Re: [Ubuntu-bugcontrol] I have written a draft for the Reporting Bugs guide

2017-06-01 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella
On one hand we have meritocracies, like GNOME, where some people have the final saying about what things are going to be. On the other we have democracies, like Debian, where all the decisions shall be agreed before taken on. The first one has the drawback of usually ignoring individual needs

Re: [Ubuntu-bugcontrol] I have written a draft for the Reporting Bugs guide

2017-05-30 Thread flocculant
On 31/05/17 01:43, C de-Avillez wrote: ... I will simply keep those as short as possible. And instead of making a monologue, with all the information, I would simulate an actual conversation. Usually with 10-20 seconds answers. (https://youtu.be/L45EqUl2q4M) I will not listen to it. If you c

Re: [Ubuntu-bugcontrol] I have written a draft for the Reporting Bugs guide

2017-05-30 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella
Sorry but I spend an hour writing an answer to these emails, but even then I ended with something extra long that I think nobody will read or understand. In fact that's what usually happens when I answer in text. On the other hand when I use video in a couple of minutes I'm usually done. I w

Re: [Ubuntu-bugcontrol] I have written a draft for the Reporting Bugs guide

2017-05-30 Thread C de-Avillez
On Tue, 30 May 2017 20:33:34 +0200 Alberto Salvia Novella wrote: > Sorry but I spend an hour writing an answer to these emails, but even > then I ended with something extra long that I think nobody will read > or understand. Writing is easy. Anybody can write. But *good* writing is difficult. W

Re: [Ubuntu-bugcontrol] I have written a draft for the Reporting Bugs guide

2017-05-30 Thread Dario Ruellan
Something I'm missing on those tutorials is the recommendation for search for updates before reporting the bug, just in case the problem is already fixed. Seem important for me, but I like to hear a second opinion about it. On May 29, 2017 10:50 PM, "C de-Avillez" wrote: > On Sun, 28 May 2017 1

Re: [Ubuntu-bugcontrol] I have written a draft for the Reporting Bugs guide

2017-05-30 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
On 2017-05-30 20:33, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote: Sorry but I spend an hour writing an answer to these emails, but even then I ended with something extra long that I think nobody will read or understand. If you are not able to justify your proposed changes in written text, why would we trust

Re: [Ubuntu-bugcontrol] I have written a draft for the Reporting Bugs guide

2017-05-29 Thread C de-Avillez
On Sun, 28 May 2017 16:54:45 +0200 Alberto Salvia Novella wrote: > About: > (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs) > (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/es20490446e/Reporting%20bugs) OK, let's get thru the proposed page. I will be copying text from the proposed Reporting Bugs so that I can comm

Re: [Ubuntu-bugcontrol] I have written a draft for the Reporting Bugs guide

2017-05-29 Thread Fabio Marconi
Hi Alby What ..C.. just say to you shown the great admiration he has for U. We all thanks U for your effort in this community, and pls, keep his replies as suggestions to be a better man. Thank U, Alby. Thank U, ..C.. Inviato da BlueMail Il giorno 28 mag 2017, a

Re: [Ubuntu-bugcontrol] I have written a draft for the Reporting Bugs guide

2017-05-29 Thread Vej
Hello Alberto, I really like the idea of a shorter manual for Bug Triaging, because the current one was hard to follow as a newbie. But I really dislike the way how you try to press others in accepting it as it is without modifications when writing this: Am 28.05.2017 um 16:54 schrieb Alberto

Re: [Ubuntu-bugcontrol] I have written a draft for the Reporting Bugs guide

2017-05-28 Thread C de-Avillez
On Sun, 28 May 2017 16:54:45 +0200 Alberto Salvia Novella wrote: NB: I have not yet *read* the new proposal. I am just discussing the approach here. > About: > (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs) > (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/es20490446e/Reporting%20bugs) > > Sorry, but I'm absolutel