Re: Ubuntu and language packs

2009-09-29 Thread Arne Goetje
raneesh wrote: > can you send details of how to add more local languages in ubuntu 9 > desktop editions. you can install additional language packs by using System->Administration->Language Support Or do you mean "how to translate into yet unsupported languages"? Cheers Arne signature.asc Desc

Ubuntu and language packs

2009-09-29 Thread raneesh
hai can you send details of how to add more local languages in ubuntu 9 desktop editions. i am waiting valuable help from yours side. thanks , reny -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/

Re: Ubuntu and language packs

2009-02-10 Thread Siegfried-Angel
2009/2/5 Loïc Martin : >> Firts, I don't understand why "language-support-translations-XX" >> install a package(s) "thunderbird-locale-xx-XX" when Ubuntu don't >> install thunderbird mail client by default... Ubuntu uses evolution >> as mail client, non? > It's due to the way translations are hand

Re: Ubuntu and language packs

2009-02-09 Thread Didier Roche
2009/2/9 Martin Pitt : > > Due to the reasons Colin pointed out, I think that installing them all > by default is still a good choice. It comes on the CD, so you don't > need to download them during installation, and after installation you > can always remove them completely with System -> Administ

Re: Ubuntu and language packs

2009-02-08 Thread Martin Pitt
Surfaz Gemon Meme [2009-02-09 0:56 +0100]: > Ok, I understand, but what about these packages? > > myspell-en-au > myspell-en-gb > myspell-en-za > openoffice.org-help-en-gb > openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb > openoffice.org-l10n-en-za > openoffice.org-thesaurus-en-au > thunderbird-locale-en-gb > wbritis

Re: Ubuntu and language packs

2009-02-08 Thread Surfaz Gemon Meme
Ok, I understand, but what about these packages? myspell-en-au myspell-en-gb myspell-en-za openoffice.org-help-en-gb openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb openoffice.org-l10n-en-za openoffice.org-thesaurus-en-au thunderbird-locale-en-gb wbritish You need to have English support in 2 types (UK and US) of Engl

Re: Ubuntu and language packs

2009-02-08 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 11:56:50PM +0100, Martin Pitt wrote: > Surfaz Gemon Meme [2009-02-03 0:06 +0100]: > > * Why Ubuntu install English support by default, although I chose > > Spanish support? > > AFAIR this is primarily for historical reasons. In fact I don't see a > lot of reasons to instal

Re: Ubuntu and language packs

2009-02-08 Thread Martin Pitt
Hello Surfaz, Surfaz Gemon Meme [2009-02-03 0:06 +0100]: > * Why Ubuntu install English support by default, although I chose > Spanish support? AFAIR this is primarily for historical reasons. In fact I don't see a lot of reasons to install all English translations/support packages by default, ex

Re: Ubuntu and language packs

2009-02-05 Thread Surfaz Gemon Meme
2009/2/6 Paul Smith : > I thought I'd just post this so everyone is on the same page WRT > internationalization in GNU/Linux systems. For those that already know, > sorry for the noise :-) > > GNU/Linux uses the gettext package for i18n. There are other packages > used by other UNIX systems, whic

Re: Ubuntu and language packs

2009-02-05 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 18:14 -0500, Paul Smith wrote: > IOW, there's really no reason to specifically install the English > language packs, if you don't want to use a locale of en_US or whatever. > Certainly you don't need to do it for any sort of debugging purposes. > If you want to force "no local

Re: Ubuntu and language packs

2009-02-05 Thread Paul Smith
On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 15:47 -0500, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: > On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 20:57 +0100, Surfaz Gemon Meme wrote: > > If they know English, do not need English support of Ubuntu. > > If they do not know English, I do not think the English support of > > Ubuntu could change something. > > Th

Re: Ubuntu and language packs

2009-02-05 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 22:50 +0100, Surfaz Gemon Meme wrote: > 2009/2/5 Mackenzie Morgan : > >> Although the Ubuntu user has installed English translations, he use > >> French as the default language because it was that he chose when he > >> installed Ubuntu. > > > > But that option to re-run with

Re: Ubuntu and language packs

2009-02-05 Thread Surfaz Gemon Meme
2009/2/5 Mackenzie Morgan : >> Although the Ubuntu user has installed English translations, he use >> French as the default language because it was that he chose when he >> installed Ubuntu. > > But that option to re-run with "LANG=en_US firefox" and reproduce the > bug to get English logs is gone

Re: Ubuntu and language packs

2009-02-05 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 22:20 +0100, Surfaz Gemon Meme wrote: > 2009/2/5 Mackenzie Morgan : > > There are different values of "know." They might know enough English to > > file a bug saying "Firefox crashed" but then the logs they post will be > > in, for example, Croatian. Most triagers don't spea

Re: Ubuntu and language packs

2009-02-05 Thread Surfaz Gemon Meme
2009/2/5 Mackenzie Morgan : > There are different values of "know." They might know enough English to > file a bug saying "Firefox crashed" but then the logs they post will be > in, for example, Croatian. Most triagers don't speak Croatian, so we > can't read the logs. And the reporter might not

Re: Ubuntu and language packs

2009-02-05 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 20:57 +0100, Surfaz Gemon Meme wrote: > If they know English, do not need English support of Ubuntu. > If they do not know English, I do not think the English support of > Ubuntu could change something. There are different values of "know." They might know enough English to

Re: Ubuntu and language packs

2009-02-05 Thread Surfaz Gemon Meme
2009/2/5 Loïc Martin : > Surfaz Gemon Meme wrote: >> Firts, I don't understand why "language-support-translations-XX" >> install a package(s) "thunderbird-locale-xx-XX" when Ubuntu don't >> install thunderbird mail client by default... Ubuntu uses evolution >> as mail client, non? > It's due to th

Re: Ubuntu and language packs

2009-02-05 Thread Loïc Martin
Surfaz Gemon Meme wrote: > Firts, I don't understand why "language-support-translations-XX" > install a package(s) "thunderbird-locale-xx-XX" when Ubuntu don't > install thunderbird mail client by default... Ubuntu uses evolution > as mail client, non? It's due to the way translations are handled

Re: Ubuntu and language packs

2009-02-04 Thread Surfaz Gemon Meme
> With regards to the answer you got below ... I am surprised that en-gb > is considered the 'default' when american-english is also impossible > to get rid of. American is the only language that is complete in any > release whereas en-bg or en(uk) always lacks many thousands of > strings! Much a

Re: Ubuntu and language packs

2009-02-04 Thread Surfaz Gemon Meme
OK, and the second response 2009/2/3 Surfaz Gemon Meme : >>> Well, Spanish support of Ubuntu is not full and if I uninstall all >>> English packages (I always do it), I don't have any problem. >>> >>> If there is something untranslated to Spanish, Ubuntu shows me in English. >>> >>> I am not a de

Re: Ubuntu and language packs

2009-02-03 Thread Evan Murphy
Hi Surfaz, I'm forwarding your question to the ubuntu-translators mailing list, where someone may have an answer. Evan Murphy 2009/2/3 Surfaz Gemon Meme : > Well, Spanish support of Ubuntu is not full and if I uninstall all > English packages (I always do it), I don't have any problem. > > If t

Re: Ubuntu and language packs

2009-02-03 Thread Surfaz Gemon Meme
Well, Spanish support of Ubuntu is not full and if I uninstall all English packages (I always do it), I don't have any problem. If there is something untranslated to Spanish, Ubuntu shows me in English. I am not a developer but, I think that almost 100% packages of Ubuntu CD use gettext library f

Re: Ubuntu and language packs

2009-02-03 Thread Sense Hofstede
2009/2/3 Surfaz Gemon Meme : > Hi! I have some doubts > > * Why Ubuntu install English support by default, although I chose > Spanish support? > > I don't want waste 130~ mb space of my hard disk. > > It strikes me that during the installation of Ubuntu is uninstalled > many languages (first, why i

Ubuntu and language packs

2009-02-02 Thread Surfaz Gemon Meme
Hi! I have some doubts * Why Ubuntu install English support by default, although I chose Spanish support? I don't want waste 130~ mb space of my hard disk. It strikes me that during the installation of Ubuntu is uninstalled many languages (first, why install many languages? I only want one!!), b