Making Studio work with more than one DE

2013-05-21 Thread Len Ovens
This is an interesting project. I have xfce, KDE and LXDE and have looked at unity. I have seen gnome shell, but need to refresh myself on it. Menus first. We have set up a custom menu to organize what threatened to become a very long set of apps in multimedia, but also to show the user new to

Re: Ubuntu Touch: Poppler or MuPDF as PDF renderer

2013-05-21 Thread Alexander Antimonov
Hi Paul, On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Paul Sladen ubu...@paul.sladen.org wrote: On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 01:25:12PM +0200, Till Kamppeter wrote: On a mobile device this is overkill. We need only one PDF renderer Is this just for the Phablet Core apps? Or to be part of the

Files required by Ubiquity Timezone processing could be dropped

2013-05-21 Thread Timothy Arceri
Just FYI the maintainer of the TZ database has proposed dropping information currently used by Ubiquity from the database. Someone might want to put in an objection to this proposal. See for the post to the mailing list: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2013-May/019297.html -- ubuntu-devel

Re: Files required by Ubiquity Timezone processing could be dropped

2013-05-21 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 21 May 2013 00:43, Timothy Arceri t_arc...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Just FYI the maintainer of the TZ database has proposed dropping information currently used by Ubiquity from the database. Someone might want to put in an objection to this proposal. See for the post to the mailing list:

Unity APIs weekly (wk 20)

2013-05-21 Thread Thomas Strehl
Hi, short summary of achievements of last week: Scopes - Fixed all remaining issues and merged branches. Final publishing is now depending on resolving some general jenkins/autopilot issues and other stacks (HUD and QA). - Further investigated efficient ways of scope to scope communication

Minutes from the Ubuntu Kernel Team meeting, 2013-05-21

2013-05-21 Thread Joseph Salisbury
= Meeting Minutes = [[http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/05/21/%23ubuntu-meeting.txt|IRC Log of the meeting.]] [[http://voices.canonical.com/kernelteam|Meeting minutes.]] == Agenda == [[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting#Tues, 21 May, 2013|20130521 Meeting Agenda]] === ARM Status === Q

Adobe Flash Broken For Obvious Case?

2013-05-21 Thread Ma Xiaojun
Hi, ( I know this can be made into a bug report. ) On 13.04 64bit with Adobe Flash installed. Go to youtube.com, play any video, right-click and select Settings... Then a dialog pops up, but it doesn't respond to user click at all; the only way to close it is refresh the page... I know Adobe

Re: Adobe Flash Broken For Obvious Case?

2013-05-21 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Ma Xiaojun damage3...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, ( I know this can be made into a bug report. ) On 13.04 64bit with Adobe Flash installed. Go to youtube.com, play any video, right-click and select Settings... Then a dialog pops up, but it doesn't respond to user

Authentication services in Ubuntu

2013-05-21 Thread Bolesław Tokarski
Hello, I put some time and effort creating this, please read at the very least introduction and suggestions. = Introduction = I am a maintaining the Ubuntu deployment in Tieto company. We have over 500 Ubuntu desktops. I am also trying to gather the Ubuntu Enterprise community (see

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-05-21 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Benjamin Kerensa wrote on 20/05/13 18:02: On May 20, 2013 8:10 AM, Daniel J Blueman dan...@quora.org ... For all the general users I install Ubuntu for (including servers), it's an utter waste of bandwidth for everyone, particularly when

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-05-21 Thread Daniel J Blueman
I propose we either disable source downloading by default at release time, but I conclude that developers generally don't care about this extra overhead (as we have a good setup). If really we can't see this from a user PoV, I'm happy to start a user discussion and see how users feel...? --

Re: Adobe Flash Broken For Obvious Case?

2013-05-21 Thread John Lenton
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Ma Xiaojun damage3...@gmail.com wrote: On 13.04 64bit with Adobe Flash installed. Go to youtube.com, play any video, right-click and select Settings... Then a dialog pops up, but it doesn't respond to user click at all; the only way to close it is refresh

Re: Adobe Flash Broken For Obvious Case?

2013-05-21 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Dienstag, den 21.05.2013, 04:30 -0500 schrieb Jordon Bedwell: On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Ma Xiaojun damage3...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, ( I know this can be made into a bug report. ) On 13.04 64bit with Adobe Flash installed. Go to youtube.com, play any video, right-click and

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-05-21 Thread Robie Basak
(with my personal hat on) On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 01:48:47PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: I think that's legally sufficient, but not in the spirit of free software. I agree that it's legally sufficient. I also agree that making the sources easily available for download is part of the

Re: Adobe Flash Broken For Obvious Case?

2013-05-21 Thread Daniel Hollocher
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 5:30 AM, Jordon Bedwell jor...@envygeeks.comwrote: On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Ma Xiaojun damage3...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, ( I know this can be made into a bug report. ) On 13.04 64bit with Adobe Flash installed. Go to youtube.com, play any video,

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-05-21 Thread Martin Pitt
Robie Basak [2013-05-21 13:55 +0100]: Why don't we talk about ways to make it just as easy, but without the requirement that indexes are downloaded locally even when they are not being used? pull-lp-source and pull-debian-source are about as easy as it can be IMHO, and offer a lot more

Re: Authentication services in Ubuntu

2013-05-21 Thread Bear Giles
I'm pretty sure the default encryption is relative week is because the packages are distributed internationally. Cryptographic software is consider a munition and subject to ITAR regulation. Many countries restrict what can be imported and/or used within the country. I think the most common

Re: Authentication services in Ubuntu

2013-05-21 Thread Bear Giles
Grr - weak, not week. Why do I never remember that I should never write email until I've been awake for at least two hours?! Embarassingly, Bear On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 7:47 AM, Bear Giles bgi...@coyotesong.com wrote: I'm pretty sure the default encryption is relative week is because the

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-05-21 Thread J Fernyhough
On 21 May 2013 13:55, Robie Basak robie.ba...@canonical.com wrote: What if we provided a reasonable message if no deb-src lines are defined, with a single simple command to add them and run apt-get update for you? I don't think it would even need that - software-properties (Software Updates)

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-05-21 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Dienstag, den 21.05.2013, 18:02 +0800 schrieb Daniel J Blueman: I propose we either disable source downloading by default at release time, but I conclude that developers generally don't care about this extra overhead (as we have a good setup). If really we can't see this from a user PoV,

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-05-21 Thread Robie Basak
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 03:04:20PM +0100, J Fernyhough wrote: On 21 May 2013 13:55, Robie Basak robie.ba...@canonical.com wrote: What if we provided a reasonable message if no deb-src lines are defined, with a single simple command to add them and run apt-get update for you? I don't

Re: any plymouth ...

2013-05-21 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Donnerstag, den 16.05.2013, 15:54 -0400 schrieb Felix Miata: On 2013-05-16 21:27 (GMT+0200) Thomas Prost composed: Martin Pitt wrote: Thomas Prost wrote: So the question is: What must I do to carry on, seeing all what the machine is doing - instead of that nice aubergine

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-05-21 Thread Dale Amon
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 06:02:36PM +0800, Daniel J Blueman wrote: I propose we either disable source downloading by default at release time, but I conclude that developers generally don't care about this extra overhead (as we have a good setup). If really we can't see this from a user PoV,

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-05-21 Thread Dylan McCall
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Dale Amon a...@vnl.com wrote: Source is an educational tool. Learning command line is a lesson in taking control of your own computer. Kids explore. Make sure J Random's computer is full of things to intrigue and lead a 13 year old to the power of the source.

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-05-21 Thread Dale Amon
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 03:22:50PM +0100, Robie Basak wrote: On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 03:04:20PM +0100, J Fernyhough wrote: On 21 May 2013 13:55, Robie Basak robie.ba...@canonical.com wrote: What if we provided a reasonable message if no deb-src lines are defined, with a single simple

Re: Authentication services in Ubuntu

2013-05-21 Thread Patrick Goetz
On 05/21/2013 04:53 AM, ubuntu-devel-discuss-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com wrote: Hopefully, the SSL bug in LDAP libraries is now gone (Bug #423252), so the first 2 can be used productively on desktops and/or servers. Note that cached credentials (with nss-updatedb and pam-ccreds) are not officially

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-05-21 Thread Scott Moser
Hi, I'm kind of late to this thread, but I'd like to add my opinion. Personally, I think we have to many entries in sources.list. Anyone suggesting that there is little cost to entries simply hasn't tested things. There is a very real cost to having unused entries, in bandwidth, load on a

Re: Authentication services in Ubuntu

2013-05-21 Thread Alec Warner
We use nsscache for caching, but this package is also from universe...except my company wrote and maintains it, so I'm OK with it being in universe ;) -A On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Patrick Goetz pgo...@mail.utexas.eduwrote: On 05/21/2013 04:53 AM,

Re: Authentication services in Ubuntu

2013-05-21 Thread Timo Aaltonen
On 21.05.2013 12:37, Bolesław Tokarski wrote: Hello, I put some time and effort creating this, please read at the very least introduction and suggestions. Thanks, this was quite a detailed post and brings back memories :) We are using SSSD with some success now. Thanks to Timo Aaltonen's

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-05-21 Thread Florian Diesch
Am Mon, 20 May 2013 10:02:41 -0700 schrieb Benjamin Kerensa bkere...@ubuntu.com: I think in most parts of the world 4MB is trivial overhead for a user. Over here in German cheap mobile data tarrifs often get you something like a few hundered MByte/month. In some rural areas it's hard to get