Re: making deals with M$

2008-06-09 Thread Daniel Holbach
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Fink schrieb: I just read this article: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/06/07/ubuntu-remix-codecs/ Just FYI: Mark Shuttleworth just replied to the blog post: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/06/07/ubuntu-remix-codecs/#comment-12124 Canonical has

Re: Customized CD

2008-06-09 Thread Krzysztof Lichota
2008/6/8 Alexandre Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I'm not sure I'm on the correct list here. I'm trying to setup a customized CD for future installations on a large number of computers. During the installation, I'll have no network, so I can only depend on CD. Why don't you just use UCK

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-09 Thread Jeffrey Katz
My vote goes to either Rhythmbox or Amarok. I have over 100,000 songs. Neither Exaile or Banshee seem to finish indexing that many. Printed on 100-percent recycled electrons. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at:

Re: making deals with M$

2008-06-09 Thread Remco
I think it's ok to facilitate the purchase of codecs to watch content from the non-free world, but why is the video on the site in a non-free format? http://www.canonical.com/netbooks If you want to work to make sure that open codecs become more widely adopted, then you should start providing

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Making Canonical's/Ubuntu's contributions more visible

2008-06-09 Thread Przemysław Kulczycki
Matthew Nuzum pisze: On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 4:36 AM, Przemysław Kulczycki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now let's get to the point. One of the often accusations against Ubuntu is that it only takes from other projects (Debian, Red Hat, Novell/Suse...) and doesn't give back anything. Ubuntu should

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-09 Thread Darren Albers
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Evan Dandrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2008-06-08 at 15:20 -0400, Darren Albers wrote: I have never been able to get Rythmbox to update my iPod nor my wifes. Then please file a bug. The Rhythmbox webpage only says it can read from iPods and other

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-09 Thread Sebastian Breier
Am Montag, den 09.06.2008, 11:05 -0400 schrieb Darren Albers: Well you were correct it does work, but I had to remove all the content on the iPOD and then add it again for it to work. It is odd since gtkpod worked fine. I guess there was something wrong with the local database on the iPod

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Making Canonical's/Ubuntu's contributions more visible

2008-06-09 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 09/06/08 at 16:02 +0200, Przemysław Kulczycki wrote: Matthew Nuzum pisze: On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 4:36 AM, Przemysław Kulczycki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now let's get to the point. One of the often accusations against Ubuntu is that it only takes from other projects (Debian, Red Hat,

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-09 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/6/9 Mackenzie Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I was a Banshee user for about 9 months or so. That ended a year ago. Unless it's changed, Banshee only recognizes songs you have imported. It does not monitor directories for new songs, and especially not recursively. Yep, and for this very

Re: making deals with M$

2008-06-09 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Mark Fink wrote: I just read this article: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/06/07/ubuntu-remix-codecs/ I hope this is wrong or I will have to stop using ubuntu and find another distro to use. Such a shame... Mark, Remco There is (again) absolutely no truth to the rumour that Canonical has

Re: making deals with M$

2008-06-09 Thread Chandru
This is what I call very good openness. Hope this continues and a fix to bug #1 is found soon. :) On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 10:36 PM, Mark Shuttleworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Fink wrote: I just read this article: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/06/07/ubuntu-remix-codecs/ I hope this

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-09 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
And there goes another reason why such proposals and suggestions should be replaced with nice, cute, understandable feature sheet aka HIG or LSB. People don't like removed features and it should be taken into account. And it is better to fix application than propose new replacement. And even if

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-09 Thread Sebastian Breier
Am Montag, den 09.06.2008, 21:47 +0300 schrieb Peteris Krisjanis: Is there any interest in creating that kind of LSB for desktop features - or is there already something like this? As far as I see, it would help desktop testing a lot and would help with priorities in bug fixing. What about

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-09 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Sun, 2008-06-08 at 14:43 -0400, Darren Albers wrote: There are a couple of positives to using Banshee by default over Rhythmbox: 1) Complete iPod support (Rythmbox only supports reading from iPods) 2) Large support for reading and writing from various media players. 3) Integration with

Re: making deals with M$

2008-06-09 Thread Remco
Mark (Shuttleworth), You know, I mostly agree with this viewpoint. (I should also point out that I wasn't really a part of this discussion, as I only commented on the non-free codec of the video) There is no point in preventing users from watching their non-free videos legally. And it is probably

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-09 Thread Darren Albers
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Scott James Remnant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2008-06-08 at 14:43 -0400, Darren Albers wrote: There are a couple of positives to using Banshee by default over Rhythmbox: 1) Complete iPod support (Rythmbox only supports reading from iPods) 2) Large

Re: Dealing with codecs, was: Making deals with Microsoft

2008-06-09 Thread Martin Owens
Hey Remco, I only have/had two problems with the situation, and that's not something against Canonical per se I do have some problems with this but it can not be solved by limiting the users workstation; I don't even believe it's right to keep certain formats off the CD for instance keeping

Re: making deals with M$

2008-06-09 Thread Luke L
Good read, and more elegantly put than the way I said it. One most look beyond the ultimate goal of total freedom of software and be pragmatic. Technically, one must follow the law, and proprietary codecs are too widely used to ignore. Mark very well summed it up, I need not go on. On 6/9/08,

Re: making deals with M$

2008-06-09 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 09.06.2008 um 21:40 schrieb Remco: How are their users going to learn about free file formats, and why it is important? For them it's not even important anymore, because they can play it anyway. This continues the ruling of the proprietary codec organizations. While this problem ist hard

dpkg-buildpackage issue when building packages not in parent dir

2008-06-09 Thread Bryan Hanks
Not sure if this is the correct forum for this, but dpkg-buildpackage has an issue when a cdbs compliant rules file specifies a deb destination directory to be different then '..'. The problem comes about from this part of the dpkg-buildpackage script. chg=../$pva.changes withecho dpkg-genchanges

Re: Customized CD

2008-06-09 Thread Jan Claeys
Op maandag 09-06-2008 om 11:47 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Krzysztof Lichota: 2008/6/8 Alexandre Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm not sure I'm on the correct list here. I'm trying to setup a customized CD for future installations on a large number of computers. During the installation,

Re: Dealing with codecs, was: Making deals with Microsoft

2008-06-09 Thread Christopher James Halse Rogers
On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 15:59 -0400, Martin Owens wrote: Hey Remco, I only have/had two problems with the situation, and that's not something against Canonical per se I do have some problems with this but it can not be solved by limiting the users workstation; I don't even believe it's

Re: making deals with M$

2008-06-09 Thread Christopher James Halse Rogers
On Sun, 2008-06-08 at 19:54 +0200, Milosz Derezynski wrote: Sorry for dropping in. Has there been any mention of Microsoft that they will never, ever sue anyone who uses Mono nor the Mono developers themselves, or is this all under the Novell/Microsoft convenant? If they never made such a

Re: making deals with M$

2008-06-09 Thread Milosz Derezynski
Just that Mono implements more than that; surely System.Windows.Forms ist not part of the ECMA spec? What about Moonlight? It would be a very wise step to separate the ECMA and non-ECMA parts in the Mono upstream so that if hard comes to harder, it can be easily removed from the Mono distribution.

Re: Dealing with codecs, was: Making deals with Microsoft

2008-06-09 Thread Martin Owens
It sucks, but that's software patents for you. It's sucks? no eating a bad piece of pie and farting too much sucks. Having your laws slapped in your face by greedy bastards that's an insult several levels above sucks my friend. I don't believe in these so called licenses, they didn't make the