Re: [ubuntu-uk] Song Pro or similar

2009-03-09 Thread Sean Miller
That Lyricue looks good... very good, in fact. How does it sync with the music? Does it play the music too, perhaps from MIDI files? Or, if it's a folk band, organist etc. do they have to ensure they keep in time with the software? Can just imagine the frustration of working the thing if the or

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Song Pro or similar

2009-03-09 Thread David King
This is something I am also interested in. I had a look at the program, installing it from the Ubuntu repositories. However, there seems to be no menu entry created for it and when I run it, nothing much seems to happen, e.g. I click on a hymn and put that into the playlist, click on Show but n

Re: [ubuntu-uk] get_iPlayer

2009-03-09 Thread David King
I'm using get_iplayer through command line, works perfectly for me, now I know how to use it. Apart from when I try to get a programme and it says that no iphone version is available and fails to download. David King Tim Dobson wrote: > Gerald Williams wrote: > >> Hi all >> > > http://

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Song Pro or similar

2009-03-09 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
This thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=388014 has a list of alternatives (although you may need to re-import your songs if that's how it works - I've never used this kind of software before!) POST #7: Re: Worship Software Our church uses SongBeamer, which is c

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Song Pro or similar

2009-03-09 Thread Anders Jacobsen
You might be able to do something (limited) similar to SongPro using OpenOffice Presentation. Alternatively, check out the Ubuntu Christian Edition forum - there are loads of people discussing your use case example here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=168 http://www.whatwouldjesusdownl

Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates

2009-03-09 Thread Rowan Berkeley
Ah, I see. I thought you were talking about using the other disc that came with the machine, the one without the apps. So I had completely the wrong idea of what you meant. Thanks. On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 16:02 +, Tony Travis wrote: > Rowan Berkeley wrote: > > But I would have lost all my applic

Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates

2009-03-09 Thread Tony Travis
Rowan Berkeley wrote: > But I would have lost all my applications if I had done what Tony > suggested earlier, here is what he said: > > "Did you try my advice of booting the kernel originally supplied by LC? > [...] Hello, Rowan. No you wouldn't! You can boot different kernels under the same '

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Apt Authentication Issue......

2009-03-09 Thread mac
John wrote: > I had a message to tell me that during an update, it failed with an > authentication issue. i followed the instructions, but got an error > message, something to do with E failing to update. I was just wondering, > does anybody have any ideaas why that should have happened? I got

[ubuntu-uk] Apt Authentication Issue......

2009-03-09 Thread John
I had a message to tell me that during an update, it failed with an authentication issue. i followed the instructions, but got an error message, something to do with E failing to update. I was just wondering, does anybody have any ideaas why that should have happened? Thank you. John. -- ubu

Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates

2009-03-09 Thread Rowan Berkeley
Yes, both discs they supplied contain their non-default driver along with all of the (otherwise standard) kernel components, but the one I used also contains the applications, whereas the other doesn't. On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 12:41 +, Sean Miller wrote: > On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Rowa

Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates

2009-03-09 Thread Rowan Berkeley
Michael, I am actually using the new machine right now, with the updater switched off. When this email came, I was just gonna go out and buy a pack of blank CD/R-W's. But since you offer, a ready-burned copy would be very nice. As it happens, everything on this list gets crawled by Google, so I sh

Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates

2009-03-09 Thread Sean Miller
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > You see I did ask LinuxCertified about the two discs they supplied, and > they confirmed that the one I have now used twice has all the > applications, but the other one has none of them. Be very interested to find out what this first disc

Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates

2009-03-09 Thread Sean Miller
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Michael G Fletcher wrote: > Great!  I think it explains where some of the frustration was creeping > into the list from :-)  Something we need to work on, making sure that > advise is targeted with the correct background information.  What many > saw as simple is n

Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates

2009-03-09 Thread Rowan Berkeley
But I would have lost all my applications if I had done what Tony suggested earlier, here is what he said: "Did you try my advice of booting the kernel originally supplied by LC? I don't think the 'restricted' drivers are the problem, it's the fact that LC installed a non-standard kernel module f

Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates

2009-03-09 Thread Michael G Fletcher
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > Indeed, I was laboring under a misconception there. It sounds quite > straightforward, when you explain it like that ... > > Great! I think it explains where some of the frustration was creeping into the list from :-) Something we need to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates

2009-03-09 Thread Sean Miller
I hadn't considered the LiveCD aspect... you are, of course, absolutely right Michael. So there's no need for Rowan to even install to prove that 8.10 brings up the network without any problems. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates

2009-03-09 Thread Rowan Berkeley
Indeed, I was laboring under a misconception there. It sounds quite straightforward, when you explain it like that ... On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 12:13 +, Michael G Fletcher wrote: > On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Rowan Berkeley > wrote: > > I wouldn't mind installing 8.10, and then I could run

Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates

2009-03-09 Thread Michael G Fletcher
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > I wouldn't mind installing 8.10, and then I could run all the updates as > and when they appear, and enjoy all the cutting edge improvements. But > it's true that I do not know whether the non-default interface driver > was necessitated by t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates

2009-03-09 Thread Rowan Berkeley
Hello, Michael, That's very nice of you to offer. You wouldn't want to come round here though, this place is unbelievably horrible, believe me. It has serious rising damp and galloping fungus mould all over the walls, and I am in dispute with my landlords about it even as we speak, with the assist

Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates

2009-03-09 Thread Rowan Berkeley
I wouldn't mind installing 8.10, and then I could run all the updates as and when they appear, and enjoy all the cutting edge improvements. But it's true that I do not know whether the non-default interface driver was necessitated by the particular interface card used by Compal, the manufacturer of

Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates

2009-03-09 Thread Michael G Fletcher
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > If all LinuxCertified did was buy a batch of snazzy Korean executive > laptops, with Windows Vista already installed on them, and then install > out-of-date and un-updatable versions of ubuntu on them, then tweak them > to make it work as lon

Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates

2009-03-09 Thread Tony Travis
Rowan Berkeley wrote: > If all LinuxCertified did was buy a batch of snazzy Korean executive > laptops, with Windows Vista already installed on them, and then install > out-of-date and un-updatable versions of ubuntu on them, then tweak them > to make it work as long as they weren't updated, then I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates

2009-03-09 Thread Rowan Berkeley
If all LinuxCertified did was buy a batch of snazzy Korean executive laptops, with Windows Vista already installed on them, and then install out-of-date and un-updatable versions of ubuntu on them, then tweak them to make it work as long as they weren't updated, then I would be better off without t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates

2009-03-09 Thread Sean Miller
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Alan Pope wrote: > Good luck. Let us know if it does, and if it doesn't I'm sure we can help. > > _however_ the solution _even_ if you are on 8.10 _may_ well still > involve downloading some source code and manually compiling it. > > Don't think that running the lat

Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates

2009-03-09 Thread Alan Pope
2009/3/9 Sean Miller : >  If you take that to its logical conclusion then > he'll never be able to upgrade anything in his life, which would be a > shame... stuck with a Spring 2008 version for the rest of the > machine's useful life... > Not true. You can't possibly know what extra versions LC wi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates

2009-03-09 Thread Sean Miller
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Alan Pope wrote: > indeed it _should_). However, the fact still remains that he'll likely > lose any support from LC. Is that a bad thing? If you take that to its logical conclusion then he'll never be able to upgrade anything in his life, which would be a shame..

Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates

2009-03-09 Thread Rowan Berkeley
If I was running a consistent and up to date version of the OS, the situation wouldn't arise in which I would be tempted to uncheck the drivers updates option. On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 09:19 +, Sean Miller wrote: > On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Alan Pope wrote: > > 2009/3/9 Sean Miller : > >>

Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates

2009-03-09 Thread Alan Pope
2009/3/9 Rowan Berkeley : > I think Sean's approach is a lot more sensible for someone in my > position than yours, Al: especially because he included the magic words, > "It should detect all your hardware fine." > "_should_" Good luck. Let us know if it does, and if it doesn't I'm sure we can he

Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates

2009-03-09 Thread Alan Pope
2009/3/9 Sean Miller : > Ah, hadn't spotted that... true... > still am of the opinion, though, > that if he's still at the stage where he can re-install (or "restore" > or whatever) without losing things he'd do better with a more > up-to-date, and "vanilla", install. > Sure, and I can understand

Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates

2009-03-09 Thread Rowan Berkeley
I think Sean's approach is a lot more sensible for someone in my position than yours, Al: especially because he included the magic words, "It should detect all your hardware fine." On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 07:36 +, Sean Miller wrote: > On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Rowan Berkeley > wrote: > >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates

2009-03-09 Thread Sean Miller
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Alan Pope wrote: > 2009/3/9 Sean Miller : >> I will repeat my previous advice -- forget "restore disc", install >> from 8.10 instead. >> > > That wouldn't help in this case. If he was running 8.10 vanilla and > unticked 'restricted' he'd end up in pretty much the sa

Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates

2009-03-09 Thread Alan Pope
2009/3/9 Sean Miller : > I will repeat my previous advice -- forget "restore disc", install > from 8.10 instead. > That wouldn't help in this case. If he was running 8.10 vanilla and unticked 'restricted' he'd end up in pretty much the same place. It's not the install disc, it's the user that's at

Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates

2009-03-09 Thread Alan Pope
2009/3/9 Rowan Berkeley : > I gotta tell you, this is worse than I thought. I set the update manager > to exclude "proprietary device drivers (restricted)" and allowed it to That wasn't wise. I'd recommend learning what things are before randomly unclicking them :) > download and install everyth

Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates

2009-03-09 Thread Chris Bannister (ubuntu mialing lists)
On 09/03/09 07:22, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > I gotta tell you, this is worse than I thought. I set the update manager > to exclude "proprietary device drivers (restricted)" and allowed it to > download and install everything else, and it again totally screwed up > the machine, knocking out among othe

Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates

2009-03-09 Thread Rowan Berkeley
I'm getting less reluctant all the time! On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 07:36 +, Sean Miller wrote: > On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Rowan Berkeley > wrote: > > I gotta tell you, this is worse than I thought. I set the update manager > > to exclude "proprietary device drivers (restricted)" and allow

Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates

2009-03-09 Thread Harry Rickards
Or, alternatively try the Jaunty (9.04) beta when it comes out on the 21st of March, if you aren't afraid of testing new things. Among other things it should probably have improved hardware support. Harry Quoting Sean Miller : > On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Rowan Berkeley > wrote: >> I go

Re: [ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates

2009-03-09 Thread Sean Miller
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > I gotta tell you, this is worse than I thought. I set the update manager > to exclude "proprietary device drivers (restricted)" and allowed it to > download and install everything else, and it again totally screwed up > the machine, knocking

[ubuntu-uk] comprehensively messed up by updates

2009-03-09 Thread Rowan Berkeley
I gotta tell you, this is worse than I thought. I set the update manager to exclude "proprietary device drivers (restricted)" and allowed it to download and install everything else, and it again totally screwed up the machine, knocking out among other things the high-resolution display, so I had to