Re: I'm stopping contributing

2017-06-09 Thread Tux Ace
​Hi Alberto, I only check e-mails on weekends and only heard about you leaving right now. Best luck in your future whatever you choose to do. You have made a big difference to Ubuntu and I think people shouldn't ​be arguing about how videos in mailing lists are bad and stuff and can somebody expl

Re: I'm stopping contributing

2017-06-08 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella
Jono Bacon: it is low bandwidth, you can access it on mobile phones, blind people can understand it with screen readers, multiple clients support it, you can do machine translation on it, etc. Thanks for your input. I think this conversation has went a little through the roof, and better step

Re: I'm stopping contributing

2017-06-08 Thread Jono Bacon
Hi Alberto, Thanks for the interesting discussion, and all the best in your future endeavors! Thanks, On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 4:46 PM, Alberto Salvia Novella < es204904...@gmail.com> wrote: > Jono Bacon: > >> it is low bandwidth, you can access it on mobile phones, blind people can >> understand

Re: I'm stopping contributing

2017-06-08 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella
Jono Bacon: There is though a practicality issue of how people respond to content in a video. Okay, text. -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality

Re: I'm stopping contributing

2017-06-08 Thread Jono Bacon
On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Alberto Salvia Novella < es204904...@gmail.com> wrote: > Alberto: > >> Okay, text. >> > > Well, I really don't feel like it's something I wanted to do any more. > Apart from if it practically makes sense or not. > > Simply I spend a big part of my time alone writin

Re: I'm stopping contributing

2017-06-08 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella
Alberto: Okay, text. Well, I really don't feel like it's something I wanted to do any more. Apart from if it practically makes sense or not. Simply I spend a big part of my time alone writing in front of a computer, and the latest thing that appeals to me is relating with people through te

Re: I'm stopping contributing

2017-06-08 Thread Ralph Figueroa
27;‎ , aka 'thegreatspace' Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.   Original Message   From: Jeffrey Lane Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 1:57 PM To: Ian Bruntlett Cc: Ubuntu Community Team; Ubuntu Quality Team; Ubuntu BugSquad; Jono Bacon Subject: Re: I'm stopping contributing On Thu, Ju

Re: I'm stopping contributing

2017-06-08 Thread Jeffrey Lane
On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 1:35 PM, Ian Bruntlett wrote: > Hi Jono, > > On 8 June 2017 at 17:22, Jono Bacon wrote: > >> There is a huge amount of value in video communication, and it can be an >> easier form of communication for non native-English speakers too. >> > Yes, I appreciate that. My point o

Re: I'm stopping contributing

2017-06-08 Thread Ian Bruntlett
Hi Jono, On 8 June 2017 at 17:22, Jono Bacon wrote: > There is a huge amount of value in video communication, and it can be an > easier form of communication for non native-English speakers too. > Yes, I appreciate that. My point of view is that, whilst I would like to make time available to wat

Re: I'm stopping contributing

2017-06-08 Thread Jono Bacon
There is a huge amount of value in video communication, and it can be an easier form of communication for non native-English speakers too. This is though, a mailing list. It is a medium designed for *text* discussion and collaboration. The purpose of a mailing list is to discuss ideas, approaches,

Re: Odp: Re: I'm stopping contributing

2017-06-08 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
It really continues to be inappropriate for people to police how you choose to communicate and express yourself Alberta. While using a video may be unorthodox it doesn't violate any community rules and those who dislike it are free to scroll past. On Jun 7, 2017 7:00 PM, "Alberto Salvia Novella"

Re: Odp: Re: I'm stopping contributing

2017-06-08 Thread Nathan Haines
On 06/07/2017 07:09 PM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: > It really continues to be inappropriate for people to police how you > choose to communicate and express yourself Alberta. It is not inappropriate to let someone know that he is acting in a way that prevents his communication from being received

Re: Odp: Re: I'm stopping contributing

2017-06-08 Thread José Antonio Rey
Benjamin, I think that what we are raising here was never a policing, but instead asking for etiquette to be followed. He is sending an email to a mailing list and all those involved in them want to participate in the discussion. By having those videos sent, he disables people to follow on the disc

Re: I'm stopping contributing

2017-06-08 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella
Stephen Kellat: > Within the strains of my civil service posting, even machine > translated text is easier for me to approach than video. Before I made video-responses widespread I wanted to warrant it wouldn’t exclude too much people. So I picked up a web-site which was English written, but h

Re: Odp: Re: I'm stopping contributing

2017-06-08 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella
Marcin Xc: "Why" are You still ignoring people who told You that a mailing list is not a right place for links and videos? Especially 10 or 20 minutes long. I understand that people suspect I'm doing things on resistance. Understand me when I choose to point an UI issue actually seeing the UI.

Odp: Re: I'm stopping contributing

2017-06-07 Thread Marcin Xc
"Why" are You still ignoring people who told You that a mailing list is not a right place for links and videos? Especially 10 or 20 minutes long. Dnia czw., cze 8, 2017 o 1:02, Alberto Salvia Novella napisał: Why we have malformed bug reports: (https://youtu.be/sC6wG5Owu4E) Why decision

Re: I'm stopping contributing

2017-06-07 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella
Why we have malformed bug reports: (https://youtu.be/sC6wG5Owu4E) Why decisions are better delegated: (https://youtu.be/9PWW8sryNec) Where to place these help pages: (https://youtu.be/vob02C4dGWI) -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at

Re: I'm stopping contributing

2017-06-06 Thread Svetlana Belkin
On 06/06/2017 07:51 PM, C de-Avillez wrote: Let me be clear on this: I*know* the Reporting Bugs is a mess. I *agree* the pages have to be re-organised, cleaned up, re-written Sorry if this is a useless plug and/or wrong place but I don't follow the bug mailing list. Having that said, instea

Odp: Re: I'm stopping contributing

2017-06-06 Thread Marcin Xc
As I wrote in my previous message Alberto though You shouldn't record movies, I support You with all my heart. Some developer told me once "Unity was intuitive and was tested". My answer was: give a Mate desktop to a 5year old child which can't read and tell him to start a game. No problem in Ma

Re: I'm stopping contributing

2017-06-06 Thread C de-Avillez
On Tue, 6 Jun 2017 21:57:55 +0200 Alberto Salvia Novella wrote: > Speaking about the Roman's king, I have just received this email from > a familiar which I have installed Ubuntu: > > Cousin: > > It gets worse every time, especially at start-up, it hangs and > > needs to restart. > > > Oth

Re: I'm stopping contributing

2017-06-06 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella
Speaking about the Roman's king, I have just received this email from a familiar which I have installed Ubuntu: Cousin: > It gets worse every time, especially at start-up, it hangs and > needs to restart. Other mentions in the latests two months: Father: > It usually hangs at start-up, and mo

Re: I'm stopping contributing

2017-06-06 Thread Omer Akram
Alberto, I have been following you closely for the past few years and have always admired you for the fact that you have tried to keep the bug control scene alive and have actively proposed new ideas. Thank your for contributing and helping to make Ubuntu better. On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 8:16 AM, A

Re: I'm stopping contributing

2017-06-05 Thread Ryein Goddard
Some one stops contributing and a community members response is to chastise him for not communicating the way he wants because he wants to be able to log everything..haha To bad Linus isn’t on this mailing list. He would say stop your whining and watch the video, or move along. The video was

Re: I'm stopping contributing

2017-06-05 Thread José Antonio Rey
Ben, I'm not policing anyone. I'm just asking for a plain text explanation of what's going on, which I've gotten. Now that I've got something to reply to, I'll go ahead and do that in a bit. On 06/05/2017 04:46 AM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: Jose, It's really not your place to police how he ch

Re: I'm stopping contributing

2017-06-05 Thread Felix Lange
The cristisim is actually done with valid rasons: don't use email for video Communication. I would love to read a blog entry from Alberto, but don't have time to watch 20min of video on a piece. Sorry to hear Alberto stop, but also sorry to not know the reasons as yt is not an ootion for open d

Re: I'm stopping contributing

2017-06-05 Thread Felix Lange
The cristisim is actually done with valid rasons: don't use email for video Communication. I would love to read a blog entry from Alberto, but don't have time to watch 20min of video on a piece. Sorry to hear Alberto stop, but also sorry to not know the reasons as yt is not an ootion for open d

Re: I'm stopping contributing

2017-06-05 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella
Marcin Xc: I just think there is just not enough self confidence in Your videos. (https://youtu.be/zZU4zZzEbwo) -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality

Re: I'm stopping contributing

2017-06-05 Thread Baiguai
Benjamin, It seems to me Jose outlined some reasonable arguments for not using videos in mailing lists. I am new to this list/group so I don't know if it is out of line to specify how he can or can't communicate, but I think it is good to note why doing so may be a bad idea. - Norm On 06/0

Re: I'm stopping contributing

2017-06-05 Thread Benjamin Kerensa
Jose, It's really not your place to police how he chooses to communicate with fellow contributors so long as his communication is within the scope of the Ubuntu CoC. Simply put your job is not to police others expression or communication or to try and create rules that the community has not agree

Re: I'm stopping contributing

2017-06-05 Thread José Antonio Rey
Hello Alberto, Before I can reply to this email, I'd like to point out a couple things. First of all, please do not send YouTube videos to mailing lists. Links can break, so references can be non-existant in the future. We like to keep archives, so it's not good to have an archive with broken

Re: I'm stopping contributing

2017-06-05 Thread Leo Arias
Thanks for your contributions Alberto. I hope you find a place in the free software community that's a better fit for you. Good bye. pura vida. -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qual

Re: I'm stopping contributing

2017-06-04 Thread Marcin Xc
bal language is something about ~60-70% of a message. Content is only 30-40%. Cheers Marcin From: Alberto Salvia Novella To: Ubuntu Community Team ; Ubuntu Quality Team ; Ubuntu Documentation Team ; Ubuntu Papercuts Ninjas ; Mark Shuttleworth Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 1:08

I'm stopping contributing

2017-06-04 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella
https://youtu.be/c7Vzg0svBXI -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality