Debian Sync - Re: Let's Discuss Interim Releases (and a Rolling Release)

2013-02-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, February 28, 2013 07:31:49 AM Rick Spencer wrote: Daily Quality means that developers can ensure their components are stable and useful before they upload, and our processes protect us from most mistakes these days. The result is that 13.04 has been as robust a release over the

Re: Debian Sync - Re: Let's Discuss Interim Releases (and a Rolling Release)

2013-02-28 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 28 February 2013 17:05, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: On Thursday, February 28, 2013 07:31:49 AM Rick Spencer wrote: Daily Quality means that developers can ensure their components are stable and useful before they upload, and our processes protect us from most mistakes these

Re: Debian Sync - Re: Let's Discuss Interim Releases (and a Rolling Release)

2013-02-28 Thread Philipp Kern
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 06:17:17PM +, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: [emphasis mine] But just like debian we know have britney, together with many automatic adt tests which we run on all reverse dependencies in jenkins. Uploading beta version of software into sid has never been welcomed and by

Re: Debian Sync - Re: Let's Discuss Interim Releases (and a Rolling Release)

2013-02-28 Thread Scott Howard
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs dmitrij.led...@ubuntu.com wrote: But just like debian we know have britney, together with many automatic adt tests which we run on all reverse dependencies in jenkins. Uploading beta version of software into sid has never been welcomed and by

Re: Debian Sync - Re: Let's Discuss Interim Releases (and a Rolling Release)

2013-02-28 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On 28 February 2013 14:33, Micah Gersten mic...@ubuntu.com wrote: Yes, but our britney doesn't delay migration to allow for testing of the built packages or block based on RC bugs filed. I see us getting to the point at some time in the future of being more stable than testing in a rolling

Re: Debian Sync - Re: Let's Discuss Interim Releases (and a Rolling Release)

2013-02-28 Thread Micah Gersten
On 02/28/2013 02:11 PM, Jeremy Bicha wrote: On 28 February 2013 14:33, Micah Gersten mic...@ubuntu.com wrote: Yes, but our britney doesn't delay migration to allow for testing of the built packages or block based on RC bugs filed. I see us getting to the point at some time in the future of

Re: Debian Sync - Re: Let's Discuss Interim Releases (and a Rolling Release)

2013-02-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, February 28, 2013 06:17:17 PM Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: On 28 February 2013 17:05, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: On Thursday, February 28, 2013 07:31:49 AM Rick Spencer wrote: Daily Quality means that developers can ensure their components are stable and useful

Re: Debian Sync - Re: Let's Discuss Interim Releases (and a Rolling Release)

2013-02-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, February 28, 2013 03:11:27 PM Jeremy Bicha wrote: On 28 February 2013 14:33, Micah Gersten mic...@ubuntu.com wrote: Yes, but our britney doesn't delay migration to allow for testing of the built packages or block based on RC bugs filed. I see us getting to the point at some

Re: Debian Sync - Re: Let's Discuss Interim Releases (and a Rolling Release)

2013-02-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, February 28, 2013 12:59:19 PM Steve Langasek wrote: On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 03:11:27PM -0500, Jeremy Bicha wrote: On 28 February 2013 14:33, Micah Gersten mic...@ubuntu.com wrote: Yes, but our britney doesn't delay migration to allow for testing of the built packages or block

Re: Debian Sync - Re: Let's Discuss Interim Releases (and a Rolling Release)

2013-02-28 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 04:16:57PM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: I do think that while 75% of the archive is imported unmodified from Debian, the vast majority of these packages are in the long tail that both a) don't individually have many users in Ubuntu, and b) don't have anyone paying

Re: Debian Sync - Re: Let's Discuss Interim Releases (and a Rolling Release)

2013-02-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, February 28, 2013 01:38:28 PM Steve Langasek wrote: On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 04:16:57PM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: I do think that while 75% of the archive is imported unmodified from Debian, the vast majority of these packages are in the long tail that both a) don't

Re: Debian Sync - Re: Let's Discuss Interim Releases (and a Rolling Release)

2013-02-28 Thread Micah Gersten
On 02/28/2013 11:03 PM, Martin Pitt wrote: Micah Gersten [2013-02-28 13:33 -0600]: Yes, but our britney doesn't delay migration to allow for testing of the built packages or block based on RC bugs filed. Not on RC bugs, but we can still block them manually. Pinging any release team member