Re: Shouldn't update-manager's check for updates setting have an hourly option?

2010-07-02 Thread Gareth McCumskey
On Wednesday 23 June 2010 20:32:34 Nathan Dorfman wrote: On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: Nathan Dorfman n...@rtfm.net wrote: On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 10:46 AM, jonas.diaz.1...@gmail.com wrote: I think is very simple...that option can be added

Re: Shouldn't update-manager's check for updates setting have an hourly option?

2010-07-01 Thread Nathan Dorfman
I'm not sure how you can say I honestly cannot think of a single bug (even security related) that would be so critical a user needs it on the hour instead of once a day. What would your reaction be if you were to learn that you had been browsing the web for the past 12 hours with a remotely

Re: Shouldn't update-manager's check for updates setting have an hourly option?

2010-06-24 Thread Loïc Martin
On 23 June 2010 20:18, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: AIUI, it wouldn't help much on Ubuntu since by default u-m doesn't pop up it's window for security updates if it's been opened in the last two days. Why that may happen on Kubuntu, it hasn't been true on any post-Jaunty Ubuntu

Re: Shouldn't update-manager's check for updates setting have an hourly option?

2010-06-24 Thread Scott Kitterman
Loïc Martin loic.mart...@gmail.com wrote: On 23 June 2010 20:18, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: AIUI, it wouldn't help much on Ubuntu since by default u-m doesn't pop up it's window for security updates if it's been opened in the last two days. Why that may happen on Kubuntu,

Subject: Re: Shouldn't update-manager's check for updates setting have an hourly option?

2010-06-24 Thread Davyd McColl
And there I was, thinking there was something wrong with my recently-upgraded machine! Being a lazy dev, I just added a cron job to apt-get update on the hour... So I get hourly checks, as per the original thread, but this isn't exactly friendly for the average user ): --

Re: Shouldn't update-manager's check for updates setting have an hourly option?

2010-06-23 Thread Shane Fagan
On Tue, 2010-06-22 at 22:49 -0400, Nathan Dorfman wrote: Personally, I would prefer it, and I think it's quite reasonable. Thoughts? You have to remember that not everyone has broadband and not everyone can download/upload that much. Checking hourly does add up to a lot of network activity and

Re: Shouldn't update-manager's check for updates setting have an hourly option?

2010-06-23 Thread Joao Pinto
Keep in mind that checking for updates involves a non-trivial download of package lists from all repositories the user is subscribed to. Unfortunately, it is a much more intense operation than it appears. AFAIK the download is only performed if the packages list was changed, if the local

Re: Shouldn't update-manager's check for updates setting have an hourly option?

2010-06-23 Thread Shane Fagan
On Wed, 2010-06-23 at 08:07 +0100, Joao Pinto wrote: Keep in mind that checking for updates involves a non-trivial download of package lists from all repositories the user is subscribed to. Unfortunately, it is a much more intense operation than it

Re: Shouldn't update-manager's check for updates setting have an hourly option?

2010-06-23 Thread Nathan Dorfman
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 2:43 AM, Shane Fagan shanepatrickfa...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Tue, 2010-06-22 at 22:49 -0400, Nathan Dorfman wrote: Personally, I would prefer it, and I think it's quite reasonable. Thoughts? You have to remember that not everyone has broadband and not everyone can

Re: Shouldn't update-manager's check for updates setting have an hourly option?

2010-06-23 Thread jonas . diaz . 1866
Message- From: Nathan Dorfman n...@rtfm.net Sender: ubuntu-devel-discuss-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 10:38:35 To: Shane Faganshanepatrickfa...@ubuntu.com Cc: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Shouldn't update-manager's check for updates setting have

Re: Shouldn't update-manager's check for updates setting have an hourly option?

2010-06-23 Thread Nathan Dorfman
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 10:46 AM, jonas.diaz.1...@gmail.com wrote: I think is very simple...that option can be added but not make it the default choice, so anyone that can and want to activate it will be satisfied. We are just making Ubuntu richer in users' options. I agree. This is exactly

Re: Shouldn't update-manager's check for updates setting have an hourly option?

2010-06-23 Thread jonas . diaz . 1866
-manager's check for updates setting have an hourly option? On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: Nathan Dorfman n...@rtfm.net wrote: On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 10:46 AM,  jonas.diaz.1...@gmail.com wrote: I think is very simple...that option can

Re: Shouldn't update-manager's check for updates setting have an hourly option?

2010-06-23 Thread Scott Kitterman
Nathan Dorfman n...@rtfm.net wrote: On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: Nathan Dorfman n...@rtfm.net wrote: On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 10:46 AM,  jonas.diaz.1...@gmail.com wrote: I think is very simple...that option can be added but not make it the

Re: Shouldn't update-manager's check for updates setting have an hourly option?

2010-06-23 Thread Nathan Dorfman
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: Nathan Dorfman n...@rtfm.net wrote: On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: Nathan Dorfman n...@rtfm.net wrote: On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 10:46 AM,  jonas.diaz.1...@gmail.com

Shouldn't update-manager's check for updates setting have an hourly option?

2010-06-22 Thread Nathan Dorfman
Personally, I would prefer it, and I think it's quite reasonable. Thoughts? -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: Shouldn't update-manager's check for updates setting have an hourly option?

2010-06-22 Thread Tim Hawkins
million machines hitting the update servers every hour. hm On Jun 23, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Nathan Dorfman wrote: Personally, I would prefer it, and I think it's quite reasonable. Thoughts? -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings

Re: Shouldn't update-manager's check for updates setting have an hourly option?

2010-06-22 Thread Dylan McCall
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Nathan Dorfman n...@rtfm.net wrote: Personally, I would prefer it, and I think it's quite reasonable. Thoughts? -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at:

Re: Shouldn't update-manager's check for updates setting have an hourly option?

2010-06-22 Thread Nathan Dorfman
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Dylan McCall dylanmcc...@gmail.com wrote: Keep in mind that checking for updates involves a non-trivial download of package lists from all repositories the user is subscribed to. Unfortunately, it is a much more intense operation than it appears. A fair

Re: Shouldn't update-manager's check for updates setting have an hourly option?

2010-06-22 Thread Erik Andersen
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 21:38, Nathan Dorfman n...@rtfm.net wrote: On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Dylan McCall dylanmcc...@gmail.com wrote: Keep in mind that checking for updates involves a non-trivial download of package lists from all repositories the user is subscribed to.

Re: Shouldn't update-manager's check for updates setting have an hourly option?

2010-06-22 Thread Martin Owens
On Wed, 2010-06-23 at 00:38 -0400, Nathan Dorfman wrote: A fair point, but I think that up to 24 hours without a critical security update could be undesirable in some situations. Certainly, I think the default should remain daily. For what it's worth, Fedora's default is daily but it does