Re: Bug madness: High frequency of load/unload cycles

2008-05-13 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 07:58 +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote: > please read the article again... relatime might help as part of a > workaround but the article makes pretty clear that there is no sane way > you can solve it on the software side in a nonintrusive way, its a > hardware vendor setting and h

Re: Bug madness: High frequency of load/unload cycles

2008-05-13 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Dienstag, den 13.05.2008, 22:42 +0200 schrieb Milan Bouchet-Valat: > Le mardi 13 mai 2008 à 11:22 +0200, Oliver Grawert a écrit : > > hi, > > Am Montag, den 12.05.2008, 23:14 +0200 schrieb Milan Bouchet-Valat: > > > I'd like to raise the developers' awareness about bug 59695 [1]: High > > >

Re: Ubiquity - setting a separate /home by default

2008-05-13 Thread Evan Dandrea
On Tue, 2008-05-13 at 23:47 -0400, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: > On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 00:33 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > I presume that you did not instruct the installer to format the old > > /home partition? (If you did, then why?) > > > > If not, then that's a very serious bug. Please report it

Re: Ubuntu boot speed fall in Hardy

2008-05-13 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 08:32 +0100, Sitsofe Wheeler wrote: > On Sun, 2008-05-11 at 03:37 -0400, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: > > On Sun, 2008-05-11 at 08:28 +0100, Sitsofe Wheeler wrote: > > > Do you have a link to the discussion? Were things suposed to be any > > > better in Hardy? > > > > https://bugs

Re: firefox and bad ssl certificates

2008-05-13 Thread Zak B. Elep
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Mackenzie Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2008-05-13 at 16:24 -0400, Phillip Susi wrote: >> No, they won't, and shouldn't. Why pay some idiot corporation an >> extortion fee just because they bribed the browser manufacturers to >> include their certs b

Re: Ubiquity - setting a separate /home by default

2008-05-13 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 00:33 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 09:51:29PM +0200, David Prieto wrote: > > Hi again, > > > > > > Ubiquity can now install onto a partition that has an existing home > > > > directory without deleting it. It just removes the system directories. > > >

Re: firefox and bad ssl certificates

2008-05-13 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Tue, 2008-05-13 at 16:24 -0400, Phillip Susi wrote: > No, they won't, and shouldn't. Why pay some idiot corporation an > extortion fee just because they bribed the browser manufacturers to > include their certs by default? There is NO added security to having a > paid for cert. See the sev

Re: firefox and bad ssl certificates

2008-05-13 Thread HggdH
> The rather larger problem is that the little lock is generally presumed by > users to mean much more than it does. Emphasizing cert validity only > compounds the problem. As an example, after today I'd be rather more > concerned if I didn't get an unknown cert warning from a Debian site th

Re: firefox and bad ssl certificates

2008-05-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tue, 13 May 2008 19:32:23 -0400 (EDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> No, they won't, and shouldn't. Why pay some idiot corporation an >> extortion fee just because they bribed the browser manufacturers to >> include their certs by default? There is NO added security to having a >> paid for cert.

Re: Ubiquity - setting a separate /home by default

2008-05-13 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 09:51:29PM +0200, David Prieto wrote: > Hi again, > > > > Ubiquity can now install onto a partition that has an existing home > > > directory without deleting it. It just removes the system directories. > > Do you have to do anything special for that to work? I usually kee

Re: firefox and bad ssl certificates

2008-05-13 Thread ffm
> No, they won't, and shouldn't. Why pay some idiot corporation an > extortion fee just because they bribed the browser manufacturers to > include their certs by default? There is NO added security to having a > paid for cert. In 8.04, CACert is included as a provider. CACert is free. The price

Re: Bug madness: High frequency of load/unload cycles

2008-05-13 Thread Andrew Sayers
How about a script that does some sort of binary search for the ideal amount of time? So it would start off by setting `hdparm -B 128`, then wait 10 minutes, check whether there's been more than $CYCLE_MAX cycles, do `hdparm -B 64` or -B 192, then start over again. If the script finished with a v

Re: Ubiquity - setting a separate /home by default

2008-05-13 Thread Evan Dandrea
On Tue, 2008-05-13 at 21:51 +0200, David Prieto wrote: > Hi again, > > > > Ubiquity can now install onto a partition that has an existing home > > > directory without deleting it. It just removes the system directories. > > > Do you have to do anything special for that to work? I usually keep >

Re: Bug madness: High frequency of load/unload cycles

2008-05-13 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
Le mardi 13 mai 2008 à 11:22 +0200, Oliver Grawert a écrit : > hi, > Am Montag, den 12.05.2008, 23:14 +0200 schrieb Milan Bouchet-Valat: > > I'd like to raise the developers' awareness about bug 59695 [1]: High > > frequency of load/unload cycles on some hard disks may shorten lifetime > > > plea

Re: firefox and bad ssl certificates

2008-05-13 Thread Phillip Susi
Milan Bouchet-Valat wrote: > Notifications are never read, especially by users that are not > passionate by computers - they're exactly like there was no message at > all, only they annoy users: "click OK and then see if there's a problem" > is what OS have used people to for many years. And after

Re: Ubiquity - setting a separate /home by default

2008-05-13 Thread David Prieto
Hi again, > > Ubiquity can now install onto a partition that has an existing home > > directory without deleting it. It just removes the system directories. Do you have to do anything special for that to work? I usually keep my /home in a separate partition, but I have another partition with som

Re: Ubiquity - setting a separate /home by default

2008-05-13 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 10:51:59PM +0100, Sam Tygier wrote: > David Prieto wrote: > > Some time ago, I posted this idea on Ubuntu Brainstorm, about the > > possibility to use a separate /home folder by default on systems where, > > depending on free disk space, it is considered advisable. > > The

Re: Four crashes, no apport actions

2008-05-13 Thread Thomas Novin
On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 18:00 +0200, Martin Pitt wrote: > Hi, > > Milan Bouchet-Valat [2008-05-07 17:41 +0200]: > > Why is it disabled? > > Because > > (1) we have our hands full with fixing the development release and > want to concentrate on it For the next version to become better, isn't i

1. Unabel to unmount/eject CD/DVD ? (( ``-_-?? ) -- Fernando)

2008-05-13 Thread Arvind K
> >Yesterday I was met, with what I think is one of the most >stupid bugs I ever found. > When I tried to eject a DVDr, either using nautilus tools or >the drive eject button, an error popup showed up, telling me >that I wasn't root. > WTF, now I can't even eject CDs? >I had a look at my user per

Re: Ubuntu boot speed fall in Hardy

2008-05-13 Thread Krzysztof Lichota
2008/5/13 Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 23:12 +0200, Krzysztof Lichota wrote: > > > Sorry about that. It just got lost in my mailbox. > > And about lack of feedback, I meant feedback from users. The kernel > > has been downloaded 280+ times and I got something

Re: Ubuntu boot speed fall in Hardy

2008-05-13 Thread Krzysztof Lichota
2008/5/13 John McCabe-Dansted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Could we use the lists to sort the LiveCD filesystem generation? > > > > It depends what you want to do with it. If you want to feed the list > > to mksquashfs, it can be done. If you want to add prefetching list to > > live CD, this would b

Re: Ubuntu boot speed fall in Hardy

2008-05-13 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 23:12 +0200, Krzysztof Lichota wrote: > Sorry about that. It just got lost in my mailbox. > And about lack of feedback, I meant feedback from users. The kernel > has been downloaded 280+ times and I got something like 2 reports from > users. I don't know if it works or if it

Re: Bug madness: High frequency of load/unload cycles

2008-05-13 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Montag, den 12.05.2008, 23:14 +0200 schrieb Milan Bouchet-Valat: > I'd like to raise the developers' awareness about bug 59695 [1]: High > frequency of load/unload cycles on some hard disks may shorten lifetime > please see this article: http://lwn.net/Articles/257426/ it is not aything ub

Re: Reusing old specs + blueprints cleanup

2008-05-13 Thread Przemysław Kulczycki
Neal McBurnett pisze: Yes - it is very hard to see which blueprints are still in play. It's a pity that those who can change the status of the blueprint don't follow it to the end, leaving many blueprints looking like unfinished. -- ## Przemysław Kulczycki <<>> Azrael Nightwalker ## # jabber

Unabel to unmount/eject CD/DVD ?

2008-05-13 Thread (``-_-´´) -- Fernando
Yesterday I was met, with what I think is one of the most stupid bugs I ever found. When I tried to eject a DVDr, either using nautilus tools or the drive eject button, an error popup showed up, telling me that I wasn't root. WTF, now I can't even eject CDs? I had a look at my user permitions a

Re: Reusing old specs

2008-05-13 Thread Przemysław Kulczycki
Bryce Harrington pisze: The Ubuntu's blueprints page currently lists over 2000 specs. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu Some of them are implemented, but not marked as such. Some of them have been deferred, but are not marked as such. Some of them became obsolete. And finally some of them m