Hello,
I am the GetDeb project founder and manager, I would like to present GetDeb,
current status and planned goals.
Introduction
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The GetDeb idea born about 1 year ago, the motivation came from forums
participation, where it was very common to find end users struggling to
build
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Op zondag 14-10-2007 om 12:46 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef João Pinto:
> Future Plans
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> Move to APT based software distribution
> - Most people ask why aren't we using APT yet, the answer is simple,
> there is no APT based implementation for a project with our
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On Tuesday 16 October 2007 06:02, João Pinto wrote:
> Hello ,
> getdeb packages requirements do not meet ubuntu backports requirements,
> ubuntu backports are based on versions available on the development
> version, getdeb packages are based on the latest upstream version, some of
> the software
Le mardi 16 octobre 2007 à 11:02 +0100, João Pinto a écrit :
> GetDeb is an user friendly UI to the latest software, that was our
> starting point, I am not sure that after overcoming the current
> technical APT adoption blockers we will be able to merge with
> backports at some point, that will b
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On Tuesday 16 October 2007 10:22, João Pinto wrote:
top posting reformatted
> 2007/10/16, Scott Kitterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > On Tuesday 16 October 2007 06:02, João Pinto wrote:
> > > Hello ,
> > > getdeb packages requirements do not meet ubuntu backports
> > > requirements, ubuntu back
Am Dienstag, den 16.10.2007, 11:02 +0100 schrieb João Pinto:
* getdeb packages requirements do not meet ubuntu backports
requirements, ubuntu backports are based on versions available
on the development version, getdeb packages are based on the
latest upstream versio
Am Dienstag, den 16.10.2007, 15:22 +0100 schrieb João Pinto:
> Scott,
> besides myself there other debian/ubuntu contributors which also
> contribute to getdeb, when they do it for an official project you
> classify them as insiders, and on other project, outsiders ?
> What part of our work is not
On Tuesday 16 October 2007 11:51, João Pinto wrote:
fixed top posting (again).
> > Ubuntu has official repositories. Getdeb isn't one of them. I don't
> > know what can be clearer than that. If you want to be "Official" talk to
> > the Ubuntu Tech Board. That's what Backports did.
> >
> > You
cial
repositories?
Read above
The -getdeb was changed to ~getdeb, because, as per one of our users
suggestion (a long time ago) that would make our packages minor compared to
the ubuntu official packages (for the same version). No one raised that
problem regarding the backports packages, unt
Hi,
On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 04:51:52PM +0100, João Pinto wrote:
> We provide packages which are new/not in the official repositories, because,
> we
> want them to become available for the users. If your question, is, why don't
> we
> follow the MOTU processes to make them available, then we go i
Le mardi 16 octobre 2007 à 20:43 +0100, João Pinto a écrit :
> Is the timeline similar ? Are the users motivated ? Do backports reach
> a broad audience ?
The backports are part of the Ubuntu infrastructure, supported and can
be enabled using the Ubuntu tools
> What is "Properly" for Getdeb, m
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On Tuesday 16 October 2007 16:19, João Pinto wrote:
> Once we skip that phase of the dialog, we will get into the, "How can we
> collaborate?", which I was trying to get into on my previous mail,
> regarding the ability to upload packages to a backports automated building
> process.
By policy (gi
On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 22:03 +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> No, that's not something we can know from a summary mail, we would need
> to look at the packages you are distributing. Do you have a bug tracker
> where users can send issue they have using the getdeb versions?
https://bugs.launchpad.ne
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On Tuesday 16 October 2007 16:52, João Pinto wrote:
top posting fixed.
> 2007/10/16, Scott Kitterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > By policy (given out by the Ubuntu Tech Board) backports only come from
> > the
> > developmental repository. I don't understand why you keep wanting to
> > bypass
> > th
ckages I was looking for came
> into the official repository and I got automatic updates across all my
> machines (having five different versions of GNOME References on each of
> my machines was a pain).
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deb.net/
If we believe there is a good reason for an exception, the package will be
removed.
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On Tuesday 16 October 2007 17:27, João Pinto wrote:
> Hello,
> I am not going to touch the gnucash package because the "Feisty" getdeb
> archive is frozen.
> When a new release arrives, we also get a frozen archive, on our case, for
> the past release.
>
> Still, you can request it's removal by rep
João Pinto napisał(a):
>>I note that you are distributing gnucash 2.2.1 for Feisty:
> Possible causes:
> - We have packaged it before it was available on backports
> - We missed to verify that it was on backports, or for some odd reason
> we decided to publish it knowing that it was already availab
On Tuesday 16 October 2007 19:06, Krzysztof Lichota wrote:
> João Pinto napisał(a):
> >>I note that you are distributing gnucash 2.2.1 for Feisty:
> >
> > Possible causes:
> > - We have packaged it before it was available on backports
> > - We missed to verify that it was on backports, or for some
Scott Kitterman napisał(a):
> Generally I enable backports, install what I want, and the disable it again.
> That I think most people can do.
Maybe they can, but:
a) they have to know about it
b) it is very inconvenient
c) you do not get updates to installed app (i.e. security fixes)
> It doesn
On Tuesday 16 October 2007 17:57, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Tuesday 16 October 2007 17:27, João Pinto wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I am not going to touch the gnucash package because the "Feisty" getdeb
> > archive is frozen.
> > When a new release arrives, we also get a frozen archive, on our case,
> >
On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 01:45:04AM +0200, Krzysztof Lichota wrote:
> Scott Kitterman napisał(a):
> > Generally I enable backports, install what I want, and the disable it
> > again.
> > That I think most people can do.
>
> Maybe they can, but:
> a) they have to know about it
They have to know
Hi João Pinto,
On Sun, Oct 14, 2007 at 12:46:59PM +0100, João Pinto wrote:
> Hello,
> I am the GetDeb project founder and manager, I would like to present GetDeb,
> current status and planned goals.
Thanks for sending this mail to the Ubuntu lists. It's apparent that
GetDeb mee
Scott Kitterman napisał(a):
> I was thinking about this some more. My objection isn't to the installation
> method, but to the packages. Someone earlier in the thread mentioned the
> benifits of the web front end that Getdeb provides.
>
> Rather than remove something like gnucash from getdeb
Ming Hua napisał(a):
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 01:45:04AM +0200, Krzysztof Lichota wrote:
>> Scott Kitterman napisał(a):
>>> Generally I enable backports, install what I want, and the disable it
>>> again.
>>> That I think most people can do.
>> Maybe they can, but:
>> a) they have to know about
On Wednesday 17 October 2007 06:47, Krzysztof Lichota wrote:
> Scott Kitterman napisał(a):
> > I was thinking about this some more. My objection isn't to the
> > installation method, but to the packages. Someone earlier in the thread
> > mentioned the benifits of the web front end that Getdeb pro
idation, then you do not care or you do not understand what is
the PGP signature role.
I strongly recommend you some reading like:
http://cryptnet.net/fdp/crypto/strong_distro.html
http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt
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On Wednesday 17 October 2007 10:15, João Pinto wrote:
> > I disagree. If I'm pulling a .deb from LP over https, I have a lot more
> > confidence in that than one that's signed, but from some external site.
>
> Not
>
> > ideal, but it's better.
>
> Scott,
> if your trust is based on the URL of the
Op dinsdag 16-10-2007 om 20:43 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef João Pinto:
> GetDeb is the only "thing" which provides latest versions and brand new
> software that people need for the "current" Ubuntu version, on a user
> friendly fashion, with screenshots, video links, user comments, etc, what is
>
Scott Kitterman spake thusly:
>
> You provide packages that are newer/not in the official repositories. With
> the exception of packages that are legally questionable for the official
> repositories, why?
Why? Because people want newer packages.
And trying to get them through "official cha
Hi,
first off thanks for conacting us (again). You've certainly put a lot of
effort into the GetDeb project, and are obviously (taken from your bandwith
estimations) providing a well accepted and wanted service. So thanks for your
work improving the Ubuntu distribution!
Am Dienstag 16 Ok
certainly put a lot of
> effort into the GetDeb project, and are obviously (taken from your
> bandwith
> estimations) providing a well accepted and wanted service. So thanks for
> your
> work improving the Ubuntu distribution!
>
> Am Dienstag 16 Oktober 2007 16:28:56 schrieb Joã
Hi,
Am Dienstag 16 Oktober 2007 22:35:08 schrieben Sie:
> Hello,
> You can get a snapshot of the current app tables:
> http://www.getdeb.net/tmp/getdeb_db_16_Oct_2007.sql.gz
>
> I don't have a detailed data model documentation, here is a quick guide for
> the apps info:
> gd_app -> Application inf
becoming a
MOTU which is a whole process and I wasn't, and I'm still not, ready for
that. Not until this thread I found out that for backports it's different.
I will check out the backport process and see if I could help out there
as well. I won't abandon the Getdeb project, it&
Am Mittwoch, den 17.10.2007, 09:24 -0400 schrieb Peter (Ubuntu List):
> I did check to see if I could help out creating packages for as some
> call it, the inside Ubuntu community. All I could find was becoming a
> MOTU which is a whole process and I wasn't, and I'm still not, ready for
> that.
ht
Le mercredi 17 octobre 2007 à 09:24 -0400, Peter (Ubuntu List) a écrit :
> The main reason why I started creating packages for Getdeb was the fact
> it was so easy to participate. I created an updated package and within
> two days it was up on the site. I tend to create packages I use myself
> or
Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> Le mercredi 17 octobre 2007 à 09:24 -0400, Peter (Ubuntu List) a écrit :
>
>> The main reason why I started creating packages for Getdeb was the fact
>> it was so easy to participate. I created an updated package and within
>> two days it was up on the site. I tend to cre
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