Remco wrote:
Once upon a time, Linux was very hard to use on the desktop. If you
wanted to do anything, you had to read manuals and get flamed on
mailinglists. In recent years this has all been turned around. There
were some detractors that would argue that Linux would become as
insecure as
Hi all,
I am using Ubuntu since 3 Years. I would consider
myself as a advanced linux-user and professional software developer.
Just to check the new version, I migrated two 9.4 Systems to 9.10
and installed a Karmic Beta on a fresh system.
Now (3 days before the release) karmic seems to be
Steven Susbauer wrote:
On Oct 25, 2009, at 11:10 AM, Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote:
Dotan Cohen wrote:
For your information, Linux savvy companies tend to...
Linux-savvy companies are not the issue here. GUI server tools will
attract mom 'n pop small businesses as well.
Mom and
Basically just cause you are facing some (minor in my opinion) problems,
you want to stop the Karmic release 3 days before its due date ? Come
on !!!
Hi all,
I am using Ubuntu since 3 Years. I would consider
myself as a advanced linux-user and professional software developer.
Just to
(Sorry for top-posting; bad MTA)
Have you filed any bugs WRT PA and mpd? AFAICT, those issues are integration
ones, not anything at fault in PA, and there are several workarounds
allowing a user to output to PA through mpd.
As for Adobe Flash, there is anecdotal evidence that nspluginwrapper is
H,
The user dialogs for several subsystems are not ready yet. For
example... the old dialogs for setting detailed user rights or
changing the welcome screen are not included.
As far as I know, the new GDM made the old welcome screen setting
dialog obsolete. Eventually a new tool
Am 26.10.2009 um 12:08 schrieb Dirk Hoeschen:
Now (3 days before the release) karmic seems to be unready.
Even if the system is stable, I found many bugs and inconsistent
issues.
Obviously, the team is totally overwhelmed by bugs. Look for example
at bug #459067:
Steven Susbauer wrote:
On Oct 25, 2009, at 2:12 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Thank you for proving my point.
Or proving the point that easy to use GUI configuration tools can
actually help make the situation better, for example suggesting the
user set a password for their SMTP server.
Dotan Cohen wrote:
That tool is generally called a server. That Mac OS X tool is called
Samba, with a nice interface to configure it. I see no reason why they
should be forced to run Mac OS X to do this.
I think that Chan was giving an example.
People should have the choice to do what
Dotan Cohen wrote:
And you thing that simple file sharing server based on SMB are
comparable to Mustang GT?
No. But I think that running a public HTTP server is.
No way - everybody _and_ their monkey runs a public HTTP server today. You
can't expect that that will ever be done by
John Moser wrote:
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Ryan Dwyer ryandwy...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't think there's any use discussing whether we think a GUI or CLI is
better. Shouldn't we focus on what the typical business wants and what
they're prepared to use?
This is an easy question.
Dotan Cohen wrote:
I agree that all networks should be managed by an experienced
administrator, but unfortunately a lot of them aren't. We can't change
that. Many businesses just want something that works and is easy to
manage, even if there are issues such as no backups. The target
audience
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Dotan Cohen wrote on 24/10/09 13:25:
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Why not have a GUI program that performs brain surgery? That rebuilds
Ford smallblocks? That gives legal advice? Some jobs require a
professional, and making them accessible does nobody any good.
The
Le lundi 26 octobre 2009 à 14:07 +0100, Markus Hitter a écrit :
requires me to go to the keyboard
manager after each reboot before I can make use of the keyboard.
Hi,
The bug is low because it's the first ticket about the issue and is
rather due to local configuration than a bug which will
Derek Broughton wrote:
John Moser wrote:
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Ryan Dwyer ryandwy...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't think there's any use discussing whether we think a GUI or CLI is
better. Shouldn't we focus on what the typical business wants and what
they're prepared to use?
Caroline Ford wrote:
On 25 Oct 2009, at 15:09, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote:
Or puts them out of a job?
Likely we are talking about a small business here, so the decision
maker might be the top of the organization's food chain. But it might
get him sued, and thus out of a
Can you explain how the system becomes inflexible by adding a GUI tool?
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From: Chan Chung Hang Christopher christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:05:37
To: Caroline Fordcaroline.ford.w...@googlemail.com
Cc:
Markus Hitter wrote:
Am 26.10.2009 um 12:08 schrieb Dirk Hoeschen:
Now (3 days before the release) karmic seems to be unready.
Even if the system is stable, I found many bugs and inconsistent
issues.
Obviously, the team is totally overwhelmed by bugs. Look for example
at bug #459067:
1. Re: cancel the 9.10 release... it is not ready (Markus Hitter)
I agree we should cancel it and deliver 9.12 in a week or so.. it is better
because it is the time and we still have bugs in kernel, when changing icon
set they are not well applied, ISO files are not well mounted, some icons
2009/10/26 solaris manzur sl.sola...@gmail.com
1. Re: cancel the 9.10 release... it is not ready (Markus Hitter)
and one more... notify-osd is losing performance... ms windows is horrible
and I do not want to use it anymore but when they deliver a new version of
their operating system
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:16:31 -0500
solaris manzur sl.sola...@gmail.com wrote:
1. Re: cancel the 9.10 release... it is not ready (Markus Hitter)
I agree we should cancel it and deliver 9.12 in a week or so.. it is better
because it is the time and we still have bugs in kernel, when
Just curious here.
Apart from the obvious cases of failure to boot the CD and legal issues,
what are some examples of what would be considered a showstopper level bug
that would suspend/defer a release?
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On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 14:16 -0500, solaris manzur wrote:
1. Re: cancel the 9.10 release... it is not ready (Markus
Hitter)
I agree we should cancel it and deliver 9.12 in a week or so.. it is
better because it is the time and we still have bugs in kernel, when
Hello,
Le lundi 26 octobre 2009 à 13:45 -0700, George Farris a écrit :
[...]
I also agree. There are some major high level functions such as ISO
files that really need to be working well.
For example I can't burn two copies of an ISO in a row, it doesn't
work.
Totem doesn't
On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 22:05 +0100, Jonathan Ernst wrote:
Hello,
Le lundi 26 octobre 2009 à 13:45 -0700, George Farris a écrit :
[...]
I also agree. There are some major high level functions such as ISO
files that really need to be working well.
For example I can't burn two
Derek Broughton wrote:
Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote:
Derek Broughton wrote:
John Moser wrote:
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Ryan Dwyer ryandwy...@gmail.com
wrote:
I don't think there's any use discussing whether we think a GUI or CLI
is
Op zondag 25-10-2009 om 20:55 uur [tijdzone -0700], schreef Shentino:
I didn't notice the artwork problem myself until after that date, as
I'm not normally one to jump straight on the development version.
Having only one box and not enough beef to run a VM kinda makes me
beta shy.
About once
Op vrijdag 23-10-2009 om 13:03 uur [tijdzone +1030], schreef Ryan Dwyer:
BTW: GUI tools shouldn't run on a server, but on the admin's
(or
pseudo-admin's) desktop. Using a secure connection to the
server, of
course.
I take it no one has any issues
Op vrijdag 23-10-2009 om 11:57 uur [tijdzone -0600], schreef Kevin
Fries:
I mentioned this the other day, and other than a few people making off
line comments indicating that they had never heard of the product, my
suggestion of GOsa got completely ignored.
Maybe it needs better documentation
Jan Claeys wrote:
Op vrijdag 23-10-2009 om 11:57 uur [tijdzone -0600], schreef Kevin
Fries:
I mentioned this the other day, and other than a few people making off
line comments indicating that they had never heard of the product, my
suggestion of GOsa got completely ignored.
Maybe
schultz.patr...@gmail.com wrote:
Can you explain how the system becomes inflexible by adding a GUI tool?
Well, the whole premise for the tool was apparently to enable non-admins
to administer a server. Are you going to give a whole list of options
that they know nothing about?
As for
Op maandag 26-10-2009 om 14:36 uur [tijdzone -0700], schreef George
Farris:
Oh right and also http://www.cbc.ca/video none of them play in
Firefox.
If anyone knows how to debug this stuff I'd love to try, but really it
works with Firefox on Windows and Mac but not Linux, Fail.
Well, I got
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