Re: Keep or remove software-center?

2016-10-11 Thread Rodney Dawes
PLEASE remove it, and ubuntu-sso-client!!! On Mon, 2016-10-10 at 15:15 +0200, Martin Pitt wrote: > Hello all, > > I just noticed that we still have software-center in yakkety. It > hasn't been maintained for several cycles, we never found anyone who > wanted to port it to Python 3, the desktop

Re: Python 3 only for 16.04

2015-11-06 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2015-11-05 at 16:39 -0600, Barry Warsaw wrote: > >For ubuntu-sso-client, I would suggest not porting it, and if any code > >needs to use an SSO client, the best options would be: > > If I'm not mistaken, Robert Ancell took a action item to see if straight-up > OAuth could be used so

Re: Python 3 only for 16.04

2015-11-05 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2015-11-05 at 16:38 +, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > Heya, > > On 5 November 2015 at 15:48, Rodney Dawes <rodney.da...@canonical.com> wrote: > > One thing I notice, is that this list only includes runtime > > dependencies, and not build time dependencies. To

Re: Python 3 only for 16.04

2015-11-05 Thread Rodney Dawes
One thing I notice, is that this list only includes runtime dependencies, and not build time dependencies. To port things to Python 3, it's not necessarily just a matter of porting the runtime deps, but also build deps will need porting. For ubuntu-sso-client, I would suggest not porting it, and

Re: Python 3.5 transition

2015-07-23 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2015-07-23 at 09:48 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: unity-scopes-shell This seems to have built fine in the test PPA, but probably needs a no-change rebuild as it's the same version that's already in the archive. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part --

Re: Window Controls on the Right Side

2015-05-20 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Wed, 2015-05-20 at 14:25 -0400, Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre wrote: Le mercredi 20 mai 2015 à 11:18 -0400, Rodney Dawes a écrit : [...] There is no sponsorship of bugs in Launchpad. I think it's vitally important here to make sure things are clear: yes, there is such as thing as sponsorship

Re: Window Controls on the Right Side

2015-05-20 Thread Rodney Dawes
Please stop starting new threads with the same topic. Discussion of a design to resolve this issue, needs to happen with the Design team, as well as engineers who would be implementing the feature. There is no sponsorship of bugs in Launchpad. If there is already a bug about the window controls,

Re: Ubuntu Touch File System

2015-05-18 Thread Rodney Dawes
All such data is stored underneath the home directory (~/phablet). Most of the data is stored in XDG directories, for which the environment variables are modified for each confined application, so that data is not accessible by other applications. On Mon, 2015-05-18 at 00:12 +0200,

Re: Ubuntu phone feedback

2015-04-08 Thread Rodney Dawes
Everyone, if you encounter any bugs or issues you have with the phone, please file bug reports in Launchpad, or contact bq's support (if you are using a the bq Ubuntu phone) to raise the issues. This mailing list is not an issue tracking system, and all the developers of the software in question

Re: Ubuntu phone feedback

2015-04-08 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2015-04-06 at 17:16 -0700, Dale Amon wrote: Just out of curiousity, does any one know when it will be available in the US? The bq phone will likely never be officially available in the US. They are a smaller manufacturer that only operates in the EU, and the current phone does not

Re: Ease of enabling -proposed

2015-03-11 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Wed, 2015-03-11 at 18:11 +, Iain Lane wrote: Similar to you, I'm unsure about the benefit for stable releases. There are probably cases where users struggling with bugs, or just trying to verify them, appreciate being able to get proposed updates easily. Both enabling NotAutomatic and

Re: please fix build failures, including those introduced by GCC 5

2015-03-04 Thread Rodney Dawes
Does GCC 5 do something to cause dpkg-gensymbols to break? For example, I was checking the list to see if anything I deal with directly was broken, and checked a few of the other failures for packages I depend on, to see what to expect. In doing so, I ran across the ubuntu-download-manager [1]

Re: please fix build failures, including those introduced by GCC 5

2015-03-04 Thread Rodney Dawes
Does GCC 5 do something to cause dpkg-gensymbols to break? For example, I was checking the list to see if anything I deal with directly was broken, and checked a few of the other failures for packages I depend on, to see what to expect. In doing so, I ran across the ubuntu-download-manager [1]

Re: Windows type shortcuts to files and folders

2015-03-03 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Tue, 2015-03-03 at 21:12 +0100, Jan Claeys wrote: Colin Law schreef op di 03-03-2015 om 09:05 [+]: On 2 March 2015 at 15:40, Johan Kriel j...@hotmail.co.za wrote: I would like to suggest the availability of shortcuts to files and folders (like those used in Windows) also in

Re: Creating Ubuntu USB sticks

2015-01-22 Thread Rodney Dawes
I've been trying to create one recently, under 14.04 running the lts-utopic kernel. It seems the old problem of flushing is back. When I run dd if=ubuntu-14.04.1-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdg bs=4096 it exits almost immediately, and then the LED on the USB spends the next several minutes flashing

Re: Creating Ubuntu USB sticks

2015-01-22 Thread Rodney Dawes
with the specific laptop rather than your usb creation method. Some UEFI are locked to Windows only or Windows and RHEL only. Such as with http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/20187.html On 22 January 2015 at 14:23, Rodney Dawes rodney.da...@canonical.com wrote: I've been trying to create one

Re: Why Ubuntu doesn’t support certain form of shebang for Python?

2014-11-11 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Tue, 2014-11-11 at 18:02 +0100, GatoLoko wrote: Since different distributions and unix systems may have different paths, you may want to use the env utility in a shebang like #!/usr/bin/env python2. Using /usr/bin/env will cause problems in certain conditions, such as when running under a

Re: Want Ubuntu operating system developer community membership

2014-10-10 Thread Rodney Dawes
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership On Fri, 2014-10-10 at 00:44 +, Subhamoy Roy wrote: I want to be Ubuntu operating system developer community member.My email-id is subhamoy...@outlook.com and my contact number +919051058163. I am willing to be a part of Ubuntu and ready to contribute.

Re: changing the gcc and g++ defaults to 4.9 in utopic

2014-07-28 Thread Rodney Dawes
I've noticed that packages which have been changed already to explicitly require gcc-4.9/g++-4.9 to build, are no longer cross-compilable under sbuild as the gcc-cross versions don't seem to be getting set up correctly in the chroot. Will having 4.9 be the default make it possible to cross-compile

Re: Launchpad buildds and capabilities

2014-03-08 Thread Rodney Dawes
Building under sbuild should give you the same errors. You probably shouldn't run gnome-keyring-daemon as part of the test suite, but instead use the mock module's API to mock out any interaction with the daemon itself, in the tests. Or python-dbusmock to do more specific mocking of DBus

Re: some glitches I've noticed

2014-02-24 Thread Rodney Dawes
Please file bugs for any such issues you encounter. This mailing list isn't the place to file bug reports. They need to be reported against the relevant packages, on Launchpad. Thanks. On Mon, 2014-02-24 at 09:33 -0800, Murdoc wrote: So here are a couple of glitches I've encountered so far:

Re: Is this so hard to fix? Or important?

2013-06-09 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Sun, 2013-06-09 at 10:45 +0800, Ma Xiaojun wrote: On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 7:49 AM, C de-Avillez hgg...@ubuntu.com wrote: I thought in UNIX (and Linux, and similar) we did not depend on the extension of a file name. Try: $ eog /usr/share/backgrounds/warty-final-ubuntu.png Don't make

Re: indicator-weather broken, should we drop it from raring?

2013-04-23 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2013-04-22 at 00:00 -0500, Micah Gersten wrote: If it's totally broke, let's drop it and backport it if/when it gets fixed. A backport will appear in software center just like something in the main archive if there's no archive version for it AIUI (apt certainly treats it that way

Re: reflecting on first UDS session on rolling releases

2013-03-06 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Tue, 2013-03-05 at 17:06 -0800, Allison Randal wrote: On 03/05/2013 04:41 PM, Michael Hall wrote: I think different segments of the community have different ideas of what stable means: Distro devs power users: stable == things don't break App devs, OEMS, NTEU: stable ==

Re: The cloud directory name Ubuntu One has a space in it....

2012-12-27 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2012-12-27 at 14:15 +0100, Fredrik Öhrström wrote: 2012/12/26 J Fernyhough j.fernyho...@gmail.com: Call it a feature request instead. Customise default sync folder on first setup. Every Linux-compatible sync client has this option. It also neatly sidesteps any similar issues

Re: Possibility to add Create Launcher to right click context-menu in Nautilus

2012-12-05 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2012-12-06 at 07:10 +1000, Kieran Grant wrote: Hey All, I am currently using Ubuntu 12.04.1, so I don't know if this is something that was worked on in Ubuntu 12.10 or is in the planning stage for Ubuntu 13.04, but I am wondering if it's possible for something to be done about the

Re: Possibility to add Create Launcher to right click context-menu in Nautilus

2012-12-05 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2012-12-06 at 08:32 +1000, Kieran Grant wrote: Whether it is better to allow users to add icons to their Desktop (where they'll probably not use it) or not, is something that Canonical and the upstream GNOME guys can ponder. Something that has always worked in GNOME (though I don't

Re: chromium memory conumption on x86_64

2012-11-26 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Sun, 2012-11-25 at 17:39 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote: Hi folks, some time ago, when I've moved my notebook (4GB RAM), from 32bit gentoo to 64bit ubuntu, I've noticed a big increase in memory consumption. I haven't had a chance for deeper look at the code, but my suspicion is that a

Re: Thinking about SRU

2012-11-08 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2012-11-08 at 15:42 -0600, Ma Xiaojun wrote: On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@ubuntu.com wrote: This is the nature of a stable release. Better the devil we know. This is the reason why we ask for simple, easy to understand patches, or require an extremely detailed

Re: Questions About Ubuntu One Music Store

2012-11-05 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Sat, 2012-11-03 at 02:02 -0500, Ma Xiaojun wrote: 1. Where is the discussion channel? I know this list may not be a good choice. #ubuntuone on Freenode IRC. 2. Why is it available in English only? I find it annoying to find Chinese artists and songs using English names. I guess

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2012-11-05 at 15:52 +, Bruno Girin wrote: It's a couple of weeks late for UDS-R but what about creating a blueprint for UDS-S? Get the discussion going, gather examples of privacy issues and what could be done to address them. Then at the next UDS, we can work out solutions that

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2012-11-05 at 12:11 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Monday, November 05, 2012 11:53:03 AM Rodney Dawes wrote: ... There were large changes to address some specific user concerns around the dash search, that went in after various freezes were in effect. ... That's also true

Re: Questions About Ubuntu One Music Store

2012-11-05 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2012-11-05 at 10:39 -0600, Ma Xiaojun wrote: On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Rodney Dawes rodney.da...@canonical.com wrote: The store does not have stores for all regions, and in China you perhaps may be seeing the world store. The songs and artist names are probably translated

Re: EFF Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2012-11-05 at 13:58 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: I don't know if it's been done before or not, but perhaps the Release Team, and Tech Board, should take up any concerns related to some of the Canonical projects' involvement in that process, with the appropriate members of

Re: When should Python 3.3 become the default?

2012-10-19 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2012-10-18 at 18:07 -0300, Roberto Alsina wrote: On 10/18/2012 06:04 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: There are good arguments on both sides, and I can probably convince myself to be either aggressive or conservative. One of my biggest concerns against switching early is that we still

Re: When should Python 3.3 become the default?

2012-10-19 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Fri, 2012-10-19 at 13:18 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: So if you're trying to support precise-raring in a single codebase that's currently python2-only, it would be better to focus on 2.7+3.3 and ignore 3.2 entirely. For anyone shipping code via .debs or in a PPA though, it's much easier to

Re: Drop Alphas and Betas (was Re: Releasing Alphas and Betas without freezing)

2012-06-18 Thread Rodney Dawes
Ditën e Mon, 18/06/2012 më 15.30 -0400, Scott Kitterman ka shkruar: On Monday, June 18, 2012 01:30:34 PM Chris Wilson wrote: ... I also think adding the Release Candidate (RC) designation towards the end of the cycle would encourage more people who are quite wary of installing pre-release

Re: Removing gnome-nettool from the default Desktop image?

2012-06-08 Thread Rodney Dawes
Ditën e Fri, 08/06/2012 më 10.27 +1200, Robert Ancell ka shkruar: On 08/06/12 04:48, Jeremy Bicha wrote: Hi, I'd like to see gnome-nettool removed from the default Ubuntu Desktop image. It will of course still be available for easy install for those who want it. Personally, I just use

Re: Drop Gwibber from default install

2012-03-14 Thread Rodney Dawes
Ditën e Wed, 14/03/2012 më 14.21 +0200, Timo Jyrinki ka shkruar: Sure it's the good ol' laggy Gwibber, Can you please clarify what you mean by laggy here? And are there bugs open for what you mean by your use of the term? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part --

Re: Drop Gwibber from default install

2012-03-11 Thread Rodney Dawes
I don't think a couple of people expressing a little frustration with a couple of missing or removed features, is a good reason to remove something from the default install. Even if I use the Twitter web site to interact with it, and gwibber is slow to update, it is useful to see the

Re: Drop Gwibber from default install

2012-03-11 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Sun, 2012-03-11 at 12:46 -0500, Bedwell, Jordon wrote: On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Rodney Dawes rodney.da...@canonical.com wrote: I don't think a couple of people expressing a little frustration with a couple of missing or removed features, is a good reason to remove something

Re: Drop Gwibber from default install

2012-03-11 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Sun, 2012-03-11 at 17:21 -0400, Evan Huus wrote: If the Twitter website is sufficiently fast and feature-full that Gwibber can never provide sufficient advantage to outweigh it's cost in maintenance and CD space, then the correct solution is to remove it. If it is believed that it can, in

Re: Drop Gwibber from default install

2012-03-11 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Sun, 2012-03-11 at 15:37 -0500, Bedwell, Jordon wrote: I don't need to troll Canonical, you lot do just fine at that by yourselves. But I'll leave it to a Canonical employee to assume that everybody who disagrees must be a troll and therefore is one by default because they are blunt and

Confusion RE: UI Freeze Rules

2012-03-01 Thread Rodney Dawes
Hi All, On the wiki page[1], it is stated that the UI and user-visible strings are frozen for applications which are installed by default. My own understanding was that this was for all apps in the archive, as was the general understanding of others when I asked in IRC. However, as we (Ubuntu

Re: Merge Tilda changes

2012-02-28 Thread Rodney Dawes
It looks like they do not use Launchpad for development, but rather, the branch on Launchpad is imported from cvs on Sourceforge. That may also indicate that the upstream is inactive. But you will need to contact the upstream developers to get any changes merged into the project. On Tue,

Re: Ability to set correct DPI in 12.04 (still forced to 96?)

2012-01-10 Thread Rodney Dawes
This is an upstream change to remove all the advanced font settings from the control panel. You can still set most all of them within dconf-editor directly though. On Tue, 2012-01-10 at 10:38 -0300, Ryan Hayle wrote: It seems that there is no longer a way to set the correct DPI for a

Re: The EFF is requesting full disk encryption as an option on the (non-alternate) CD

2012-01-04 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 10:48 -0500, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Phillip Susi ps...@cfl.rr.com wrote: Why bother encrypting / instead of just /home? We already have /home encryption, which seems to meet the needs of most people. IIRC, certificates like for IPSec

Re: is utf-8 the standard filename encoding?

2011-12-21 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 13:51 +1100, Martin Pool wrote: We have a question in https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/794353 and http://bugs.python.org/issue13643 about what encoding bzr and Python ought to assume for file names if there is no locale configured. As a specific example, if you run a

Re: is utf-8 the standard filename encoding?

2011-12-21 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 09:42 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: It's possible I'm mistaken about the default behavior on Ubuntu Server, though - someone please correct me if I'm wrong. Maybe this is another reason why we need to get the C.UTF-8 locale going everywhere. It is definitely not using

Re: is utf-8 the standard filename encoding?

2011-12-21 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 11:28 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: This isn't quite true. There is a complicated set of environment variables, and checks in the code, to ensure that display is always UTF-8, but it generally handles non-UTF-8 filenames gracefully. It's graceful compared to a python

Re: Using webkit 1.8 for the LTS(?)

2011-11-29 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 19:55 +0100, Sebastien Bacher wrote: What is your take on using webkit 1.8? Is that choice good for other teams? Is there any issue or concern you have about updating? As an aside, but also a valid issue, regardless of the version we go with… are there any sort of plans

Re: Brainstorming for UDS-P

2011-10-12 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Wed, 2011-10-12 at 04:44 -0400, Martin Owens wrote: On Tue, 2011-10-11 at 09:39 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: The Fluendo plug-in is the only fully legal MP3 codec implementation there is to use. You don't know that for sure Dobey, libmad has never gone to court and it's status

Re: Brainstorming for UDS-P

2011-10-11 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Tue, 2011-10-11 at 03:47 -0400, Martin Owens wrote: - gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 - Non-free, not sure why we're using this instead of libmad which is free software. We aren't using any of them, actually. We are packaging several, which are not installed by default, within an appropriate

Re: Brainstorming for UDS-P

2011-09-26 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 15:58 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: as GNOME upstream is moving to use PackageKit and systemd more and more, I think it would be great, since these 2 provide well known DBus interfaces, to implement those DBus interfaces in our stack (aptdaemon and ¿ubuntu-system-service?)

Re: [Oneiric-Foundations-Topic] networked client app updates

2011-04-26 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2011-04-21 at 16:32 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: On 21 April 2011 16:14, Allison Randal alli...@canonical.com wrote: - Only ship a very small shim for the client on the CD (advantage of small footprint), and do the rest of the install the first time someone uses Ubuntu One. This is

Re: [Oneiric-Foundations-Topic] networked client app updates

2011-04-26 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 20:09 +0200, Jan Claeys wrote: John Rowland Lenton schreef op do 21-04-2011 om 18:23 [+0100]: * recently we had to upgrade couchdb in lucid for replication to work, and the upgrade broke replication with the old version (which was the reason we needed to upgrade),

Re: [Ubuntuone-users] CouchDB 1.0 SRU to 10.04 LTS

2010-11-27 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 23:06 -0800, Clint Byrum wrote: Since the two are not compatible with one another, its entirely possible that people have built and deployed applications on CouchDB 0.10 and Ubuntu 10.04, and would be extremely upset if we shoved an update into the archive that broke

Re: [Ubuntuone-users] CouchDB 1.0 SRU to 10.04 LTS

2010-11-27 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 12:10 -0800, Clint Byrum wrote: Also, why would 10.10 need to be updated in any way if it already supports the newer protocol? In 10.10 and 11.04, we already ship CouchDB 1.0. Why should users continue to have two versions installed after an upgrade to either of those