Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at UDS

2011-04-13 Thread Dave Walker
On 13/04/11 11:26, James Page wrote: I've just uploaded a new version of the etherpad package to this PPA; it removes the majority of bundled Java dependencies (aside from a patched version of yuicompressor; ran out of time to look at this last night) and links to Java libraries in the main arc

Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at UDS

2011-04-13 Thread James Page
On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 10:28 -0500, Dustin Kirkland wrote: > I have made you an administrator of the ~etherpad team in Launchpad, > such that you can upload iterations of the etherpad packaging to the > ppa:etherpad/ppa. Feel free to add any other teams or individuals who > wants to help with this

Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at UDS

2011-04-11 Thread Elliot Murphy
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Dustin Kirkland wrote: > Looks like Elliot Murphy owns the etherpad project in Launchpad -- we > should probably hook up this team/project together.  Elliot -- I also > added you as an administrator of team ~etherpad.  Perhaps you can > transfer ownership of proje

Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at UDS

2011-04-11 Thread Dustin Kirkland
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 12:50 PM, James Page wrote: > On Fri, 2011-04-08 at 16:39 -0500, Dustin Kirkland wrote: >> It suffers from most the usual ailments endemic to large Java packages >> in Debian/Ubuntu.  The debconf could use a little bit of love.  And >> obviously the change from sunjdk -> op

Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at UDS

2011-04-11 Thread Dustin Kirkland
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 2:11 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Dustin Kirkland wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 4:32 PM, James Troup >> wrote: >>> I appreciate the frustration people have with gobby and I'd be happy to >>> run something better if that's what you guys want to do - the only thing >>> I'

Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at UDS

2011-04-11 Thread James Page
On Fri, 2011-04-08 at 16:39 -0500, Dustin Kirkland wrote: > It suffers from most the usual ailments endemic to large Java packages > in Debian/Ubuntu. The debconf could use a little bit of love. And > obviously the change from sunjdk -> openjdk needs a bit of testing. I > can do a complete revie

Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at UDS

2011-04-11 Thread Thierry Carrez
Dustin Kirkland wrote: > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 4:32 PM, James Troup wrote: >> I appreciate the frustration people have with gobby and I'd be happy to >> run something better if that's what you guys want to do - the only thing >> I'd ask is that someone package Etherpad first[1]. > > I started wi

Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at UDS

2011-04-09 Thread Jorge O. Castro
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Dustin Kirkland wrote: > Perhaps Jorge/Daniel could get an instance running in a beefy Amazon > EC2 instance (m2.4xlarge with 64GB of memory?) and drum up an > Etherpad-testing-day ASAP with your requisite 100+ concurrent > sessions.  I suspect some configuration tw

Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at UDS

2011-04-08 Thread Dustin Kirkland
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 4:32 PM, James Troup wrote: > I appreciate the frustration people have with gobby and I'd be happy to > run something better if that's what you guys want to do - the only thing > I'd ask is that someone package Etherpad first[1]. Hi James, I started with some source packag

Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at UDS

2011-04-08 Thread Jussi Schultink
Hi all, On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Philipp Kern wrote: > Alan, > > am Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 07:13:36PM +0100 hast du folgendes geschrieben: >> There were concerns raised about moving to etherpad and access to >> that with Orca, this reminds me of the last UDS when we did move at >> the last

Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at UDS

2011-04-08 Thread Philipp Kern
Alan, am Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 07:13:36PM +0100 hast du folgendes geschrieben: > There were concerns raised about moving to etherpad and access to > that with Orca, this reminds me of the last UDS when we did move at > the last minute to gobby-0.5 which I understand was fully > inaccessible to Orca

Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at UDS

2011-04-08 Thread Alan Bell
I was the one who did the demo of our little memory constrained Etherpad server at UDS-M and yes, a room full of developers all loading the user interface of the same pad all at once did cause it to run out of memory pretty quick, however that was purely a function of it not being set up to sca

Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at UDS

2011-04-07 Thread James Troup
Hi, > Taking notes in sessions is vitally important. I don't understand how > we can make session note taking a priority while at the same time use > a tool, that has demonstrated in every UDS I've attended, that it's > not up to the task. I appreciate the frustration people have with gobby and I

Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at UDS

2011-04-07 Thread Brad Figg
On 04/07/2011 02:45 AM, Scott Ritchie wrote: On 04/01/2011 10:00 AM, Robert Hooker wrote: I was *really* impressed with how well etherpad handled the load of hundreds of people with no downtime at the linux plumbers conference last year, a bigger server running it would do fine I imagine.. http

Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at UDS

2011-04-07 Thread Scott Ritchie
On 04/01/2011 10:00 AM, Robert Hooker wrote: > I was *really* impressed with how well etherpad handled the load of > hundreds of people with no downtime at the linux plumbers conference > last year, a bigger server running it would do fine I imagine.. > > http://etherpad.osuosl.org/lpc2010-desktop

Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at UDS

2011-04-06 Thread Robert Hooker
I was *really* impressed with how well etherpad handled the load of hundreds of people with no downtime at the linux plumbers conference last year, a bigger server running it would do fine I imagine.. http://etherpad.osuosl.org/lpc2010-desktop -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubun

Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at UDS

2011-04-01 Thread Greg Grossmeier
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Brad Figg wrote: > > Can we please consider an alternative such as: > >   pad.ubuntu-uk.org > >   https://docs.google.com/a/ubuntu.com > > I would prefer moving to the web for some other reasons (Regardless of > wether it's etherpad or gdocs or whatever): I be

Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at UDS

2011-04-01 Thread Alan Pope
On 24 March2011 18:49, Philipp Kern wrote: > Elaborate critique.  Or rather: Care to elaborate?  Did you file bugs? > For more than one UDS I've been a remote participant. Using Gobby over a proxied connection (at work for example) is a painful experience, especially from a work-supplied Windows

Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at UDS

2011-03-24 Thread Scott Ritchie
On 03/24/2011 12:57 PM, Jorge O. Castro wrote: > On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> IIRC when Etherpad was demonstrated at a recent UDS, it crashed almost >> instantly when a UDS scale audience tried it. > > That's because it was on one of Daviey's personal servers and he

Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at UDS

2011-03-24 Thread Dave Walker
On 24/03/11 20:44, Luke Yelavich wrote: On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 06:35:05AM EST, Jorge O. Castro wrote: I would prefer moving to the web for some other reasons (Regardless of wether it's etherpad or gdocs or whatever): If we move to anything other than a dedicated GTK based application, we need

Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at UDS

2011-03-24 Thread Luke Yelavich
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 06:35:05AM EST, Jorge O. Castro wrote: > I would prefer moving to the web for some other reasons (Regardless of > wether it's etherpad or gdocs or whatever): If we move to anything other than a dedicated GTK based application, we need to consider accessibility implications

Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at UDS

2011-03-24 Thread Dave Walker
On 24/03/11 19:57, Jorge O. Castro wrote: On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: IIRC when Etherpad was demonstrated at a recent UDS, it crashed almost instantly when a UDS scale audience tried it. That's because it was on one of Daviey's personal servers and he had no warning

Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at UDS

2011-03-24 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 12:37:51PM -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: > On Thu, 2011-03-24 at 12:23 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > > My recollection is that this was not actually the case for UDS-M. For > > UDS-N, we had just switched over to the new client+protocol+server, and > > things were definit

Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at UDS

2011-03-24 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > IIRC when Etherpad was demonstrated at a recent UDS, it crashed almost > instantly when a UDS scale audience tried it. >From what I remember, that was a tiny vps with very little resources and not enough (or any?) fore-warning to its owner

Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at UDS

2011-03-24 Thread Jorge O. Castro
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > IIRC when Etherpad was demonstrated at a recent UDS, it crashed almost > instantly when a UDS scale audience tried it. That's because it was on one of Daviey's personal servers and he had no warning and we killed all the hamsters inside. W

Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at UDS

2011-03-24 Thread Scott Kitterman
IIRC when Etherpad was demonstrated at a recent UDS, it crashed almost instantly when a UDS scale audience tried it. Scott K-- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel

Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at UDS

2011-03-24 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:53:45AM -0700, Brad Figg wrote: > On 03/24/2011 11:49 AM, Philipp Kern wrote: > >On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:09:45AM -0700, Brad Figg wrote: > >>It is my understanding that the current plan is to usd Gobby > >>for session note taking at the next UDS. Please say it isn't >

Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at UDS

2011-03-24 Thread Clint Byrum
On Thu, 2011-03-24 at 12:23 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > My recollection is that this was not actually the case for UDS-M. For > UDS-N, we had just switched over to the new client+protocol+server, and > things were definitely less polished. > IIRC something horrible happened at UDS-M one da

Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at UDS

2011-03-24 Thread Jorge O. Castro
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Brad Figg wrote: > Can we please consider an alternative such as: >   pad.ubuntu-uk.org >   https://docs.google.com/a/ubuntu.com I would prefer moving to the web for some other reasons (Regardless of wether it's etherpad or gdocs or whatever): - We have a URL to

Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at UDS

2011-03-24 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:53:45AM -0700, Brad Figg wrote: > On 03/24/2011 11:49 AM, Philipp Kern wrote: > >On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:09:45AM -0700, Brad Figg wrote: > >>It is my understanding that the current plan is to usd Gobby > >>for session note taking at the next UDS. Please say it isn't >

Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at UDS

2011-03-24 Thread Neal McBurnett
Here is what I shared a few times during my last UDS: Hugely frustrating to pick a "unique" color when there are lots of users Throws away old document windows when you reconnect, which I've had to do once or twice a day Can't search for a document by content. I'd also like to see a better or

Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at UDS

2011-03-24 Thread Brad Figg
On 03/24/2011 11:49 AM, Philipp Kern wrote: On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:09:45AM -0700, Brad Figg wrote: It is my understanding that the current plan is to usd Gobby for session note taking at the next UDS. Please say it isn't so. Elaborate critique. Or rather: Care to elaborate? Did you file

Re: Using something better than Gobby for session notes at UDS

2011-03-24 Thread Philipp Kern
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:09:45AM -0700, Brad Figg wrote: > It is my understanding that the current plan is to usd Gobby > for session note taking at the next UDS. Please say it isn't > so. Elaborate critique. Or rather: Care to elaborate? Did you file bugs? Kind regards Philipp Kern signatu

Using something better than Gobby for session notes at UDS

2011-03-24 Thread Brad Figg
James, It is my understanding that the current plan is to usd Gobby for session note taking at the next UDS. Please say it isn't so. Taking notes in sessions is vitally important. I don't understand how we can make session note taking a priority while at the same time use a tool, that has demon