Re: >20M users ( Please don't automatic upgrade )

2009-04-10 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 (``-_-´´) -- BUGabundo wrote on 11/04/09 01:36: >... > On Tuesday 07 April 2009 14:27:41 Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: >> >> That approach might scale to about 10 million users max -- or maybe >> 20 million when you buy any of the several computers they

Re:>20M users ( Please don't automatic upgrade )

2009-04-10 Thread (``-_-´´) -- BUGabundo
Olá Matthew e a todos. On Tuesday 07 April 2009 14:27:41 Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > That approach might scale to about 10 million users max -- or maybe 20 million > when you buy any of the several computers they have with Ubuntu preinstalled. You mean to say that there are now over 20M Ubuntu u

Re: Please don't automatic upgrade

2009-04-07 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Vincenzo Ciancia wrote on 06/04/09 14:24: >... > Unless you can _guarantee_ that every upgrade will NOT harm the system > and e.g. make it impossible to login, or break Xorg, it is much wiser > if upgrades are done only by the hand of persons who know

Re: Please don't automatic upgrade

2009-04-06 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Monday 06 April 2009 11:40:12 pm Jan Claeys wrote: > Op maandag 06-04-2009 om 12:12 uur [tijdzone -0400], schreef Mackenzie > Morgan: > > I have no idea what you're talking about for Debian (OpenSSL? but they weren't > > compromised, were they?), > > There has been a compromised Debian webser

Re: Please don't automatic upgrade

2009-04-06 Thread Cody A.W. Somerville
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > ma, 2009-04-06 kello 15:24 +0200, Vincenzo Ciancia kirjoitti: > > Unless you can _guarantee_ that every upgrade will NOT harm the system > > As you point out, it is not possible to guarantee that. However, it is > probably best to point out

Re: Please don't automatic upgrade

2009-04-06 Thread Jan Claeys
Op maandag 06-04-2009 om 12:12 uur [tijdzone -0400], schreef Mackenzie Morgan: > I have no idea what you're talking about for Debian (OpenSSL? but they > weren't > compromised, were they?), There has been a compromised Debian webserver some time ago:

Re: Please don't automatic upgrade

2009-04-06 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Monday 06 April 2009 11:22:07 am Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: > Mackenzie wrote: > > By the way, when was the last time an update (in a stable release) broke X? > > September 2006 is the last (and only!) one I remember. Ever since then, > > there's this horrible fear...come on, the lesson was le

Re: Please don't automatic upgrade

2009-04-06 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
> By the way, when was the last time an update (in a stable release) broke X? > September 2006 is the last (and only!) one I remember. Ever since then, > there's this horrible fear...come on, the lesson was learned, and kernels > aren't being released until their accompanying modules are don

Re: Please don't automatic upgrade

2009-04-06 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Monday 06 April 2009 9:24:40 am Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: > Unless you can _guarantee_ that every upgrade will NOT harm the system > and e.g. make it impossible to login, or break Xorg, it is much wiser if > upgrades are done only by the hand of persons who know how to solve a > glitch. This happe

Re: Please don't automatic upgrade

2009-04-06 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il giorno lun, 06/04/2009 alle 16.32 +0300, Lars Wirzenius ha scritto: > > As you point out, it is not possible to guarantee that. However, it is > probably best to point out that not upgrading can also harm things, > when > it is about security updates. Thus, it would perhaps be best to enable >

Re: Please don't automatic upgrade

2009-04-06 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ma, 2009-04-06 kello 15:24 +0200, Vincenzo Ciancia kirjoitti: > Unless you can _guarantee_ that every upgrade will NOT harm the system As you point out, it is not possible to guarantee that. However, it is probably best to point out that not upgrading can also harm things, when it is about securit

Please don't automatic upgrade

2009-04-06 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il giorno lun, 06/04/2009 alle 08.00 -0400, Andrew Barbaccia ha scritto: > > Now that the Updates Available window opens by itself, it may > help for > it to contain a checkbox for installing future updates by > default. > > > > +1. > > I would s