Re: Midnight Commander in 8.10

2008-10-30 Thread Christopher James Halse Rogers
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 01:26 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: On 2008/10/30 12:41 (GMT+1000) Chris Jones composed: And as mentioned already, anyone who uses mc will probably not be using it off a live cd anyway. Any time I boot a Knoppix CD it's a virtual certainty that the first thing I do

Re: Midnight Commander in 8.10

2008-10-30 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 05:17:11PM +0100, Martin Pitt wrote: Felix Miata [2008-10-29 10:29 -0400]: How nice for you that you've never had broken X But that's not what you asked about? Even if your installed system is totally broken, the live system will always boot, and seriously, the

Re: Midnight Commander in 8.10

2008-10-30 Thread Sean Hodges
Phillip Susi wrote: Felix Miata wrote: How nice for you that you've never had broken X, and never will have, and never will need to help someone else with broken X. So no, I don't think MC _needs_ to be anywhere. Right. You'll never need it, so no one else should have it either.

Re: Midnight Commander in 8.10

2008-10-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:47:16 + Sean Hodges [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phillip Susi wrote: Felix Miata wrote: How nice for you that you've never had broken X, and never will have, and never will need to help someone else with broken X. So no, I don't think MC _needs_ to be anywhere.

Midnight Commander in 8.10

2008-10-29 Thread lkmail
Good day Please add mc to the '8.10'. It's very useful -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: Midnight Commander in 8.10

2008-10-29 Thread Jonathan Carter (highvoltage)
Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please add mc to the '8.10'. It's very useful It's too late to change anything in 8.10, it's frozen solid :) Also, as useful as mc is, it's only useful to a small amount of users, and will waste precious space on the Ubuntu release discs. mc is incredibly easy to

Re: Midnight Commander in 8.10

2008-10-29 Thread Martin Pitt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-10-29 5:12 +0800]: Good day Please add mc to the '8.10'. It's very useful It's right there, package mc, as it has always been in all Ubuntu releases. Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian

Re: Midnight Commander in 8.10

2008-10-29 Thread Felix Miata
On 2008/10/29 11:56 (GMT+0200) Jonathan Carter (highvoltage) composed: Also, as useful as mc is, it's only useful to a small amount of users, and will waste precious space on the Ubuntu release discs. mc is incredibly easy to install and it's not a big download, so I doubt it will be an issue

Re: Midnight Commander in 8.10

2008-10-29 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday 29 October 2008 08:36, Felix Miata wrote: On 2008/10/29 11:56 (GMT+0200) Jonathan Carter (highvoltage) composed: Also, as useful as mc is, it's only useful to a small amount of users, and will waste precious space on the Ubuntu release discs. mc is incredibly easy to install

Re: Midnight Commander in 8.10

2008-10-29 Thread Felix Miata
On 2008/10/29 08:51 (GMT-0400) Scott Kitterman composed: On Wednesday 29 October 2008 08:36, Felix Miata wrote: ...users who install only to find broken X and/or networking ... Leaving mc off the CD is like equipping a new car with the usual spare tire, but no jack... ... and doesn't have

Re: Midnight Commander in 8.10

2008-10-29 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 29.10.2008 um 14:10 schrieb Felix Miata: This isn't the first time here mc has been deemed dispensible. This doesn't surprise me, as mc is a (intentionally old-fashioned) file manager an Nautilus covers this functionality already. One possible way of dealing with the situation is to add

Re: Midnight Commander in 8.10

2008-10-29 Thread Felix Miata
On 2008/10/29 14:23 (GMT+0100) Markus Hitter composed: Am 29.10.2008 um 14:10 schrieb Felix Miata: This isn't the first time here mc has been deemed dispensible. This doesn't surprise me, as mc is a (intentionally old-fashioned) file manager an Nautilus covers this functionality already.

Re: Midnight Commander in 8.10

2008-10-29 Thread Thomas Novin
@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Midnight Commander in 8.10 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:41:45 -0400 Mailer: Mozilla/5.0 (OS/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; rv:1.8.1.17) Gecko/20080913 SeaMonkey/1.1.12 (PmW) On 2008/10/29 14:23 (GMT+0100) Markus Hitter composed: Am 29.10.2008 um 14:10 schrieb Felix Miata

Re: Midnight Commander in 8.10

2008-10-29 Thread Felix Miata
On 2008/10/29 14:48 (GMT+0100) Thomas Novin composed: I haven't used MC since late 1990's and I can't really say I miss it! I perform lots of file-managing tasks every day and I'm quite happy with Nautilus. How nice for you that you've never had broken X, and never will have, and never will

Re: Midnight Commander in 8.10

2008-10-29 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 10:29 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: On 2008/10/29 14:48 (GMT+0100) Thomas Novin composed: I haven't used MC since late 1990's and I can't really say I miss it! I perform lots of file-managing tasks every day and I'm quite happy with Nautilus. How nice for you that

Re: Midnight Commander in 8.10

2008-10-29 Thread Jonathan Carter (highvoltage)
Hi Felix Felix Miata wrote: I haven't used MC since late 1990's and I can't really say I miss it! I perform lots of file-managing tasks every day and I'm quite happy with Nautilus. How nice for you that you've never had broken X, and never will have, and never will need to help someone

Re: Midnight Commander in 8.10

2008-10-29 Thread Felix Miata
On 2008/10/29 17:18 (GMT+0200) Jonathan Carter (highvoltage) composed: Felix Miata wrote: I haven't used MC since late 1990's and I can't really say I miss it! I perform lots of file-managing tasks every day and I'm quite happy with Nautilus. How nice for you that you've never had broken

Re: Midnight Commander in 8.10

2008-10-29 Thread Felix Miata
On 2008/10/29 10:37 (GMT-0400) Mackenzie Morgan composed: On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 10:29 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: How nice for you that you've never had broken X, and never will have, and never will need to help someone else with broken X. When X breaks, use bash. Simple enough. Wrong. Not

Re: Midnight Commander in 8.10

2008-10-29 Thread Martin Pitt
Felix Miata [2008-10-29 10:29 -0400]: How nice for you that you've never had broken X But that's not what you asked about? Even if your installed system is totally broken, the live system will always boot, and seriously, the chances that X doesn't work in the live system, not even with a boring

Re: Midnight Commander in 8.10

2008-10-29 Thread Henrik Johansson
Hi, I am sorry to but in like this but this seems like a non-issue really or have i missed the point entirely? @Felix: You want mc on the CD since you have neither X nor a working network? I mean 'sudo apt-get install mc' is not really hard to type right? There are several potential problems

Re: Midnight Commander in 8.10

2008-10-29 Thread Phillip Susi
Felix Miata wrote: How nice for you that you've never had broken X, and never will have, and never will need to help someone else with broken X. So no, I don't think MC _needs_ to be anywhere. Right. You'll never need it, so no one else should have it either. Ever heard of the tyranny of

Re: Midnight Commander in 8.10

2008-10-29 Thread Felix Miata
On 2008/10/29 16:28 (GMT-0400) Phillip Susi composed: How exactly is mc vital to fixing a broken X? It's vital to fixing broken __, __, __, ___, etc., etc. in generic fashion, and extremely helpful in talking an unfamiliar user through same. Only one tool is required to find,

Re: Midnight Commander in 8.10

2008-10-29 Thread Chris Jones
Regarding Midnight Commander (mc): I'm a very heavy user of mc and use it for pretty much anything file related on a day-to-day basis. And once you get used to it and know how to harness its power, you'll never use Nautilus (or any other graphical file manager) again. And I'm not speaking for a

Re: Midnight Commander in 8.10

2008-10-29 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 05:01:33PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: On 2008/10/29 16:28 (GMT-0400) Phillip Susi composed: How exactly is mc vital to fixing a broken X? It's vital to fixing broken __, __, __, ___, etc., etc. in generic fashion (Citation needed) -- Matthew

Re: Midnight Commander in 8.10

2008-10-29 Thread Felipe Figueiredo
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 03:11 +, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 05:01:33PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: On 2008/10/29 16:28 (GMT-0400) Phillip Susi composed: How exactly is mc vital to fixing a broken X? It's vital to fixing broken __, __, __, ___,

Re: Midnight Commander in 8.10

2008-10-29 Thread Felix Miata
On 2008/10/30 12:41 (GMT+1000) Chris Jones composed: And as mentioned already, anyone who uses mc will probably not be using it off a live cd anyway. Any time I boot a Knoppix CD it's a virtual certainty that the first thing I do once it finishes booting is start MC. I boot Knoppix to fix