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Monday, July 25, 2011 03:48:38 PM Micah Gersten wrote: On 07/25/2011 02:05 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Monday, July 25, 2011 02:41:29 PM Mackenzie Morgan wrote: ... There was

Re: packageset restrictions and archive reorg

2011-07-25 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, July 25, 2011 05:44:21 PM Micah Gersten wrote: On 07/25/2011 04:25 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Monday, July 25, 2011 04:52:42 PM Micah Gersten wrote: On 07/25/2011 03:46 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Monday, July 25, 2011 03:48:38 PM Micah Gersten wrote: On 07/25/2011 02:05

Patch Pilot report, 2011/07/26

2011-07-25 Thread Christopher James Halse Rogers
I tried to do a sweep of the “Needs Fixing” branches in the hope of quickly knocking out some of the noise. Of course, it always takes longer than you think… https://code.launchpad.net/~pro-mathesh812004/ubuntu/oneiric/scim-tables/oneiric/+merge/64119 • Set status to In Progress, noted what the

Re: input/output trouble cause segmentation fault

2011-07-25 Thread Dmitry Andreychuk
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 5:04 AM, eric fs...@att.net wrote: I am hard to find any useful resource about how to use time() as seed to generate random number in web. /* or maybe I not industry enough */ plz help $ man 2 time srand( static_castunsigned int( time(0) ) ); -- Dmitry Andreychuk