Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets

2007-06-14 Thread Chris Rowson
This is a superb idea :-D Chris It could be like a 3 step leaflet: Download, Burn, Install. Put another page full of 'myth-busters' (ie no it wont wreck your windows install, you wont lose data if you partition right, etc. Couple of screenshots and performance comparisons, quick explanation

[ubuntu-uk] Linspire and MS deal

2007-06-14 Thread alan c
Mmm... selected extract: Under the agreement, Linspire will license Microsoft code related to Voice over Internet Protocol, Windows Media files and TrueType fonts. With the addition of the Microsoft code to Linspire's operating system,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linspire and MS deal

2007-06-14 Thread Lee Tambiah
Linspire are windows wannabe's anyway I guess its great to be involved with Microsoft for them! But with now three distros joining the MS Corp they don't seem to have much faith about Linux not violating patents. These distros are sending out the wrong message and actually believe the FUD. I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets

2007-06-14 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
+1 M. On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 09:03:08 +0100, Chris Rowson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a superb idea :-D Chris It could be like a 3 step leaflet: Download, Burn, Install. Put another page full of 'myth-busters' (ie no it wont wreck your windows install, you wont lose data if you

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wireless Cracking was setting up bt home hub in ubuntu

2007-06-14 Thread Mark Harrison
baza wrote: What you have to remember is not to trust any security on your network. But, you can over do it. All of the 'hackers' I know won't sit outside your house trying to crack your WEP to get your eBay password etc. One of the simplest things you can do to keep people off your

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets

2007-06-14 Thread Mark Harrison
Does it have a GUI similar to Windows or do I need to learn code? I suspect that many Windows users won't know what the word GUI means. I'd suggest: Q: Does it look like Windows (TM) or an Apple (TM)? A: A bit like both - if you want a straightforward, easy to use, system, then the defaults

[ubuntu-uk] Searching for a Killer App

2007-06-14 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
Hi all, I've managed to convince my parents that Ubuntu is for them (My mum just got a new laptop with Vista and Office 2007 and thinks that it is completely unintuitive!) however there is one issue. They use Microsoft Publisher. Whilst there are many tools out there that will act as a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linspire and MS deal

2007-06-14 Thread Chris Jones
Hi Lee Tambiah wrote: I hope Ubuntu never signs a deal like this either, but I think we are safe, I don't think Mark Shuttleworth is that gullable. From: http://mybroadband.co.za/nephp/?m=showid=6672 So you wouldn’t do a deal? No, absolutely not. Cheers, -- Chris Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Searching for a Killer App

2007-06-14 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Matthew, On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 12:56:13PM +0100, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: They use Microsoft Publisher. Use or Used? Could they use Scribus under Linux? Whilst there are many tools out there that will act as a replacement, I am unable to find a program that will load and save

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Searching for a Killer App

2007-06-14 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
Alan, On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 12:10:15 +, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Matthew, On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 12:56:13PM +0100, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: They use Microsoft Publisher. Use or Used? Could they use Scribus under Linux? They could use scribus but they won't make

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Searching for a Killer App

2007-06-14 Thread Peter Tynan
On 14/06/07, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whilst there are many tools out there that will act as a replacement, I am unable to find a program that will load and save MS Pub files. A google search came up with

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Searching for a Killer App

2007-06-14 Thread luxxius
Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: snip Whilst there are many tools out there that will act as a replacement, I am unable to find a program that will load and save MS Pub files. Can anyone help? Will MS Pub run under Wine? (Just a thought - I don't know the answer!) -- Diana --

[ubuntu-uk] Tom Peters on Vista and Office 2007

2007-06-14 Thread Mark Harrison
I'm not sure how many of you know of Tom Peters, since he's not an IT person. He is, however, the world's best-selling business author, and a hugely respected top business consultant. The kind of person who charges £800 for a one-day seminar ticket, and fills an auditorium of several hundred

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Tom Peters on Vista and Office 2007

2007-06-14 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
Office is changing...so can you... ;o) Matt. On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:16:26 +0100, Mark Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure how many of you know of Tom Peters, since he's not an IT person. He is, however, the world's best-selling business author, and a hugely respected top

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linspire and MS deal

2007-06-14 Thread Michael
Chris Jones wrote: Hi Lee Tambiah wrote: I hope Ubuntu never signs a deal like this either, but I think we are safe, I don't think Mark Shuttleworth is that gullable. From: http://mybroadband.co.za/nephp/?m=showid=6672 So you wouldn’t do a deal? No, absolutely not. Cheers,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linspire and MS deal

2007-06-14 Thread Mark Harrison
Michael wrote: I only ask because according to LinuxDesktop.com's account of the patent deal [http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS9642338710.html], or at least the earlier draft pasted up on Ubuntu Forums, there's an EULA involved: According to sources, customers of Linspire's Linspire Linux

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Searching for a Killer App

2007-06-14 Thread Chris Jones
Hi Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: Only if they can edit the PDFs afterwards. PDF really isn't geared up to that kind of thing. You can make modifications, but it is a pain and is usually pretty limited. Cheers, -- Chris Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.canonical.com --

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linspire and MS deal

2007-06-14 Thread Michael
Chris Jones wrote: Hi Lee Tambiah wrote: I hope Ubuntu never signs a deal like this either, but I think we are safe, I don't think Mark Shuttleworth is that gullable. From: http://mybroadband.co.za/nephp/?m=showid=6672 So you wouldn’t do a deal? No, absolutely not. Cheers,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linspire and MS deal

2007-06-14 Thread Chris Jones
Hi Michael wrote: When CNR technology gets incorporated into Gutsy, I take it that Ubuntu and Ubuntu alone will be responsible for the content of the servers. I don't think any details have been announced yet as to how it will be arranged, nor the legal implications wrt the Microsoft deal

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linspire and MS deal

2007-06-14 Thread Michael
Chris Jones wrote: (FYI, despite my address, this is all my own opinion - it's just easier to keep all the ubuntu lists in one account :) I don't know of any sysadmin who doesn't speak his own mind ;) Best, Michael -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linspire and MS deal

2007-06-14 Thread Mark Harrison
Michael wrote: Chris Jones wrote: (FYI, despite my address, this is all my own opinion - it's just easier to keep all the ubuntu lists in one account :) I don't know of any sysadmin who doesn't speak his own mind ;) I know many... Those NT servers don't look after

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Searching for a Killer App

2007-06-14 Thread Eddie Armstrong
It seems Publisher is well known for this From 'http://blogs.msdn.com/jeff_bell/archive/2006/08/14/700473.aspx' If you have a recent copy of Publisher - Publisher 2002/XP, Publisher 2003 or Publisher 2007 - you should be able to open all Microsoft Publisher files that come your way. If you

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Searching for a Killer App

2007-06-14 Thread Alec Wright
On Thu, 2007-06-14 at 12:56 +0100, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: Hi all, I've managed to convince my parents that Ubuntu is for them (My mum just got a new laptop with Vista and Office 2007 and thinks that it is completely unintuitive!) however there is one issue. They use Microsoft

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Searching for a Killer App

2007-06-14 Thread alan c
Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: Alan, On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 12:10:15 +, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Matthew, On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 12:56:13PM +0100, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: They use Microsoft Publisher. Use or Used? Could they use Scribus under Linux? They

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Searching for a Killer App

2007-06-14 Thread Rob Beard
Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: Hi all, I've managed to convince my parents that Ubuntu is for them (My mum just got a new laptop with Vista and Office 2007 and thinks that it is completely unintuitive!) however there is one issue. They use Microsoft Publisher. Whilst there are many

[ubuntu-uk] Leaflets - something slightly different -

2007-06-14 Thread alan c
I see there is a thread with the subject of Leaflets. I have been away until recently so please forgive me if I am not dovetailing into the existing discussion well. I am an 'Infopoint' (note 1) volunteer - FOSS information at events and particularly Computer Fairs. I am lucky in having one

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets - something slightly different -

2007-06-14 Thread Robert McWilliam
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 22:11:44 +0100 alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not using my own web pages yet (I have a couple of virtually unused empty sites), so if somebody will volunteer, I will happily email them the leaflet (with only my own contact details edited out) for downloading by

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets - something slightly different -

2007-06-14 Thread Rob Beard
alan c wrote: I see there is a thread with the subject of Leaflets. I have been away until recently so please forgive me if I am not dovetailing into the existing discussion well. I am an 'Infopoint' (note 1) volunteer - FOSS information at events and particularly Computer Fairs. I am

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets - something slightly different -

2007-06-14 Thread alan c
Robert McWilliam wrote: On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 22:11:44 +0100 alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not using my own web pages yet (I have a couple of virtually unused empty sites), so if somebody will volunteer, I will happily email them the leaflet (with only my own contact details edited

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets - something slightly different -

2007-06-14 Thread Robert McWilliam
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 23:23:32 +0100 alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Robert - email and attachment on its way to you, the wiki is fine if you or someone could put it up please, and or your site - thanks again I'm too lazy to try and figure out where in the wiki would be appropriate:

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets

2007-06-14 Thread Matthew Larsen
The worst thing you can do is patronise people. I'm not saying what you wrote is patronising, I just think it needs to be rephrased. A lot of people treat their computers like cars: As long as it goes forwards, backwards and turns left and right - no-one cares how it works. The idea of the