Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrades? updates?

2007-04-21 Thread Tony Arnold
Alan, alan c wrote: Is automatic update and upgrade both the same thing? I would usually change from one version to the next by manual install - if I used the automatic method would it be called 'upgrade'? In kubuntu adept package manager I see a menu item 'Full Upgrade' is this intended

[ubuntu-uk] Graphical configuration for ndiswrapper in Feisty

2007-04-21 Thread Michael
Hi, I've been trying to wean a newbie off Pardus with its risible attitude to security (as he explains, the reason I want to use Linux isn't the security, it's the stability), but with his minimal command line skills Kubuntu needs to have graphical tools for installing wireless card drivers via

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Graphical configuration for ndiswrapper in Feisty

2007-04-21 Thread Chris Rowson
Yes it does mate: The Ndisgtk package does this (Windows Wireless Drivers in add/remove programs). Install it and it creates a Windows Wireless Drivers entry in system administration. You can now point it to the .inf file from a Windows driver disk You never know it just might work ;-)

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Graphical configuration for ndiswrapper in Feisty

2007-04-21 Thread Michael
Chris Rowson wrote On 04/21/2007 12:01 PM: Yes it does mate: The Ndisgtk package does this (Windows Wireless Drivers in add/remove programs). Install it and it creates a Windows Wireless Drivers entry in system administration. You can now point it to the .inf file from a Windows driver

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Graphical configuration for ndiswrapper in Feisty

2007-04-21 Thread Michael
Chris Rowson wrote On 04/21/2007 12:22 PM: His only internet access is via wireless; so Ndisgtk's not included on the CD, then ;-) It's not, but if you're a glutton for punishment, you could get it from here for him: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/net/ndisgtk transfer it across

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Graphical configuration for ndiswrapper in Feisty

2007-04-21 Thread Chris Rowson
Oh bollocks. We don't want to scare the lad, so I'm afraid it's going to have to be PCLinuxOS :-( I'm surprised, doesn't he have a wired ethernet connection on his PC ? Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Graphical configuration for ndiswrapper in Feisty

2007-04-21 Thread Michael
Chris Rowson wrote On 04/21/2007 12:39 PM: Oh bollocks. We don't want to scare the lad, so I'm afraid it's going to have to be PCLinuxOS :-( I'm surprised, doesn't he have a wired ethernet connection on his PC ? Chris Apparently not. He's from Holland, where they do things

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Graphical configuration for ndiswrapper in Feisty

2007-04-21 Thread Michael
Chris Rowson wrote On 04/21/2007 01:18 PM: Going back to the security aspect (http://bugs.pardus.org.tr/show_bug.cgi?id=5313), it's terrifying to see how ex-Windows user are willing to sacrifice Linux security culture for the sake a shiny desktop, and scarier still that none of the reviewers

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Graphical configuration for ndiswrapper in Feisty

2007-04-21 Thread David Morley
try the dvd rather than the cd On 21/04/07, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Rowson wrote On 04/21/2007 01:18 PM: Going back to the security aspect (http://bugs.pardus.org.tr/show_bug.cgi?id=5313), it's terrifying to see how ex-Windows user are willing to sacrifice Linux security

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Feisty upgrade

2007-04-21 Thread baz
Only problem is the suspend functionality. If I pick the suspend option when logging out, it seems to work. If I set it to suspend when I close the lid, I get the gdm login screen when I bring it back up. Is this fixable? Note I had similar problems under Edgy. It sort of works on

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Feisty upgrade

2007-04-21 Thread baz
On Sat, 2007-04-21 at 11:14 +0100, Chris Rowson wrote: The era of the Linux Desktop is nigh.. Crhsi All my hardware worked, even wifi printing and scanner. I'd say the era of the Linux Desktop is . HERE! Baz -- + http://walkertopia.com Free Multi User

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Feisty upgrade

2007-04-21 Thread Stephen Morrish
On 4/21/07, baz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2007-04-21 at 11:14 +0100, Chris Rowson wrote: The era of the Linux Desktop is nigh.. Crhsi All my hardware worked, even wifi printing and scanner. I'd say the era of the Linux Desktop is . HERE! Baz --

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Graphical configuration for ndiswrapper in Feisty

2007-04-21 Thread Michael
David Morley wrote On 04/21/2007 02:05 PM: try the dvd rather than the cd Thanks, but I wouldn't want to make presumptions about the size of my Dutch friend's monthly cap. Is there a simple way of finding out whether all the Ndisgtk dependencies are satisfied by a default Feisty CD install?

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Graphical configuration for ndiswrapper in Feisty

2007-04-21 Thread Chris Rowson
Is there a simple way of finding out whether all the Ndisgtk dependencies are satisfied by a default Feisty CD install? I'd guess so (http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/net/ndisgtk), but you never can tell. I'm not sure - the only way I can think of is to work your way backward --

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Graphical configuration for ndiswrapper in Feisty

2007-04-21 Thread Chris Rowson
Is there a simple way of finding out whether all the Ndisgtk dependencies are satisfied by a default Feisty CD install? I'd guess so (http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/net/ndisgtk), but you never can tell. I'm not sure - the only way I can think of is to work your way backward Or I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Feisty upgrade

2007-04-21 Thread Lee Tambiah
On 4/21/07, Tony Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Baz baz wrote: Only problem is the suspend functionality. If I pick the suspend option when logging out, it seems to work. If I set it to suspend when I close the lid, I get the gdm login screen when I bring it back up. Is this fixable? Note

[ubuntu-uk] Loading Ubuntu on to a Mac mini

2007-04-21 Thread Robin Menneer
It seems likely that I will acquire a new Mac mini, What's the procedure for using Ubuntu on it and can I run it at the same time as Tiger. Do I get a disc or do I download it from the web ? Would a different version of Linux suit Mac better, if so what ? I have no interest in electronic

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Loading Ubuntu on to a Mac mini

2007-04-21 Thread Alec Wright
If it's an old PowerPC mac, you'll need this image: http://gb.cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/7.04/release/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-powerpc.iso (http://gb.cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/7.04/release/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-powerpc.iso.torrent for the torrent) If its a new intel one, you'll need

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Loading Ubuntu on to a Mac mini

2007-04-21 Thread Robin Menneer
On 4/21/07, Alec Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it's an old PowerPC mac, you'll need this image: http://gb.cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/7.04/release/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-powerpc.iso( http://gb.cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/7.04/release/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-powerpc.iso.torrentfor

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Loading Ubuntu on to a Mac mini

2007-04-21 Thread Alec Wright
On Sat, 2007-04-21 at 19:22 +0100, Robin Menneer wrote: It'll be a brand new basic intel version. Sorry but wot's an image and wot does one do with it. Surely it is nothing to do with a mirror which I understand issues programs on the web. Download the

[ubuntu-uk] 7.04 upgrade tool crash - how to assess next action?

2007-04-21 Thread alan c
I upgraded kubuntu 6.10 to 7.04 via the automatic upgrader, and things seemed to go ok for pretty well the full 2 1/2 hours (approximately), but near the end when it looked as if files were being re written, the crash notification appeared. Internet connection did not seem to be effective at

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 7.04 upgrade tool crash - how to assess next action?

2007-04-21 Thread Alec Wright
In the terminal, do this command: sudo aptitude update ; sudo aptitude upgrade Then you'll be using proper ubuntu feisty. To confirm this, do this command: lsb_release -sc And it should say feisty On Sat, 2007-04-21 at 20:13 +0100, alan c wrote: I upgraded kubuntu 6.10 to 7.04 via the automatic

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 7.04 upgrade tool crash - how to assess next action?

2007-04-21 Thread alan c
Alec Wright wrote: In the terminal, do this command: sudo aptitude update ; sudo aptitude upgrade Then you'll be using proper ubuntu feisty. To confirm this, do this command: lsb_release -sc And it should say feisty Thanks! will do it alan c On Sat, 2007-04-21 at 20:13 +0100, alan c

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Feisty upgrade

2007-04-21 Thread Sean Miller
Sigh! Having freed space, I now have the following error... Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-updates/main/source/Sources.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1) Ideas??! I've tried it several times over several hours and still the same code HELP! I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Feisty upgrade

2007-04-21 Thread Tony Arnold
Lee, Lee Tambiah wrote: On 4/21/07, *Tony Arnold* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Baz baz wrote: Only problem is the suspend functionality. If I pick the suspend option when logging out, it seems to work. If I set it to suspend when I

[ubuntu-uk] Spread Ubuntu: More stuff added

2007-04-21 Thread Robin Stent
Just wanted to let you know that I've added a load of marketing material to my Spread Ubuntu site. As well as some of the more obviously available stuff I've collated items from various forum posts etc that should be a useful resource for people who want to help spread Ubuntu. Have a look, let

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 7.04 upgrade tool crash - how to assess next action?

2007-04-21 Thread alan c
alan c wrote: Alec Wright wrote: In the terminal, do this command: sudo aptitude update ; sudo aptitude upgrade Then you'll be using proper ubuntu feisty. To confirm this, do this command: lsb_release -sc And it should say feisty Thanks! will do it alan c It worked well, thanks

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 7.04 upgrade tool crash - how to assess next action?

2007-04-21 Thread Tony Arnold
Alan, alan c wrote: alan c wrote: Alec Wright wrote: In the terminal, do this command: sudo aptitude update ; sudo aptitude upgrade Then you'll be using proper ubuntu feisty. To confirm this, do this command: lsb_release -sc And it should say feisty Thanks! will do it alan c It

[ubuntu-uk] Feisty 7.04 restart problem (shutdown)

2007-04-21 Thread alan c
I have 7.04 on a laptop and the restart works ok. However on a desktop (which works with any other distro I have tried) the restart does not complete - it seems to hang before shutdown (no screen display at that stage) and I have to force power off. This actually causes file systems to be 'not

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 7.04 upgrade tool crash - how to assess next action?

2007-04-21 Thread alan c
Tony Arnold wrote: Alan, alan c wrote: alan c wrote: Alec Wright wrote: In the terminal, do this command: sudo aptitude update ; sudo aptitude upgrade Then you'll be using proper ubuntu feisty. To confirm this, do this command: lsb_release -sc And it should say feisty Thanks! will do

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Fiesty Fawn Formally Freed for Future fetching !

2007-04-21 Thread Sean Miller
Andrew Williams wrote: I had the same issue, seems like the upgrade is smart and discounts any space it'll need for packages, so while you have 1gb free, it'll probably use 500ish for packages. My solution was to download the alt cd and upgrade from that. It is now saying it needs 201MB in