Re: Wacom tablets, TabletPC and Xorg support for Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty)

2008-11-10 Thread Timo Aaltonen
On Sun, 9 Nov 2008, Loïc Martin wrote: I contacted upstream, and their answer can be found at: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_name=167e8a330811070926n3024605m7bd7baa6e24bfedf%40mail.gmail.com Here is an extract: Hotplugg is a server-wide issue. It will be resolved for all

Re: Introduction and an Idea

2008-11-10 Thread Dylan McCall
Hi, Here's a bit of a tangent on my part, but ideas grow well when there are a few different ones! I was thinking that the conventional backup tool is a rather unnecessary, kludgey design. Perhaps this could be accomplished with a backup: URI implemented in gvfs, where backup destinations get

Re: Very bad status of hardware (especially wifi) support in ubuntu, due to the too many accumulated regressions

2008-11-10 Thread John McCabe-Dansted
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 7:57 AM, Bryce Harrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That said, I do like generalizing. :-) I think there is a cyclical thing in FOSS, where you have some legacy thing that works 80%, and upstream decides to get that last 20% it requires a major rewrite. They expect it

Re: Very bad status of hardware (especially wifi) support in ubuntu, due to the too many accumulated regressions

2008-11-10 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
John McCabe-Dansted ha scritto: OTOH hand this means that the drivers together cover more than 85%. Would it perhaps be worth making both drivers easily available on the same kernel? I guess ideally we would scan the CVS automatically compiling each module, and identify the exact revision

Re: Introduction and an Idea

2008-11-10 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Dylan McCall ha scritto: * We should present revisions of files. With backups happening passively, a super intelligent system could do them to multiple media. If we do a conventional backup, we can avoid user intervention in configuration by automatically creating a

Re: [ubuntu-x] Fwd: Wacom tablets, TabletPC and Xorg support for Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty)

2008-11-10 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 05:47:38PM +0100, Lo?c Martin wrote: 2) update the linux wacom driver to the latest (even beta) release. I think it's already the case, Intrepid use the beta driver 0.8.1.4, and Jaunty uses the 0.8.1.6. 0.8.1.4 has a bug that severly affect some users (input freeze

Re: Very bad status of hardware (especially wifi) support in ubuntu, due to the too many accumulated regressions

2008-11-10 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 10:13 +, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: For VGA out I really think I've not seen any recent laptop taking it right on ubuntu, we are far beyond the 15% here I think but without a serious analysis we can't know. What issue do you have with VGA-out? Does it not work *at

Re: Very bad status of hardware (especially wifi) support in ubuntu, due to the too many accumulated regressions

2008-11-10 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 10:13:25AM +, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: John McCabe-Dansted ha scritto: OTOH hand this means that the drivers together cover more than 85%. Would it perhaps be worth making both drivers easily available on the same kernel? I guess ideally we would scan the

Re: Very bad status of hardware (especially wifi) support in ubuntu, due to the too many accumulated regressions

2008-11-10 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Regarding -i810, indeed there are a few remaining corner cases where there are issues (mostly with old 8xx-era chips that Intel provides only limited support for), and I've discussed a lot of these with Intel. But I can't really speak on your issue without knowing the specifics of your

Re: Very bad status of hardware (especially wifi) support in ubuntu, due to the too many accumulated regressions

2008-11-10 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 09:50:22PM +, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: Regarding -i810, indeed there are a few remaining corner cases where there are issues (mostly with old 8xx-era chips that Intel provides only limited support for), and I've discussed a lot of these with Intel. But I can't

Re: [ubuntu-x] Fwd: Wacom tablets, TabletPC and Xorg support for Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty)

2008-11-10 Thread Loïc Martin
Bryce Harrington a écrit : On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 05:47:38PM +0100, Lo?c Martin wrote: 2) update the linux wacom driver to the latest (even beta) release. I think it's already the case, Intrepid use the beta driver 0.8.1.4, and Jaunty uses the 0.8.1.6. 0.8.1.4 has a bug that severly affect

Re: [ubuntu-x] Fwd: Wacom tablets, TabletPC and Xorg support for Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty)

2008-11-10 Thread Loïc Martin
I forgot to point out that besides wacomcpl there's also Tablet Apps http://alexmac.cc/tablet-apps/ which has a really nice interface and is already programmed AFAIR in python. None of them support the initial configuration of wacom devices (even in xorg) and would need to be patched to support

Re: Very bad status of hardware (especially wifi) support in ubuntu, due to the too many accumulated regressions

2008-11-10 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
On 10/11/2008 Bryce Harrington wrote: You should know them very well :) In fact you were assigned to the case some point in time between winter and spring, or at least these were the words of somebody on the ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list. I wasn't assigned, but I did work on

Do you really want developers to be on this list was (Re: Very bad status of hardware (especially wifi) support in ubuntu, due to the too many accumulated regressions)

2008-11-10 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday 10 November 2008 18:14, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: On 10/11/2008 Bryce Harrington wrote: You should know them very well :) In fact you were assigned to the case some point in time between winter and spring, or at least these were the words of somebody on the

Re: Very bad status of hardware (especially wifi) support in ubuntu, due to the too many accumulated regressions

2008-11-10 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 17:05 -0800, Bryce Harrington wrote: However, I am beginning to think that all the cases I know are i945 - execpt for the aforementioned old laptop about which - frankly - I don't care at all :) So perhaps my bug will solve most of the other ones regarding VGA

Re: Very bad status of hardware (especially wifi) support in ubuntu, due to the too many accumulated regressions

2008-11-10 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 08:13:52PM -0500, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 17:05 -0800, Bryce Harrington wrote: However, I am beginning to think that all the cases I know are i945 - execpt for the aforementioned old laptop about which - frankly - I don't care at all :)

Re: Very bad status of hardware (especially wifi) support in ubuntu, due to the too many accumulated regressions

2008-11-10 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 11:14:34PM +, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: I have done all my best for that bug - sometimes really struggling to gather debug information in time before e.g. sending the laptop out. As soon as I have a monitor at hand I will keep on. But my laptop is not the only

Re: Do you really want developers to be on this list was (Re: Very bad status of hardware (especially wifi) support in ubuntu, due to the too many accumulated regressions)

2008-11-10 Thread Martin Owens
This list was created to give users a way to discuss Ubuntu development with developers. Comments like I was just joking about you having to know anything make the decision to unsubscribe easy. I'm seriously considering it myself. It should remain, developers should remain. Developers