Re: rename system-cleaner-gtk to cruft-remover-gtk

2008-11-03 Thread Matthew East
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Lars Wirzenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ma, 2008-11-03 kello 08:17 +0100, Mario Vukelic kirjoitti: On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 11:31 +0530, shirish wrote: had to rename it to cruft-remover-gtk due to trademark related names. Non-technical users have absolutely no

Version Control

2008-11-03 Thread (``-_-´´) -- Fernando
Due to some bug with kdepim and the way it corrupts its configuration on power failure (gnome-power manager wasn't hibernating my laptop on time, so I had to rebuild my Kmail configuration, accounts, transports, filters, folder tree proprieties, etc, 3 times, a real pain in the butt), I started

Re: Version Control

2008-11-03 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 22:00 +, (``-_-´´) -- Fernando wrote: Also it would be nice to see some tool result from this and be included into Jaunty. I remember reading about something called TimeMachine, but I have no idea how that is going. Time Machine is a Mac OSX thing. -- Mackenzie

Re: Version Control

2008-11-03 Thread Remco
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 12:22 PM, (``-_-´´) -- Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I meant flyback. http://flyback-project.org/ There's also TimeVault: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeVault Remco -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or

Re: rename system-cleaner-gtk to cruft-remover-gtk

2008-11-03 Thread Justin M. Wray
Maybe this is my misinterpertation of the purpose of the application, but I am unsure that a whitelist/blacklist would be the right solution. Correct me if I am wrong, but the tool removes apps that are not in the repository (for whatever reason; manually install, obsolete, etc). Why would we

Re: finding out if network-manager has published online/offline status?

2008-11-03 Thread Alexander Sack
On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 07:13:22AM -0500, Matt Price wrote: hi, i just reported a bug on evolution (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/293046) that, on reflection, i think might actually be a network-manager bug. The symptom in evolution is a hang while pinging imap

Re: rename system-cleaner-gtk to cruft-remover-gtk

2008-11-03 Thread Siegfried Gevatter (RainCT)
2008/11/3 Justin M. Wray [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On that note, maybe we can obtain statistics (with permission) of debs that are installed manually and do not exist in the repository. This data can then be used to prioritize applications that need packaging or upgrading. We can base priority

Re: rename system-cleaner-gtk to cruft-remover-gtk

2008-11-03 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ma, 2008-11-03 kello 10:30 +, Matthew East kirjoitti: If there is genuinely no way of keeping the system clean without some user intervention, then certainly there is a use for such a program. There is really no way of knowing for certain that a given package is or is not required by the

Re: rename system-cleaner-gtk to cruft-remover-gtk

2008-11-03 Thread Robert Entner
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Markus Hitter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 03.11.2008 um 11:48 schrieb James Westby: there is no way to tell the difference between obsolete packages and locally installed ones. Doesn't apt-get suggest to auto-remove packages from time to time? Obviously,

how to exclude --.gvfs from disturbing stuff

2008-11-03 Thread shirish
Hi all, Please look at this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/225361 . Now I'm looking for a way so I can use sudo to do my stuff without it coming in every time. For e.g. I'm having something like this :- Pass 1 of 10, 1/25 (4%): 502.1 frags/MB

Re: rename system-cleaner-gtk to cruft-remover-gtk

2008-11-03 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ma, 2008-11-03 kello 12:49 +0100, Markus Hitter kirjoitti: Doesn't apt-get suggest to auto-remove packages from time to time? Obviously, the packaging mechanism keeps track of which packages were installed by user command and which ones solely as a dependency. That's true, and a future

Re: Version Control

2008-11-03 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 02.11.2008 um 23:00 schrieb (``-_-´´) -- Fernando: The reason I'm emailing you guys and galls, is to ask if someone recommends any other Version Control System, that can suit my needs of safe guarding my confs as versioning, plus binary files. AFAIK git aint that good, because each

Re: Version Control

2008-11-03 Thread (``-_-´´) -- Fernando
Olá Forest e a todos. On Monday 03 November 2008 13:49:45 Forest Bond wrote: You may want to bring your questions to the bzr mailing list. I know there are other people doing exactly what you are doing. bzr is highly configurable. The bzr devs are also very helpful. It is likely that

Re: rename system-cleaner-gtk to cruft-remover-gtk

2008-11-03 Thread Charlie Kravetz
On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 13:27:29 + Justin M. Wray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe this is my misinterpertation of the purpose of the application, but I am unsure that a whitelist/blacklist would be the right solution. Correct me if I am wrong, but the tool removes apps that are not in the

Re: Version Control

2008-11-03 Thread Forest Bond
Hi, On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 10:00:48PM +, (``-_-´´) -- Fernando wrote: Due to some bug with kdepim and the way it corrupts its configuration on power failure (gnome-power manager wasn't hibernating my laptop on time, so I had to rebuild my Kmail configuration, accounts, transports,

Re: rename system-cleaner-gtk to cruft-remover-gtk

2008-11-03 Thread Alan Pope
2008/11/3 James Westby [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Perhaps we need some sort of tool installed by default that removes packages that are no longer needed, and may be considered cruft :-) I'd agree the word cruft is unsuitable given the fact that it's a geek phrase. By way of an unscientific test I

unaccountable beeping

2008-11-03 Thread Fergal Daly
Summary: nothing should make my computer beep without leaving a log. Since about a week ago, my computer has started beeping occasionally. I have no idea why, it doesn't seem to correspond with power or network events or with any application that is running. It is annoying and practically

Re: rename system-cleaner-gtk to cruft-remover-gtk

2008-11-03 Thread Alan Pope
2008/11/3 Markus Hitter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: To add my own $ o.o2, I'd very much like to see a tool or Synaptic feature which tells me about the differences between a standard install and the current set of installed packages. One can purge package by package until {Synaptic, apt-get,...} wants

Re: rename system-cleaner-gtk to cruft-remover-gtk

2008-11-03 Thread Matthew East
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 10:15 AM, James Westby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 10:06 +, Matthew East wrote: This is the second time I've been bitten by a problem like this... it seems that people tracking intrepid frequently end up with a desktop that is different to that

Re: rename system-cleaner-gtk to cruft-remover-gtk

2008-11-03 Thread James Westby
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 10:06 +, Matthew East wrote: This is the second time I've been bitten by a problem like this... it seems that people tracking intrepid frequently end up with a desktop that is different to that which is finally released. No doubt this policy has been considered and

Re: rename system-cleaner-gtk to cruft-remover-gtk

2008-11-03 Thread Matthew East
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Chris Coulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/11/3 Matthew East [EMAIL PROTECTED] The whole application needs a thorough review. To be honest, it's pretty surprising that it was included by default in Intrepid, considering the high quality of presentation of the

Re: rename system-cleaner-gtk to cruft-remover-gtk

2008-11-03 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ma, 2008-11-03 kello 13:35 +, Matthew East kirjoitti: Heh, you took me a bit too literally there. I meant that the word should be removed from the application completely, but of course it would need to be replacd with another title. To be honest, I find the word Remover a bit awkward, as

Re: Version Control

2008-11-03 Thread Chris Coulson
2008/11/2 (``-_-´´) -- Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also it would be nice to see some tool result from this and be included into Jaunty. I remember reading about something called TimeMachine, but I have no idea how that is going. Thanks for your time. -- BUGabundo :o) (``-_-´´)

Re: rename system-cleaner-gtk to cruft-remover-gtk

2008-11-03 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ma, 2008-11-03 kello 18:01 +0200, Lars Wirzenius kirjoitti: I follow the legal advice I got, from a real lawyer, and that was clear: change the name. Matthew, I'm sorry I chose those words. I didn't no mean to imply you are not a real lawyer. I did not know you were a lawyer at all. Here is

Re: rename system-cleaner-gtk to cruft-remover-gtk

2008-11-03 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 03.11.2008 um 11:48 schrieb James Westby: there is no way to tell the difference between obsolete packages and locally installed ones. Doesn't apt-get suggest to auto-remove packages from time to time? Obviously, the packaging mechanism keeps track of which packages were installed by

Inclusion of a mobile management tool

2008-11-03 Thread Chandru
Hi, Now that almost everyone has got a mobile and most of them connect it to their PCs, wouldn't it be a good idea to include a decent mobile management tool like Wammu (there may me better ones but this is what I use)? Even if it is not going to be included in the Live CD due to lack of CD

Re: Inclusion of a mobile management tool

2008-11-03 Thread Martin Owens
What does the mobile manager do? what does is manage? There has been a lot of discussion and debate about Hardware Management vs Device Capability. Should the manager provide functional access then it might work via hal capabilities, if it's configuration or some other kind of hardware management

Re: Inclusion of a mobile management tool

2008-11-03 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 22:29 +0530, Chandru wrote: Hi, Now that almost everyone has got a mobile and most of them connect it to their PCs, wouldn't it be a good idea to include a decent mobile management tool like Wammu (there may me better ones but this is what I use)? Even if it is not

Re: rename system-cleaner-gtk to cruft-remover-gtk

2008-11-03 Thread Mario Vukelic
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 02:21 -0500, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: I thought cruft was used interchangeably with crud when talking about real-life things. I thought it is a known word too, but US-natives called me to ask what I was talking about. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list

Re: finding out if network-manager has published online/offline status?

2008-11-03 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 07:13 -0500, Matt Price wrote: hi, i just reported a bug on evolution (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/293046) that, on reflection, i think might actually be a network-manager bug. The symptom in evolution is a hang while pinging imap server,

Re: Version Control

2008-11-03 Thread (``-_-´´) -- Fernando
Olá Mackenzie e a todos. On Monday 03 November 2008 09:36:04 Mackenzie Morgan wrote: On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 22:00 +, (``-_-´´) -- Fernando wrote: Also it would be nice to see some tool result from this and be included into Jaunty. I remember reading about something called TimeMachine,

finding out if network-manager has published online/offline status?

2008-11-03 Thread Matt Price
hi, i just reported a bug on evolution (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/293046) that, on reflection, i think might actually be a network-manager bug. The symptom in evolution is a hang while pinging imap server, which occurs on laptop wakeup. thinking about it,

Re: Inclusion of a mobile management tool

2008-11-03 Thread Martin Owens
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 22:56 +0530, Chandru wrote: One very common use of a mobile management app is backup of contacts. Apart from that if need be (not exactly too common), back up text messages. But beyond that Wammu provides capabilities to manage mobile's calendar, To Do, etc, etc which

Re: Inclusion of a mobile management tool

2008-11-03 Thread Viktor Nagy
I definitely agree with Martin, I just switched phone. Before I used wammu, and I've found it really good, especially when my phone started to really break down, and it was hard to write even a simple SMS, as in Wammu you can write it, BUT Wammu exports and imports only his own formats, and even

Re: finding out if network-manager has published online/offline status?

2008-11-03 Thread Matt Price
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 13:00 -0500, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 07:13 -0500, Matt Price wrote: hi, i just reported a bug on evolution (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/293046) that, on reflection, i think might actually be a network-manager