Re: Plasma 5 on Kubuntu 14.10

2014-07-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, July 11, 2014 16:07:54 Rohan Garg wrote: > >> 6) We don't intend to provide upgrade mechanisms for this CD from 14.10 > >> to > >> 15.04 > > > > Does that mean you are deliberately *disabling* the stock upgrade support? > > Well, we're not explicitly disabling upgrades, a user can stil

Re: Plasma 5 on Kubuntu 14.10

2014-07-11 Thread Rohan Garg
>> Does this imply that you are planning to do post-release updates via the >> ppa on top of utopic? Why would you want to do this rather than rolling >> users forward directly to u+1? >> > > Yes, Primarily because this would allows us to judge the quality of upstream > releases, and provide valua

Re: Plasma 5 on Kubuntu 14.10

2014-07-11 Thread Rohan Garg
> Sorry if I wasn't clear earlier. I think there is no problem with you > moving forward with such a tech preview image built from a ppa. My Yay! :D > objection is only to publishing it as a "release" under cdimage.ubuntu.com > come 14.10, since it will not be built from supported packages. >

Re: Plasma 5 on Kubuntu 14.10

2014-07-10 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 08:40:53PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > > On Wednesday, July 02, 2014 10:49:17 Steve Langasek wrote: > > > ... > > >> Because you're building it from a ppa, so it's not a remix. > > > ... > > > Canonical has published "remixes" that included PPA packages, so there's

Re: Plasma 5 on Kubuntu 14.10

2014-07-10 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi again, On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 11:48:44AM +0200, Rohan Garg wrote: > So ... Could we move forward with this? Sorry if I wasn't clear earlier. I think there is no problem with you moving forward with such a tech preview image built from a ppa. My objection is only to publishing it as a "relea

Re: Plasma 5 on Kubuntu 14.10

2014-07-10 Thread Rohan Garg
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Rohan Garg wrote: >> Is Framework 5 (et.al) going to be co-installable with KDE4? > > Yes. > >> If yes, why a separate PPA is needed, instead of uploading everything >> into the archive? (even if daily / from git snapshot code) >> > > Because frameworks are just the

Re: Plasma 5 on Kubuntu 14.10

2014-07-08 Thread Rohan Garg
> Is Framework 5 (et.al) going to be co-installable with KDE4? Yes. > If yes, why a separate PPA is needed, instead of uploading everything > into the archive? (even if daily / from git snapshot code) > Because frameworks are just the libraries, the workspace bits are not meant to be co-installa

Re: Plasma 5 on Kubuntu 14.10

2014-07-03 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, July 03, 2014 08:26:33 Alan Pope wrote: > On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 5:58 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Wednesday, July 02, 2014 10:49:17 Steve Langasek wrote: > > ... > > > >> Because you're building it from a ppa, so it's not a remix. > > > > ... > > > > Canonical has published

Re: Plasma 5 on Kubuntu 14.10

2014-07-03 Thread Jonathan Riddell
On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 03:23:44PM +0100, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > Is Framework 5 (et.al) going to be co-installable with KDE4? > If yes, why a separate PPA is needed, instead of uploading everything > into the archive? (even if daily / from git snapshot code) No, Plasma 5 and related packages

Re: Plasma 5 on Kubuntu 14.10

2014-07-03 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
On 3 July 2014 13:11, Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:27:03 Jonathan Riddell wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 10:04:00AM +0100, Iain Lane wrote: >> > I was simply answering the point about remixes and PPAs. >> >> Calling it technical preview would be my preferred option. >>

Re: Plasma 5 on Kubuntu 14.10

2014-07-03 Thread Alan Pope
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 5:58 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Wednesday, July 02, 2014 10:49:17 Steve Langasek wrote: > ... >> Because you're building it from a ppa, so it's not a remix. > ... > > Canonical has published "remixes" that included PPA packages, so there's > nothing novel about this. I

Re: Plasma 5 on Kubuntu 14.10

2014-07-03 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:27:03 Jonathan Riddell wrote: > On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 10:04:00AM +0100, Iain Lane wrote: > > I was simply answering the point about remixes and PPAs. > > Calling it technical preview would be my preferred option. > > Not being able to make a release is a bigger pro

Re: Plasma 5 on Kubuntu 14.10

2014-07-03 Thread Jonathan Riddell
On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 10:04:00AM +0100, Iain Lane wrote: > I was simply answering the point about remixes and PPAs. Calling it technical preview would be my preferred option. Not being able to make a release is a bigger problem, people need a known working image that they can test on. It would

Re: Plasma 5 on Kubuntu 14.10

2014-07-03 Thread Iain Lane
On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 09:57:47AM +0100, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 09:38:00AM +0100, Iain Lane wrote: > > The old trademark policy > > > > > > https://web.archive.org/web/20130319043422/http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy > > > > included the text > > > >

Re: Plasma 5 on Kubuntu 14.10

2014-07-03 Thread Jonathan Riddell
On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 09:38:00AM +0100, Iain Lane wrote: > The old trademark policy > > > https://web.archive.org/web/20130319043422/http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy > > included the text > > In general, a Remix can have applications from the Ubuntu archives and > approved

Re: Plasma 5 on Kubuntu 14.10

2014-07-03 Thread Iain Lane
On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 10:49:17AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 07:09:14PM +0200, Rohan Garg wrote: > > > Ok. So I think this seems generally reasonable, and in line with what the > > > Kubuntu team has done in the past for preview images. I don't think we > > > want >

Re: Plasma 5 on Kubuntu 14.10

2014-07-02 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, July 02, 2014 10:49:17 Steve Langasek wrote: ... > Because you're building it from a ppa, so it's not a remix. ... Canonical has published "remixes" that included PPA packages, so there's nothing novel about this. I can't seem to find the official definition of a Remix on Ubuntu.

Re: Plasma 5 on Kubuntu 14.10

2014-07-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 07:09:14PM +0200, Rohan Garg wrote: > > Ok. So I think this seems generally reasonable, and in line with what the > > Kubuntu team has done in the past for preview images. I don't think we want > > to have an official released 14.10 ISO that's built from a ppa, but we do >

Re: Plasma 5 on Kubuntu 14.10

2014-07-02 Thread Rohan Garg
> Ok. So I think this seems generally reasonable, and in line with what the > Kubuntu team has done in the past for preview images. I don't think we want > to have an official released 14.10 ISO that's built from a ppa, but we do > have the capabilities now to build images from ppa which we didn'

Re: Plasma 5 on Kubuntu 14.10

2014-07-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 06:39:55PM +0200, Rohan Garg wrote: > Hey > > I had read your email, but didn't see any questions in it. What are you > > looking for from the release team on this? > Alright, I guess it's not clear enough in my email, sorry about that, > but basically, the Kubuntu team w

Re: Plasma 5 on Kubuntu 14.10

2014-07-02 Thread Rohan Garg
Hey > I had read your email, but didn't see any questions in it. What are you > looking for from the release team on this? Alright, I guess it's not clear enough in my email, sorry about that, but basically, the Kubuntu team would like to ship an ISO with a PPA enabled by default ( this PPA is e

Re: Plasma 5 on Kubuntu 14.10

2014-07-02 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Rohan, On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 06:30:05PM +0200, Rohan Garg wrote: > Bump? I had read your email, but didn't see any questions in it. What are you looking for from the release team on this? Thanks, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Develop

Re: Plasma 5 on Kubuntu 14.10

2014-07-02 Thread Rohan Garg
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Rohan Garg wrote: > ## Description > > Plasma 5 is an evolutionary release of the popular plasma desktop > workspace. Plasma 5 runs on top of a fully hardware-accelerated > graphics stack, > using Qt 5, QML 2 and an OpenGL(-ES) scenegraph to deliver graphics > ont

Plasma 5 on Kubuntu 14.10

2014-06-26 Thread Rohan Garg
## Description Plasma 5 is an evolutionary release of the popular plasma desktop workspace. Plasma 5 runs on top of a fully hardware-accelerated graphics stack, using Qt 5, QML 2 and an OpenGL(-ES) scenegraph to deliver graphics onto the users' screens. This allows the rendering to be faster, mor