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Nick Ellery schrieb:
On the four points made by Daniel, I can agree with all but the fourth
being beneficial. The reason that different Membership Boards were
created was to allow those that are unable to attend CC meetings to
still apply for
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Daniel Holbach schrieb:
As I said in another mail already: [...]
Oops, it was the same mail that I replied to already, it was just
moderated through ubuntu-de...@... Excusez-moi.
Have a great day,
Daniel
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My 5 today: #315769 (last-align),
On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 02:24:46PM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:
3) Use the wiki
Applications and endorsements shall be drafted on wiki pages, and
presented for review when complete. This will give you the chance to use
a template for the application, where we can make sure that most areas
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Bryce Harrington br...@canonical.com wrote:
For improving the process just for the skill-level consideration, what I
would like to see is sort of a self-directed exercise workbook, with
sets of packaging, bug triage, testing, documentation, etc. tasks. For
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Robert Collins
robe...@robertcollins.net wrote:
I completely agree. MOTU and core-dev membership is a combination of
* technical knowledge [for which two key points apply: arbitrary
have-done-X metrics don't assess any more reliably than peer assessment
of the
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Dustin Kirkland kirkl...@ubuntu.comwrote:
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Robert Collins
robe...@robertcollins.net wrote:
I completely agree. MOTU and core-dev membership is a combination of
* technical knowledge [for which two key points apply: arbitrary
On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 18:14 +0100, Daniel Holbach wrote:
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Hello everybody,
some of you will have noticed that the application processes of the MOTU
Council have been taking several weeks, even months in extreme cases and
we have been very
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Daniel Holbach
daniel.holb...@ubuntu.comwrote:
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I see the mailing list discussion as a time for the MC (and everybody
else) to take a look at the application and to ask for clarification or
ask additional questions.
snip
Will the council be voting at the
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Cody A.W. Somerville schrieb:
Will the council be voting at the IRC Meeting?
Yes.
Have a great day,
Daniel
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My 5 today: #311445 (vbetool), #305256 (gnome-menus), #314794 (ufraw),
#46447 (grabcd), #314887 (yagiuda)
Do 5 a day - every day!
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 09:03:31 +0100 Soren Hansen so...@ubuntu.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 02:24:46PM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:
3) Use the wiki
Applications and endorsements shall be drafted on wiki pages, and
presented for review when complete. This will give you the chance to
use
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 11:28:25 -0400 Cody A.W. Somerville
cody-somervi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
I agree. In the same spirit of having a workbook, we could set guidelines
and not hard fast rules. If we're going to have a workbook, we're setting
some numbers anyhow.
We aren't and we shouldn't.
The
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 7:16 AM, Dustin Kirkland kirkl...@ubuntu.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Robert Collins
robe...@robertcollins.net wrote:
I completely agree. MOTU and core-dev membership is a combination of
* technical knowledge [for which two key points apply: arbitrary
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Scott Kitterman schrieb:
On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:44:20 +0100 Daniel Holbach
daniel.holb...@ubuntu.com wrote:
It will be important for the MOTU Council to be well-prepared for the
meeting, ask questions and be on top of things on the mailing list.
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Dustin Kirkland kirkl...@ubuntu.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Jordan Mantha jordan.man...@gmail.com
wrote:
I don't think that's necessarily a logical conclusion. You're saying
that if the +1/-1 of a MOTU Council member is based on a subjective
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Jordan Mantha jordan.man...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't think that's necessarily a logical conclusion. You're saying
that if the +1/-1 of a MOTU Council member is based on a subjective
decision that they can't use objective data in making that decision.
That is
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Bryce Harrington br...@canonical.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 11:04:35AM -0800, Jordan Mantha wrote:
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Dustin Kirkland kirkl...@ubuntu.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Jordan Mantha jordan.man...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 11:04:35AM -0800, Jordan Mantha wrote:
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Dustin Kirkland kirkl...@ubuntu.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Jordan Mantha jordan.man...@gmail.com
wrote:
I don't think that's necessarily a logical conclusion. You're saying
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Hello everybody,
some of you will have noticed that the application processes of the MOTU
Council have been taking several weeks, even months in extreme cases and
we have been very unhappy with this status quo.
We identified a number of reasons for
Em 07-01-2009 16:07, Dustin Kirkland escreveu:
But, please, please, please let's add some minority element of
objectivity to the processes.
+1
That was my first complain when I first tried be a Motu (which I failed)
and never bothered to try again because of that and different sponsors
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Daniel Holbach
daniel.holb...@ubuntu.com wrote:
We feel that these changes are going to be a notable improvement and we
would like to hear your thoughts on them, so we can move to the new
format real soon now.
Hi Daniel (and MOTU Council)-
Thank you very much
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Dustin Kirkland schrieb:
I really believe the MOTU and Core-Dev application processes would
greatly benefit from some minimal, objective criteria. It should be
perfectly clear that meeting these objective criteria will not be
sufficient, alone,
On Wednesday 07 January 2009 13:22, Daniel Holbach wrote:
Dustin Kirkland schrieb:
I really believe the MOTU and Core-Dev application processes would
greatly benefit from some minimal, objective criteria. It should be
perfectly clear that meeting these objective criteria will not be
On Wednesday 07 January 2009 12:14, Daniel Holbach wrote:
3) Use the wiki
Applications and endorsements shall be drafted on wiki pages, and
presented for review when complete. This will give you the chance to use
a template for the application, where we can make sure that most areas
for the
On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 02:18:09PM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:
On Wednesday 07 January 2009 13:22, Daniel Holbach wrote:
Dustin Kirkland schrieb:
I really believe the MOTU and Core-Dev application processes would
greatly benefit from some minimal, objective criteria. It should be
On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 14:18 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:
People like quantitative criteria because they can be applied without
judgement and with no perception of bias. Everyone has to wait 6
months, so
it's not unfair we say you need to wait too. I really think that
our
process is
On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 13:46 -0800, Bryce Harrington wrote:
For improving the process just for the skill-level consideration, what
I
would like to see is sort of a self-directed exercise workbook, with
sets of packaging, bug triage, testing, documentation, etc. tasks.
For
sponsorees with
On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 07:44:16PM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:
On Wednesday 07 January 2009 19:24, Robert Collins wrote:
On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 13:46 -0800, Bryce Harrington wrote:
For improving the process just for the skill-level consideration, what
I
would like to see is sort of a
Scott Kitterman wrote:
On Wednesday 07 January 2009 13:22, Daniel Holbach wrote:
Dustin Kirkland schrieb:
I really believe the MOTU and Core-Dev application processes would
greatly benefit from some minimal, objective criteria. It should be
perfectly clear that meeting these objective
On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 08:59:24PM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:
On Wednesday 07 January 2009 20:46, Bryce Harrington wrote:
On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 07:44:16PM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:
On Wednesday 07 January 2009 19:24, Robert Collins wrote:
On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 13:46 -0800, Bryce
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Scott Kitterman schrieb:
On Wednesday 07 January 2009 20:46, Bryce Harrington wrote:
On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 07:44:16PM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:
Here's a good list of questions for the workbook:
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Nick Ellery schrieb:
On the four points made by Daniel, I can agree with all but the fourth
being beneficial. The reason that different Membership Boards were
created was to allow those that are unable to attend CC meetings to
still apply for
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Scott Kitterman schrieb:
I would prefer that sponsors still send in their comments via mail. I think
that makes it clearer where the application stops and the sponsors words
start. Emails can (and should) be signed too.
We can make it clear in
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