Re: [ubuntu-uk] LUGs

2007-03-28 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
Quoting TheVeech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> There are way to many people (and this isn't specicially directed at you) in >> the UK standing by looking on saying "that LUG is dead" without actually >> getting off their arse and doing something about it. IMHO. > > You're right, though, and this has bee

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LUGs

2007-03-28 Thread Ben Thorp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 29/03/2007 02:02:16: > On 29/03/07, Pete Ryland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >This is a free (IIRC) event with a great mix of fun and energetic > talks, social time, and stall > > information. > > Nope, not free. It costs, but you can email them and ask for a > concessi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu-uk graphics

2007-03-28 Thread Matthew East
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 09:21 +0100, Chris Rowson wrote: > > Not really a turnaround. The trademark policy is quite clear on > > modifying the logo. > > > > http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy > > > > Those have been the same since at least 2005, probably longer. > > > > In which case nowt

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LUGs

2007-03-28 Thread Sean Miller
Alan Pope wrote: > My local LUG meets are great fun. They are a tremendously social event with > a lot of chat and general shooting the breeze. > > The tech stuff can get deep but it's not like you have to sit and talk to > someone about the subtleties of one kernel config parameter over another,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LUGs

2007-03-28 Thread Freddie Ruddick
On 29/03/07, Pete Ryland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >This is a free (IIRC) event with a great mix of fun and energetic talks, social time, and stall > information. Nope, not free. It costs, but you can email them and ask for a concession and if your reason is funny/odd enough, you get one. http://

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LUGs

2007-03-28 Thread Pete Ryland
On 28/03/07, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 08:17:39PM +0100, TheVeech wrote: > > Any national events? > A friend of mine organised a national install day a few years ago and I > think his current opinion is "never again". It's like herding cats. Each LUG > has its o

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ktorrent, firewall and blocked connections

2007-03-28 Thread alan c
Neil Greenwood wrote: > On 28/03/07, alan c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I am mystified though about the service names (and associated ports) >> at the time. For example one was Gatecrasher (service name) and this >> was trying to go out on port 6969 and google indicates this is a >> (windows) tro

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LUGs

2007-03-28 Thread Alan Pope
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 08:54:08PM +0100, Caroline Ford wrote: > On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 20:33 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: > > > > > Well, we often invite other LUGs to come and visit us, and we invite > > ourselves to other LUGs where practical. We have had a joint meeting at > > Surry LUG meeting v

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ktorrent, firewall and blocked connections

2007-03-28 Thread Neil Greenwood
On 28/03/07, alan c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am mystified though about the service names (and associated ports) > at the time. For example one was Gatecrasher (service name) and this > was trying to go out on port 6969 and google indicates this is a > (windows) trojan. Hi Alan, I can't answ

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LUGs

2007-03-28 Thread Sean Miller
Caroline Ford wrote: > GLLUG (Greater London LUG) has a wide catchment area and has people > coming from all over the place! > > As a more technical and less drinking orientated (although that goes on > afterwards) we get a really diverse bunch. > > I've read on some lists that some women feel unco

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LUGs

2007-03-28 Thread Caroline Ford
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 20:33 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: > > Well, we often invite other LUGs to come and visit us, and we invite > ourselves to other LUGs where practical. We have had a joint meeting at > Surry LUG meeting venue (RedHat in Guildford), and on a number of occassions > people from Su

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LUGs

2007-03-28 Thread Alan Pope
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 08:28:08PM +0100, TheVeech wrote: > But where is it written that people who disagree have to go at it hammer > and tongues or descend into personal animosity? No doubt most of us > have been there, but at least some of us learn from it. 'Growing up' is > what I think it's

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LUGs

2007-03-28 Thread Stuart Parkington
TheVeech wrote: >>> I'd have thought they were a bit of a geekfest, not having been to one, >>> but I'm probably way off the mark. Trouble is, the one for my neck of >>> the woods is supposed to be active but its website hasn't been updated >>> for a long time. These days, is it time better spen

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LUGs

2007-03-28 Thread Alan Pope
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 08:17:39PM +0100, TheVeech wrote: > No worries. Seriously, I think most people's ideas of them are that > they're a bit like a geekfest, something akin to a Star Trek convention > (which also caricatures them!). That said, the people I know who are > proficient with Linux

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LUGs

2007-03-28 Thread TheVeech
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 20:10 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 07:31:04PM +0100, Rob Beard wrote: > > I'm a member of the Devon & Cornwall LUG (or Devon & Cornwall GLUG as it > > was renamed). Most of the time the members are helpful and there are > > some good discussions on ther

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LUGs

2007-03-28 Thread TheVeech
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 19:28 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 06:34:37PM +0100, TheVeech wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 16:35 +0100, Tony Travis wrote: > > > TheVeech wrote: > > > > Just curious. Anyone a member? If so, what's yours like? > > > > > > > > I'd have thought they w

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LUGs

2007-03-28 Thread Alan Pope
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 07:31:04PM +0100, Rob Beard wrote: > I'm a member of the Devon & Cornwall LUG (or Devon & Cornwall GLUG as it > was renamed). Most of the time the members are helpful and there are > some good discussions on there, occasionally there are flame wars > though, one recently

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LUGs

2007-03-28 Thread TheVeech
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 18:59 +0100, Robin Menneer wrote: > On 3/28/07, TheVeech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 16:35 +0100, Tony Travis wrote: > > > TheVeech wrote: > > > > Just curious. Anyone a member? If so, what's yours like? > > > > > > > > I'd have thought they were a b

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LUGs

2007-03-28 Thread Rob Beard
TheVeech wrote: > Just curious. Anyone a member? If so, what's yours like? > > I'd have thought they were a bit of a geekfest, not having been to one, > but I'm probably way off the mark. Trouble is, the one for my neck of > the woods is supposed to be active but its website hasn't been updated

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LUGs

2007-03-28 Thread Alan Pope
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 06:34:37PM +0100, TheVeech wrote: > On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 16:35 +0100, Tony Travis wrote: > > TheVeech wrote: > > > Just curious. Anyone a member? If so, what's yours like? > > > > > > I'd have thought they were a bit of a geekfest, not having been to one, > > > but I'm p

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LUGs

2007-03-28 Thread Robin Menneer
On 3/28/07, TheVeech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 16:35 +0100, Tony Travis wrote: > > TheVeech wrote: > > > Just curious. Anyone a member? If so, what's yours like? > > > > > > I'd have thought they were a bit of a geekfest, not having been to one, > > > but I'm probably way

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LUGs

2007-03-28 Thread TheVeech
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 16:58 +0100, Colin McCarthy wrote: > > > On 3/28/07, TheVeech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Trouble is, the one for my neck of > the woods is supposed to be active but its website hasn't been > updated > for a long time. > > > What is your n

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LUGs

2007-03-28 Thread TheVeech
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 16:35 +0100, Tony Travis wrote: > TheVeech wrote: > > Just curious. Anyone a member? If so, what's yours like? > > > > I'd have thought they were a bit of a geekfest, not having been to one, > > but I'm probably way off the mark. Trouble is, the one for my neck of > > the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LUGs

2007-03-28 Thread TheVeech
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 16:14 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 03:53:13PM +0100, TheVeech wrote: > > Just curious. Anyone a member? If so, what's yours like? > > > > My local one is quite active. Well, there are two near me, Hampshire and > Surrey. Hampshire meets every month on

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LUGs

2007-03-28 Thread Tony Travis
TheVeech wrote: > Just curious. Anyone a member? If so, what's yours like? > > I'd have thought they were a bit of a geekfest, not having been to one, > but I'm probably way off the mark. Trouble is, the one for my neck of > the woods is supposed to be active but its website hasn't been updated

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LUGs

2007-03-28 Thread Colin McCarthy
On 3/28/07, TheVeech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Trouble is, the one for my neck of the woods is supposed to be active but its website hasn't been updated for a long time. What is your neck of the woods? I am a member of the Kent LUG and we are quiet active. It is great to 'physically' meet

Re: [ubuntu-uk] least connections ipvs lvs

2007-03-28 Thread Pete Ryland
On 27/03/07, xx xx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey pete: > ndb is a pseud cluster solution provided for mysql it acts as loadbalancer > and failover solution. And actually ultramonkey layer 7 is using it for > mysql loadbalancing. > Unfortunatelly ndb doesnt work well by itself. > Thanks mate > >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Novell adverts

2007-03-28 Thread Alan Pope
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 04:16:37PM +0100, Martin Fitzpatrick wrote: > Bad form replying to myself but the first half hour of digging threw > up this link > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WinFOSS from the opencd.org folks > themselves. On this page it mentions that the Live CD itself contains > F

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Novell adverts

2007-03-28 Thread Martin Fitzpatrick
On 28/03/07, Martin Fitzpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 27/03/07, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 11:44:06PM +0100, Martin Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > I do wonder how much something like this would cost us to do. It's > > > perfectly possible (and acceptable -

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Novell adverts

2007-03-28 Thread Alan Pope
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 03:55:49PM +0100, Martin Fitzpatrick wrote: > On 27/03/07, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We do have a moribund project listed on the UKTeam wiki page to look at CD > > duplication services. Would you like to help us do that? > > Missed this bit. > > That project

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LUGs

2007-03-28 Thread Alan Pope
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 03:53:13PM +0100, TheVeech wrote: > Just curious. Anyone a member? If so, what's yours like? > My local one is quite active. Well, there are two near me, Hampshire and Surrey. Hampshire meets every month on or near the first saturday in the month. We have two locations

Re: [ubuntu-uk] K3B

2007-03-28 Thread Ian Davies \(2\)
Ok thanks- maybe I'll give that a go. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TheVeech Sent: 28 March 2007 15:47 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] K3B On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 15:33 +0100, baz wrote: > On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 15:20 +0100

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Novell adverts

2007-03-28 Thread TheVeech
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 14:02 +0100, TheVeech wrote: > > Think how much more productive those hours would be answering > questions online though? A few hours in #ubuntu or on the support > tracker - or forums - could yield results that benefit so many > people. I forgot to add that I will follow th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Novell adverts

2007-03-28 Thread Martin Fitzpatrick
On 27/03/07, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 11:44:06PM +0100, Martin Fitzpatrick wrote: > > I do wonder how much something like this would cost us to do. It's > > perfectly possible (and acceptable - taking into account running > > We do have a moribund project liste

[ubuntu-uk] LUGs

2007-03-28 Thread TheVeech
Just curious. Anyone a member? If so, what's yours like? I'd have thought they were a bit of a geekfest, not having been to one, but I'm probably way off the mark. Trouble is, the one for my neck of the woods is supposed to be active but its website hasn't been updated for a long time. These d

Re: [ubuntu-uk] K3B

2007-03-28 Thread TheVeech
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 15:33 +0100, baz wrote: > On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 15:20 +0100, Ian Davies (2) wrote: > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I have Ubuntu Edgy on a Sony Vaio laptop and I would like to install > > the K3B CD/DVD burning software- does anyone know if it’s available > > for Edgy? > > >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] K3B

2007-03-28 Thread Ian Davies \(2\)
Ok- weirdit said 'BREAK- install' when I tried to install it in Adept, so I wasn't sure if it was only for Dapper or something.! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Pope Sent: 28 March 2007 15:36 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Novell adverts

2007-03-28 Thread Martin Fitzpatrick
On 27/03/07, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Would we really want to provide Ubuntu unsupported - I'd feel there > > would be too many opportunities for mistakes and damage to computers. > > Free software for Windows however - one step at a time... Of course > > this is not a big-store-onl

Re: [ubuntu-uk] K3B

2007-03-28 Thread Alan Pope
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 03:20:09PM +0100, Ian Davies (2) wrote: > Hello, > > > > I have Ubuntu Edgy on a Sony Vaio laptop and I would like to install the K3B > CD/DVD burning software- does anyone know if it's available for Edgy? > > Best way to find that out:- http://packages.ubuntu.com/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] K3B

2007-03-28 Thread baz
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 15:20 +0100, Ian Davies (2) wrote: > Hello, > > > > I have Ubuntu Edgy on a Sony Vaio laptop and I would like to install > the K3B CD/DVD burning software- does anyone know if it’s available > for Edgy? > Yes it is, I've just installed it. Baz -- +

Re: [ubuntu-uk] truetype fonts on Edgy

2007-03-28 Thread baz
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 15:25 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 03:11:02PM +0100, baz wrote: > > I'm trying to install M S true type fonts on Edgy but when I type, > > sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts > > > > I get, > > Package msttcorefonts is not available, but is referred to by

[ubuntu-uk] K3B

2007-03-28 Thread Ian Davies \(2\)
Hello, I have Ubuntu Edgy on a Sony Vaio laptop and I would like to install the K3B CD/DVD burning software- does anyone know if it's available for Edgy? Thanks, Ian -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] truetype fonts on Edgy

2007-03-28 Thread Alan Pope
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 03:11:02PM +0100, baz wrote: > I'm trying to install M S true type fonts on Edgy but when I type, > sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts > > I get, > Package msttcorefonts is not available, but is referred to by another > package. > This may mean that the package is missing,

[ubuntu-uk] truetype fonts on Edgy

2007-03-28 Thread baz
I'm trying to install M S true type fonts on Edgy but when I type, sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts I get, Package msttcorefonts is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Pa

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Novell adverts

2007-03-28 Thread TheVeech
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 12:35 +0100, Ben Thorp wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 28/03/2007 12:15:01: > > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 11:14:48AM +0100, Ben Thorp wrote: > > > Back in the good old days when I was first trying Linux, there was > a > > > website where you could submit tickets for o

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Novell adverts

2007-03-28 Thread TheVeech
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 10:57 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 09:53:17AM +0100, TheVeech wrote: > > There seems to be two models of support here: the one found primarily in > > the proprietary world and that found in the FLOSS one. > > I disagree. In the proprietary world you can p

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Novell adverts

2007-03-28 Thread Ben Thorp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 28/03/2007 12:15:01: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 11:14:48AM +0100, Ben Thorp wrote: > > Back in the good old days when I was first trying Linux, there was a > > website where you could submit tickets for one-to-one email support. Your > > ticket got assigned to a volunt

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Novell adverts

2007-03-28 Thread Alan Pope
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 11:14:48AM +0100, Ben Thorp wrote: > Back in the good old days when I was first trying Linux, there was a > website where you could submit tickets for one-to-one email support. Your > ticket got assigned to a volunteer, who would then try and help you > through the proces

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Novell adverts

2007-03-28 Thread Ben Thorp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 28/03/2007 10:57:19: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 09:53:17AM +0100, TheVeech wrote: > > There seems to be two models of support here: the one found primarily in > > the proprietary world and that found in the FLOSS one. > > I disagree. In the proprietary world you can pay

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Support Line

2007-03-28 Thread Alan Pope
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 10:43:00AM +0100, Chris Rowson wrote: > I wonder if anyone has ever thought about setting up an Ubuntu > community support line? > Given how many companies are having difficulty providing paid-for support, I am unsure how we as volunteers can provide such a service cost e

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Novell adverts

2007-03-28 Thread Alan Pope
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 09:53:17AM +0100, TheVeech wrote: > There seems to be two models of support here: the one found primarily in > the proprietary world and that found in the FLOSS one. I disagree. In the proprietary world you can pay for support or you can google, use forums, irc and so on.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ktorrent, firewall and blocked connections

2007-03-28 Thread alan c
alan c wrote: > Tony Arnold wrote: >> Alan, >> >> alan c wrote: >> >>> I note that I have FTP allowed in firestarter for outbound on ports >>> 20-21, but presumably that is not he same ftp function you describe? >> >> No, the outbound ports you allow will let users of your machine use ftp >> to

[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Support Line

2007-03-28 Thread Chris Rowson
I wonder if anyone has ever thought about setting up an Ubuntu community support line? Using VoIP technology it's not actually too difficult to get a landline number routed to VoIP at little or no cost. Does anyone think that setting up a voluntary 'community help desk' telephone line could help

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Novell adverts

2007-03-28 Thread TheVeech
On Tue, 2007-03-27 at 23:59 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: > > Would we really want to provide Ubuntu unsupported - I'd feel there > > would be too many opportunities for mistakes and damage to > computers. > > Free software for Windows however - one step at a time... Of course > > this is not a big-store

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu-uk graphics

2007-03-28 Thread Chris Rowson
> Not really a turnaround. The trademark policy is quite clear on > modifying the logo. > > http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy > > Those have been the same since at least 2005, probably longer. > In which case nowt has changed then ;-) So there should be no problem with submitting modi