Re: [ubuntu-marketing] This List Still alive?

2010-08-05 Thread Randall Ross
I'd like to see more focus on intentional marketing, much beyond the current word-of-mouth grass-roots it'll grow organically stuff. Anyone else? http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/21357 (See solution #5) Cheers, Randall Ubuntu Vancouver. On 10-08-04 11:59 AM, supp...@buntfu.com wrote: The

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] This List Still alive?

2010-08-05 Thread alan c
On 05/08/10 17:29, Randall Ross wrote: I'd like to see more focus on intentional marketing, much beyond the current word-of-mouth grass-roots it'll grow organically stuff. Anyone else? http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/21357 (See solution #5) I am with you here. I do marketing in UK at

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] This List Still alive?

2010-08-05 Thread Andy Watson
Hello, I am new here but I thought I would give my two cents on the matter of marketing Ubuntu. From my experience, people (around here at least) want their computer to run Facebook flawlessly and look pretty. As much as I like Ubuntu, it is by no means pretty. Even compared to Windows.

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] This List Still alive?

2010-08-05 Thread support
Most of the points are very valid. I have gone to the ubuntu marketing irc channel and its also very dead. I have been trying to put together a centralized market place for open source / Ubuntu items and have been extremely disappointed with the lack of participation. It seems that the community

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] This List Still alive?

2010-08-05 Thread Andy Watson
I just joined this mailing list last night so I have no idea what has been going on. I have actually been using Ubuntu for years but just last night decided to contribute as much as I can. I am by no means a marketing professional but I'll help out anyway way I can. Andy Watson Hamilton, Ontario

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] This List Still alive?

2010-08-05 Thread Loic Duros
These days, all the effort should be focussed on the folks that are currently switching from PC to Macs. I'm speaking with many of them on a daily basis. They are long time Windows users switching to Mac OS at work, or because it's much trendy these days to say that Windows sucks. (Linux people

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] This List Still alive?

2010-08-05 Thread support
I believe the strongest market for Linux to make true inroads as a viable desktop operating system is the used computer sector. Many individuals would be much more willing to give Linux a try or a chance on a nice used, inexpensive computer rather than shelling out big buck on a brand new

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] This List Still alive?

2010-08-05 Thread alan c
On 05/08/10 19:32, supp...@buntfu.com wrote: centralized market place Market places are really good if populated and used, however, I would say that market 'places' are one aspect of marketing. The more general activity of 'marketing' is something for which the foss community is poorly

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] This List Still alive?

2010-08-05 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
Andy Watson watson...@gmail.com wrote: Security? Not many 'average users' care about security. On paper they do but in the 'wild' they don't. They want it to be easy and quick. Security tends to add additional time to the user experience. I'm not saying this is bad. When I pitch security it's

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] This List Still alive?

2010-08-05 Thread Lisandro Vaccaro
I have been working to coordinate Social Networks in hope of reorganizing them and doing a real campaign across all of them I think they can prove to be a great tool to promote Ubuntu. I've wanted to do a youtube channel for very long but we need people with real skills willing to do it. We can't

[ubuntu-marketing] Used Computers that Don't Run Linux (was Re: This List Still alive?)

2010-08-05 Thread Randall Ross
Good points and I agree in principle. However, I would like to add my thoughts to two areas in your post that I feel weaken the marketing message. 1) The used computer sector is an area of opportunity iff certified (or compatible) systems are marketed over try this and it might work systems.

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] This List Still alive?

2010-08-05 Thread alan c
On 05/08/10 19:41, Loic Duros wrote: Ubuntu is great in so many ways both Windows and Mac are good for. The only negative aspect of Ubuntu compared to Mac is that it's basically free and it has less strong branding. Lots of people believe Apple and Mac OS are just so cool, but what it is

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Used Computers that Don't Run Linux (was Re: This List Still alive?)

2010-08-05 Thread support
Certified systems are looking to far into the future. In other words that is something that needs to be addressed once the bigger problem of Ubuntu / Linux Desktop marketing is tackled. Lets be honest most individuals that can setup a system with Ubuntu are usually able to get all the basics

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] This List Still alive?

2010-08-05 Thread alan c
On 05/08/10 22:11, Elizabeth Krumbach wrote: Free also has a connotation in some country as being not good or sub-standard (certainly this is true in the US), We want to promote Ubuntu because it's good, not because it's a cheap alternative. Free is a choice of word which, in English, is

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] This List Still alive?

2010-08-05 Thread Martin Owens
On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 22:53 +, alan c wrote: On 05/08/10 22:11, Elizabeth Krumbach wrote: Free is a choice of word which, in English, is unfortunately ambiguous. Also everybody knows there is no such thing as a free lunch. Don't they? I DO know that Ubuntu (and FOSS) is different, and