[ubuntu-uk] Upgrading?

2007-10-20 Thread Freddie Ruddick
Hiya, I've been using 7.10 since the beta, and have obviously installed every update that it offered. At the moment, Update checker reports no updates. Just to check, I won't gain anything if I reinstall from the final CD, will I? Last time I rebooted (which was before the final release) a GRUB m

[ubuntu-uk] Gutsy,evolution problems

2007-10-20 Thread Daniel Lamb
Hi, Is anyone else having problems with the speed of evolution on Gutsy? I have checked, it is not the most up to date version, I have just managed to get my parents converted to ubuntu and would love this to work. Regards, Daniel -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mail

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Niggling wireless issue

2007-10-20 Thread David Martin
> > That's interesting. On my X31 (great laptop) the Fn-F5 combo does > nothing, I have read that it should operate the bluetooth adapter - I > have to switch it manually if it should get turned off by accident. I > don't have the standard wireless card though, this could account for the > differen

[ubuntu-uk] Emails posted to mailing list not threading

2007-10-20 Thread David Martin
Hi, I've just noticed whilst looking at the mailing list site and viewing this months emails sorted by thread, that emails sent by me aren't threading under the message I'm replying to. Can anybody help me with this? I'm using gmail, so could I have a setting wrong? I'm sure this has been covered

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Niggling wireless issue

2007-10-20 Thread Tom Bamford
That's interesting. On my X31 (great laptop) the Fn-F5 combo does nothing, I have read that it should operate the bluetooth adapter - I have to switch it manually if it should get turned off by accident. I don't have the standard wireless card though, this could account for the differences. Tom O

[ubuntu-uk] Gutsy, first reports!

2007-10-20 Thread Pete
Upgraded from Feisty to Gutsy. apt, Firefox and Evolution refuse to recognise network connection. Had the same problem with Etch and with Debian and never did solve it, depite picking everybody's brains. Have used either Kubuntu or Xbuntu in the past because of this but Ubuntu Feisty worked

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Niggling wireless issue

2007-10-20 Thread David Martin
> What model is your laptop? With my ThinkPad I can turn off various > internal devices including the Wireless adapter. In Windows it's a > checkbox to switch on and off but in Ubuntu I have to send commands to > ACPI files in /proc. I believe there are several laptops that work in > the same way.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] OEM Setup was Ubuntu via Tescos

2007-10-20 Thread Rob Beard
Ian Pascoe wrote: > Hey, I like this more and more! > > Just so that I've got it straight in my mind > > A. Install Ubuntu on computer > B. Set up computer with various apps and configs as required > C. Issue appropriate command before shutdown > D. Next boot up, new user goes through st

Re: [ubuntu-uk] OEM Setup was Ubuntu via Tescos

2007-10-20 Thread Dave Morley
On Sat, 2007-10-20 at 20:43 +0100, Ian Pascoe wrote: > Hey, I like this more and more! > > Just so that I've got it straight in my mind > > A. Install Ubuntu on computer > B. Set up computer with various apps and configs as required > C. Issue appropriate command before shutdown > D. Ne

Re: [ubuntu-uk] OEM Setup was Ubuntu via Tescos

2007-10-20 Thread Ian Pascoe
Hey, I like this more and more! Just so that I've got it straight in my mind A. Install Ubuntu on computer B. Set up computer with various apps and configs as required C. Issue appropriate command before shutdown D. Next boot up, new user goes through standard installation process Yeah?

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu via Tescos

2007-10-20 Thread Ian Pascoe
Jim Good point about the returns - what support, if any, are Tesco's offering? Maybe a quiet word with the store manager and a note left with the customer services desk with details of how to contact the local LUG or us? This goes back to a posting summer time about duplicating the Ohio Support

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu via Tescos

2007-10-20 Thread Rob Beard
Chris Rowson wrote: >>> setup Open Office to read/write Microsoft document format as standard. >>> That way I reckon quite a few people would just continue using Linux >>> without noticing much of a change. >>> >> Thats possible? >> >> Ahh, didn't know you could do that in OOo. :-) >> > > Sure, >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] OEM Setup was Ubuntu via Tescos

2007-10-20 Thread Rob Beard
Tom Bamford wrote: > I've used it in Feisty. When you're finished with the temporary user > account, you issue an oem-config-prepare command as root and shut the > machine down. The next boot takes you (ie. the end user) through a > config wizard to create a user, set the timezone etc. > > Regards

Re: [ubuntu-uk] OEM Setup was Ubuntu via Tescos

2007-10-20 Thread Rob Beard
Ian Pascoe wrote: > Rob - how? > > E > How what? Do a custom install? Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] OEM Setup was Ubuntu via Tescos

2007-10-20 Thread Chris Rowson
On 20/10/2007, Ian Pascoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rob - how? > > E There's this 'ere guvnor! https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview It's written for Dapper but well, you get the idea... Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu via Tescos

2007-10-20 Thread Chris Rowson
> > Thats possible? > > > > Ahh, didn't know you could do that in OOo. :-) > > > > Sure, > > Open writer for instance, go to Tool > Options > > On the left of that screen, select Load Save > General > > In that window you can now select the default file format to save as. > Simply asscociate text d

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu via Tescos

2007-10-20 Thread Chris Rowson
> > setup Open Office to read/write Microsoft document format as standard. > > That way I reckon quite a few people would just continue using Linux > > without noticing much of a change. > > > > Thats possible? > > Ahh, didn't know you could do that in OOo. :-) > Sure, Open writer for instance, g

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu via Tescos

2007-10-20 Thread Jim Kissel
Keith Cleaver wrote: > Rob Beard wrote: >> Keith Cleaver wrote: >> >>> John Levin wrote: >>> Just found this: http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-3224/btnResultSort.x%3d509/btnResultSort.y%3d291.aspx and http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-6129/btnResultSort.x%3d509/btnResultS

Re: [ubuntu-uk] OEM Setup was Ubuntu via Tescos

2007-10-20 Thread Tom Bamford
I've used it in Feisty. When you're finished with the temporary user account, you issue an oem-config-prepare command as root and shut the machine down. The next boot takes you (ie. the end user) through a config wizard to create a user, set the timezone etc. Regards, Tom On Sat, 2007-10-20 at 18

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Niggling wireless issue

2007-10-20 Thread Tom Bamford
What model is your laptop? With my ThinkPad I can turn off various internal devices including the Wireless adapter. In Windows it's a checkbox to switch on and off but in Ubuntu I have to send commands to ACPI files in /proc. I believe there are several laptops that work in the same way. Hope this

Re: [ubuntu-uk] OEM Setup was Ubuntu via Tescos

2007-10-20 Thread Matthew Wild
On 10/20/07, Ian Pascoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Rob - how? > > E In fact the latest version of Ubuntu has a really good OEM option so > you can setup a machine, customise it how you like it (including any > extra packages etc) and then set it up so on the next boot it asks the > customer

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wifi PCMCIA card - suggestions, please.

2007-10-20 Thread Tom Bamford
I've had great success with Atheros based cards on Ubuntu. I've had a Belkin Cardbus adapter that was an Atheros 5004 and worked perfectly in Edgy and Feisty. My current card is an Atheros a/b/g (although MiniPCI not PC card but in my experience they work just the same) and works very well in Feist

[ubuntu-uk] OEM Setup was Ubuntu via Tescos

2007-10-20 Thread Ian Pascoe
Rob - how? E -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rob Beard Sent: 20 October 2007 15:21 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu via Tescos Keith Cleaver wrote: > John Levin wrote: >> Just found this: >> http://direct.tesco.com/q/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 7.10 and md5sums

2007-10-20 Thread Rob Beard
alan c wrote: > I downloaded via torrents most of the ubuntu family as soon as they > were available. I am now checking md5 sum information on various of > the downloads, and the numbers are not coming good. I tried burning > regardless on xubuntu alternate i386, and chose 'check cd for defects

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 7.10 and md5sums

2007-10-20 Thread Kirrus
- "alan c" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I downloaded via torrents most of the ubuntu family as soon as they > were available. I am now checking md5 sum information on various of > the downloads, and the numbers are not coming good. I tried burning > regardless on xubuntu alternate i386, an

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu via Tescos

2007-10-20 Thread Rob Beard
Chris Rowson wrote: >> others will no doubt try and get a 'computer >> expert' friend to install XP. I bet there's a fair few people out there >> though would just see it as a cheap computer. >> >> Rob > > You're probably right there :-) > > I will say though, that a few people who's computer's

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wifi PCMCIA card - suggestions, please.

2007-10-20 Thread Mac
Alan Pope wrote: > Hi Mac, > > On Sat, 2007-10-20 at 09:56 +0100, Mac wrote: >> For example, linuxemporium recommends Edimax. I bought one some time >> ago, but it didn't work 'out of the box' with Feisty. It doesn't work >> 'out of the box' with Gutsy live CD. So I'm sceptical of anything th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: VoIP Headsets

2007-10-20 Thread Mac
Dave Walker wrote: > Plantronics are considered by many to be _the_ industry standard for > headsets. > > I have four Plantronics headsets and I would have to agree. They are > also all recognised in Ubuntu 'out-of-the-box'. I can confirm this. I use a Plantronics DSP 100 headset. It's usb -

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Gutsy, first reports!

2007-10-20 Thread Wulfy
norman wrote: >> Ah. I use Thunderbird and Firefox on Kubuntu... it's a config thing >> there: [Edit/Preferences/Advanced/Config editor] >> > > Thank you for trying to help because you gave me a nudge in the right > direction. Problem solved by System -> Preferences -> Preferred > Applicati

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Gutsy, first reports!

2007-10-20 Thread norman
> Ah. I use Thunderbird and Firefox on Kubuntu... it's a config thing > there: [Edit/Preferences/Advanced/Config editor] Thank you for trying to help because you gave me a nudge in the right direction. Problem solved by System -> Preferences -> Preferred Applications and under the Internet tab

Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: VoIP Headsets

2007-10-20 Thread Dave Walker
On Sat, 2007-10-20 at 15:53 +0100, Ian Pascoe wrote: > Afternoon All > > I'm in the process of researching for a USB Headset for use with VoIP on > both Windows and Linux. > > The last time I looked into this, one of our techys at work said that some > headsets suffered from low volume into the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Gutsy, first reports!

2007-10-20 Thread Wulfy
norman wrote: >> Which e-mail client? Which browser? >> > > Evolution Mail and Firefox. This has never happened before to me in > Ubuntu. > > Norman > > > Ah. I use Thunderbird and Firefox on Kubuntu... it's a config thing there: [Edit/Preferences/Advanced/Config editor] network.protoc

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu via Tescos

2007-10-20 Thread Chris Rowson
> others will no doubt try and get a 'computer > expert' friend to install XP. I bet there's a fair few people out there > though would just see it as a cheap computer. > > Rob You're probably right there :-) I will say though, that a few people who's computer's I've sorted out, wouldn't know wh

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu via Tescos

2007-10-20 Thread Rob Beard
Keith Cleaver wrote: > OK, thanks for clearing that up. > > It's a good move, but: > > 1) How many people buy a PC from Tesco in the first place? > You'd be surprised. At them prices I guess they will be picked up by folks who want a cheapo PC for the kids room (maybe to replace an older PC

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu via Tescos

2007-10-20 Thread Rob Beard
Chris Rowson wrote: >> In fact the latest version of Ubuntu has a really good OEM option so >> you can setup a machine, customise it how you like it (including any >> extra packages etc) and then set it up so on the next boot it asks the >> customer for their details. This is a feature I really

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Gutsy, first reports!

2007-10-20 Thread norman
> Which e-mail client? Which browser? Evolution Mail and Firefox. This has never happened before to me in Ubuntu. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/

[ubuntu-uk] OT: VoIP Headsets

2007-10-20 Thread Ian Pascoe
Afternoon All I'm in the process of researching for a USB Headset for use with VoIP on both Windows and Linux. The last time I looked into this, one of our techys at work said that some headsets suffered from low volume into the ear piece and in a noisy environment were hard to hear. Now, I don'

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wifi PCMCIA card - suggestions, please.

2007-10-20 Thread Ian Pascoe
Err, I know this sounds daft, but what happens if you contact the manufactuers directly and say "I'm running Linux kernal 2.whatever, which of your cards will work?" Perhaps, if they actually want to make the sale, they do have a compatability list or am I being a bit naive? E -Original

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu via Tescos

2007-10-20 Thread Keith Cleaver
Rob Beard wrote: > Keith Cleaver wrote: > >> John Levin wrote: >> >>> Just found this: >>> http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-3224/btnResultSort.x%3d509/btnResultSort.y%3d291.aspx >>> and >>> http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-6129/btnResultSort.x%3d509/btnResultSort.y%3d291.aspx >>> >>> Anyone t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu via Tescos

2007-10-20 Thread Chris Rowson
> In fact the latest version of Ubuntu has a really good OEM option so > you can setup a machine, customise it how you like it (including any > extra packages etc) and then set it up so on the next boot it asks the > customer for their details. This is a feature I really do like the look of. > >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu via Tescos

2007-10-20 Thread Rob Beard
Keith Cleaver wrote: > John Levin wrote: >> Just found this: >> http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-3224/btnResultSort.x%3d509/btnResultSort.y%3d291.aspx >> and >> http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-6129/btnResultSort.x%3d509/btnResultSort.y%3d291.aspx >> >> Anyone tried one? >> >> John > I thought only D

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu via Tescos

2007-10-20 Thread Rob Beard
John Levin wrote: > Just found this: > http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-3224/btnResultSort.x%3d509/btnResultSort.y%3d291.aspx > and > http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-6129/btnResultSort.x%3d509/btnResultSort.y%3d291.aspx > > Anyone tried one? > > John > Nope, would be interesting to see if they'r

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu via Tescos

2007-10-20 Thread Michael Wood
Keith Cleaver wrote: > John Levin wrote: > >> Just found this: >> http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-3224/btnResultSort.x%3d509/btnResultSort.y%3d291.aspx >> and >> http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-6129/btnResultSort.x%3d509/btnResultSort.y%3d291.aspx >> >> Anyone tried one? >> >> John >> > I t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Gutsy, first reports!

2007-10-20 Thread Wulfy
norman wrote: > When I click on a URL in an email say, the entry turns from blue to red > and does not open the link in the browser. Any one else found this > please. > > Norman > > > Which e-mail client? Which browser? -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wifi PCMCIA card - suggestions, please.

2007-10-20 Thread Stephen Drake
On Sat, 2007-10-20 at 13:04 +0100, Mac wrote: > Stephen Drake wrote: > > > Also consider Atheros based cards, usually with 108 Mbps, Xtreme G or > > Super G on the box. Most cards will work fine. Only the very latest > > cards have issues with the binary firmware. > > > Steve >>> I did wonder wh

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu via Tescos

2007-10-20 Thread Keith Cleaver
John Levin wrote: > Just found this: > http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-3224/btnResultSort.x%3d509/btnResultSort.y%3d291.aspx > and > http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-6129/btnResultSort.x%3d509/btnResultSort.y%3d291.aspx > > Anyone tried one? > > John I thought only Dell were authorised to sell PC's

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Gutsy, first reports!

2007-10-20 Thread norman
When I click on a URL in an email say, the entry turns from blue to red and does not open the link in the browser. Any one else found this please. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/

[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu via Tescos

2007-10-20 Thread John Levin
Just found this: http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-3224/btnResultSort.x%3d509/btnResultSort.y%3d291.aspx and http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-6129/btnResultSort.x%3d509/btnResultSort.y%3d291.aspx Anyone tried one? John -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-

[ubuntu-uk] 7.10 and md5sums

2007-10-20 Thread alan c
I downloaded via torrents most of the ubuntu family as soon as they were available. I am now checking md5 sum information on various of the downloads, and the numbers are not coming good. I tried burning regardless on xubuntu alternate i386, and chose 'check cd for defects' and nothing happene

[ubuntu-uk] Any recommendations for graphics cards?

2007-10-20 Thread Peter Lewis
Hi all, I'm sorry, I don't generally like to ask for hardware recommendation on these lists, but I'm a little confused about the compatibility and software options of the current lot of graphics cards, and figured that you guys might have some more up-to-date knowledge of this than me. I curre

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Gutsy, first reports!

2007-10-20 Thread norman
On Sat, 2007-10-20 at 12:25 +0100, Dave Walker wrote: > On Sat, 2007-10-20 at 12:03 +0100, norman wrote: > > > Upgrade went smoothly but somewhat slowly. I suppose lots of people > > > after the same files as me. Very pleased so far and, to my delight, my > > > scanner now works. Must check my cam

Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Gutsy Release Party

2007-10-20 Thread John Levin
Alan Pope wrote: > Hi all, > > I have _just_ got back from London after the release party organised by > John Levin. > > What a top night out. Thanks John, A pleasure. > and everyone else who came. I think > Dave Walker gets the prize for the furthest distance travelled > (Southampton to Londo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wifi PCMCIA card - suggestions, please.

2007-10-20 Thread Mac
Stephen Drake wrote: > Also consider Atheros based cards, usually with 108 Mbps, Xtreme G or > Super G on the box. Most cards will work fine. Only the very latest > cards have issues with the binary firmware. Steve >>> I did wonder whether to lash out on an Atheros-based card, but I wasn't su

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wifi PCMCIA card - suggestions, please.

2007-10-20 Thread Mac
Alan Pope wrote: > Hi Mac, > > On Sat, 2007-10-20 at 09:56 +0100, Mac wrote: >> For example, linuxemporium recommends Edimax. I bought one some time >> ago, but it didn't work 'out of the box' with Feisty. It doesn't work >> 'out of the box' with Gutsy live CD. So I'm sceptical of anything th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wifi PCMCIA card - suggestions, please.

2007-10-20 Thread Stephen Drake
On Sat, 2007-10-20 at 10:02 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: > Hi Mac, > > On Sat, 2007-10-20 at 09:56 +0100, Mac wrote: > > For example, linuxemporium recommends Edimax. I bought one some time > > ago, but it didn't work 'out of the box' with Feisty. It doesn't work > > 'out of the box' with Gutsy liv

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Gutsy, first reports!

2007-10-20 Thread Dave Walker
On Sat, 2007-10-20 at 12:03 +0100, norman wrote: > > Upgrade went smoothly but somewhat slowly. I suppose lots of people > > after the same files as me. Very pleased so far and, to my delight, my > > scanner now works. Must check my camera. > > No, unfortunately, camera is still not detected. >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Gutsy, first reports!

2007-10-20 Thread norman
> Upgrade went smoothly but somewhat slowly. I suppose lots of people > after the same files as me. Very pleased so far and, to my delight, my > scanner now works. Must check my camera. No, unfortunately, camera is still not detected. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] NVIDIA driver problem

2007-10-20 Thread Chris Rowson
> Chris > > Personally, as it seems to be more a config problem than a driver one, I'd > put it onto LaunchPad in any case. If for no other reason than to show the > hack you did to get round it. > Thanks for the advice, I filed the bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restr

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Niggling wireless issue

2007-10-20 Thread Michael Holloway
On Sat, 2007-10-20 at 00:04 +0100, Kris Marsh wrote: > On 10/19/07, Josh Blacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi guys, > > > > Not really asking for help as such, just flagging up something that's > > bugging me. I dual-boot windows and Gutsy on my laptop, as I'm sure > > many others do. Now, i

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wifi PCMCIA card - suggestions, please.

2007-10-20 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Mac, On Sat, 2007-10-20 at 09:56 +0100, Mac wrote: > For example, linuxemporium recommends Edimax. I bought one some time > ago, but it didn't work 'out of the box' with Feisty. It doesn't work > 'out of the box' with Gutsy live CD. So I'm sceptical of anything that > doesn't come with an

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wifi PCMCIA card - suggestions, please.

2007-10-20 Thread Mac
Alan Pope wrote: > Hi Mac, > > On Sat, 2007-10-20 at 08:16 +0100, Mac wrote: >> # can do WPA encryption >> # you actually have seen working out of the box with Gutsy (!) >> # I can buy currently from a UK vendor. >> > > http://linuxemporium.co.uk/products/wireless/ is probably a good place >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wifi PCMCIA card - suggestions, please.

2007-10-20 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Mac, On Sat, 2007-10-20 at 08:16 +0100, Mac wrote: > # can do WPA encryption > # you actually have seen working out of the box with Gutsy (!) > # I can buy currently from a UK vendor. > http://linuxemporium.co.uk/products/wireless/ is probably a good place to start. Cheers, Al. signatu

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Gutsy, first reports!

2007-10-20 Thread norman
< big snip > > > On feisty I was using the restricted driver with Beryl (and then plain > old Compiz), so I don't know why it's such a different experience on > Gutsy. But I am very impressed so far :) Upgrade went smoothly but somewhat slowly. I suppose lots of people after the same files as me.

[ubuntu-uk] Wifi PCMCIA card - suggestions, please.

2007-10-20 Thread Mac
I want to install Gutsy on an old Dell Inspiron. I'd be very glad of suggestions for an 802.11g PCMCIA card that # can do WPA encryption # you actually have seen working out of the box with Gutsy (!) # I can buy currently from a UK vendor. Please forgive the paranoia, but I have awful memo