Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu/Linux is still not an OS for the masses - discuss

2010-10-19 Thread javadayaz
HA Urdu! Hey i can follow the Urdu instructions...although not a great fan of the font! On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:19 AM, Rob Beard wrote: > On 19/10/10 21:29, Barry Drake wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 12:47 +0100, pmgazz wrote: > >> Totally agree, takes a fraction of the time and botheration

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LTS or Latest Version??

2010-10-19 Thread Alan Bell
On 20/10/10 00:07, Chris Coulson wrote: > > Well, the LTS *will* get a new version of Firefox in the future (once > 3.6 is end-of-life), although it will most likely skip 4.0. > > Regards > Chris no, don't think 10.04 LTS will get a new version of Firefox, however if you install 10.04 you will b

[ubuntu-uk] Devon & Cornwall LUG meeting in Exeter

2010-10-19 Thread Rob Beard
Hi folks, I figured I'd post this in case anyone lives near (or in) Exeter. The Devon & Cornwall Linux User Group are having a meeting (well it's more of a get together to chat about FLOSS, drink lots of tea/coffee and maybe play with the LTSP kit) on Saturday 23rd October 2010 from 2pm to 6pm

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu/Linux is still not an OS for the masses - discuss

2010-10-19 Thread Rob Beard
On 19/10/10 21:29, Barry Drake wrote: > On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 12:47 +0100, pmgazz wrote: >> Totally agree, takes a fraction of the time and botheration 95% of the >> time. > > That's my experience exactly! I've installed various incarnations of > Windows and it's been a real pain! Compared to tha

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LTS or Latest Version??

2010-10-19 Thread Chris Coulson
On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 23:58 +0100, Matthew Wild wrote: > On 19 October 2010 23:32, Tony Doherty wrote: > > I am always keen to update to the latest releases of Ubuntu. > > > > However, can I ask - if I were to stick with a LTS version such as 10.4 > > long term - would this version eventually rec

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LTS or Latest Version??

2010-10-19 Thread Matthew Wild
On 19 October 2010 23:32, Tony Doherty wrote: > I am always keen to update to the latest releases of Ubuntu. > > However, can I ask - if I were to stick with a LTS version such as 10.4 long > term - would this version eventually receive updates to upgrade to the latest > versions of, say, FireFo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LTS or Latest Version??

2010-10-19 Thread Daniel Case
With the LTS versions they have "mini" updates. So eventually it goes to: 10.04.1, then 10.04.2...with these will come the stable builds of new software :) Daniel -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

[ubuntu-uk] LTS or Latest Version??

2010-10-19 Thread Tony Doherty
I am always keen to update to the latest releases of Ubuntu. However, can I ask - if I were to stick with a LTS version such as 10.4 long term - would this version eventually receive updates to upgrade to the latest versions of, say, FireFox and OpenOffice when they become available? Or, are th

[ubuntu-uk] Minutes of ubuntu-uk loco meeting

2010-10-19 Thread Dan Fish
All, Please find the minutes of the loco meeting held on 19th October at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/LastMeeting Regards Dan -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu/Linux is still not an OS for the masses - discuss

2010-10-19 Thread Barry Drake
On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 12:47 +0100, pmgazz wrote: > Totally agree, takes a fraction of the time and botheration 95% of the > time. That's my experience exactly! I've installed various incarnations of Windows and it's been a real pain! Compared to that, Ubuntu is just S simple. My biggest an

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Advice on motherboard upgrade ...

2010-10-19 Thread Barry Drake
On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 13:55 +0100, Adam Bagnall wrote: > Looking at the spec I think the parallel and com ports are in the form > of pins on the board. There's no parallel or com port in the picture > and they're listed under the "Internal I/O Connectors" section. I've downloaded the full manual.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Find a Router's IP address

2010-10-19 Thread Vince Marsters
On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 16:54 +0100, Cornelius Mostert wrote: > Hi > The scenario is as follow: > 1. You have permission to work as Admin on a Lan > 2. You do NOT have any documentation from the previous Admin > 3. You find a router / WiFi Router that is in use and therefore you > can NOT reset it >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Find a Router's IP address

2010-10-19 Thread Shaun ONeil
On 19 Oct 2010, at 16:54, Cornelius Mostert wrote: > Hi > The scenario is as follow: > > 3. You find a router / WiFi Router that is in use and therefore you can NOT > reset it > > 5. You need to brows to the routers config web page to make some changes (you > assume the default admin and pass

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Find a Router's IP address

2010-10-19 Thread Steve Fisher
On 19 October 2010 18:18, Hakan Koseoglu wrote: > On 19/10/10 16:54, Cornelius Mostert wrote: > > The scenario is as follow: > > 1. You have permission to work as Admin on a Lan > > 2. You do NOT have any documentation from the previous Admin > > 3. You find a router / WiFi Router that is in use

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Find a Router's IP address

2010-10-19 Thread Hakan Koseoglu
On 19/10/10 16:54, Cornelius Mostert wrote: > The scenario is as follow: > 1. You have permission to work as Admin on a Lan > 2. You do NOT have any documentation from the previous Admin > 3. You find a router / WiFi Router that is in use and therefore you can > NOT reset it > 4. This router is a "

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Find a Router's IP address

2010-10-19 Thread Alan Pope
On 19 Oct 2010, at 17:21, Tim Dobson wrote: > On 19/10/10 17:05, Alan Pope wrote: >> On 19 October 2010 16:54, Cornelius Mostert >> wrote: >> >> Is >> >>> 1. You have permission to work as Admin on a Lan >> >> All of which probably contravenes rule 1 you set out. > > As I read it, you appear to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Inverness - Support - Where are we in the real world

2010-10-19 Thread alan c
On 18/10/10 14:25, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: > > Have a look at TeamViewer - it's very very easy to use and needs nothing > installed on their machine. There's a Linux version of it been released > recently. > http://www.teamviewer.com/download/index.aspx Team viewer certainly seems a good faci

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Find a Router's IP address

2010-10-19 Thread Alan Bell
On 19/10/10 16:54, Cornelius Mostert wrote: > Hi > The scenario is as follow: > 1. You have permission to work as Admin on a Lan > 2. You do NOT have any documentation from the previous Admin > 3. You find a router / WiFi Router that is in use and therefore you > can NOT reset it > 4. This route

Re: [ubuntu-uk] TC65T gsm/gprs modem

2010-10-19 Thread Jacob Mansfield
the modem uses the standard AT command set, and setserial is now installing. I'll let you know if it works now Jacob Mansfield Programmer On 19 October 2010 17:17, Simon Greenwood wrote: > > > On 19 October 2010 16:46, Jacob Mansfield wrote: > >> I have just purchased a TC65T to use with my m

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Find a Router's IP address

2010-10-19 Thread Tim Dobson
On 19/10/10 17:05, Alan Pope wrote: > On 19 October 2010 16:54, Cornelius Mostert > wrote: > > Is > >> 1. You have permission to work as Admin on a Lan > > All of which probably contravenes rule 1 you set out. As I read it, you appear to have misread parent. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com htt

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Find a Router's IP address

2010-10-19 Thread pmgazz
Try the usual suspects (192.168.1.1 / 192.168.0.1 / 192.168.1.254 etc etc). If that doesn't work, google the model for it's default IP and hope no-one changed it ;) Paula On 19/10/10 16:54, Cornelius Mostert wrote: Hi The scenario is as follow: 1. You have permission to work as Admin on a La

Re: [ubuntu-uk] TC65T gsm/gprs modem

2010-10-19 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 19 October 2010 16:46, Jacob Mansfield wrote: > I have just purchased a TC65T to use with my monitoring server to send out > text alerts. I've tried using the serial port terminal to communicate with > it but there is no response. I think that the PC's serial port is not > working correctly wi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Find a Router's IP address

2010-10-19 Thread Tony Pursell
On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 16:54 +0100, Cornelius Mostert wrote: > Hi > The scenario is as follow: > 1. You have permission to work as Admin on a Lan > 2. You do NOT have any documentation from the previous Admin > 3. You find a router / WiFi Router that is in use and therefore you > can NOT reset it >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Find a Router's IP address

2010-10-19 Thread Alan Pope
On 19 October 2010 16:54, Cornelius Mostert wrote: Is > 1. You have permission to work as Admin on a Lan and > 5. You need to brows to the routers config web page to make some changes not mutually exclusive? I.e. you're saying you're not allowed to administer the LAN but you're going to anywa

[ubuntu-uk] Find a Router's IP address

2010-10-19 Thread Cornelius Mostert
Hi The scenario is as follow: 1. You have permission to work as Admin on a Lan 2. You do NOT have any documentation from the previous Admin 3. You find a router / WiFi Router that is in use and therefore you can NOT reset it 4. This router is a "home" / consumer router like Netgear, Linksys, etc. S

[ubuntu-uk] TC65T gsm/gprs modem

2010-10-19 Thread Jacob Mansfield
I have just purchased a TC65T to use with my monitoring server to send out text alerts. I've tried using the serial port terminal to communicate with it but there is no response. I think that the PC's serial port is not working correctly with Ubuntu. can anybody give me a hand to get it working pro

Re: [ubuntu-uk] UDS-N Remote participation how to get involved

2010-10-19 Thread Laura Czajkowski
On 19/10/10 15:06, Laura Czajkowski wrote: >Aloha folks just thought I'd drop you a line with some information on > how to get involved during UDS-N even if you can't be present we still > want to have you taking part and contributing. > > > HOW TO GET THE MOST FROM SESSIONS > > 1- The first

[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu November- A little school project for you all?

2010-10-19 Thread Tim Dalton
Hello all, Apologies for joining and posting to the list all in one day, but we have a project going on that we thought you might be interested in getting involved with (and Alan said we should post on here...). I'll stick a link at the bottom of the post to a more detailed version, but in short

[ubuntu-uk] UDS-N Remote participation how to get involved

2010-10-19 Thread Laura Czajkowski
Aloha folks just thought I'd drop you a line with some information on how to get involved during UDS-N even if you can't be present we still want to have you taking part and contributing. HOW TO GET THE MOST FROM SESSIONS 1- The first thing you should do is register your attendance for remot

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools

2010-10-19 Thread Colin Law
On 19 October 2010 14:14, javadayaz wrote: > Yes thats what i meant. The expert has "located" to the problem to a faulty > hard drive which is why it kept shutting down. Im not convinced though. > I should still be able to boot my pc up with no hard drives attached and > just a CD rom correct? I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools

2010-10-19 Thread javadayaz
Yes thats what i meant. The expert has "located" to the problem to a faulty hard drive which is why it kept shutting down. Im not convinced though. I should still be able to boot my pc up with no hard drives attached and just a CD rom correct? On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Colin Law wrote: >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools

2010-10-19 Thread Colin Law
On 19 October 2010 14:03, javadayaz wrote: > Apologies for bringing this dead thread back to life. > Would just like a quick opinion  from someone on this... > As you know my pc kept shutting down mysteriously. I took it into a local pc > shop who are telling me that a faulty hard drive is causing

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools

2010-10-19 Thread javadayaz
Apologies for bringing this dead thread back to life. Would just like a quick opinion from someone on this... As you know my pc kept shutting down mysteriously. I took it into a local pc shop who are telling me that a faulty hard drive is causing the shut downs. I seem to recall the pc shutting

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu/Linux is still not an OS for the masses - discuss

2010-10-19 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
On 19/10/2010 12:47, pmgazz wrote: And the bizarre rituals for installing USB peripherals so XP doesn't lose the driver. I could NEVER understand that. Even in Win 7, insert a USB stick you get "installing device drivers". Remove it and insert another make of USB stick into the SAME USB

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Advice on motherboard upgrade ...

2010-10-19 Thread Neil Greenwood
On 19 October 2010 13:55, Adam Bagnall wrote: > On 19 October 2010 13:36, Barry Drake wrote: >> >> Plus it's got nice things like a parallel port, >> and I still have a couple of nice printers that I could use  hmmm >> I'm going to re-read the spec a few times but I'm almost sold on >>

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Advice on motherboard upgrade ...

2010-10-19 Thread Adam Bagnall
On 19 October 2010 13:36, Barry Drake wrote: > Plus it's got nice things like a parallel port, > and I still have a couple of nice printers that I could use hmmm > I'm going to re-read the spec a few times but I'm almost sold on > that one. Thanks. > Looking at the spec I think the p

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Christmas pis^H^H^H Party

2010-10-19 Thread pmgazz
Yes. At least three in this picture alone. http://picasaweb.google.com/alanbelltolc/UbuntuUK#5418430093759282834 Al. What a relief! Missed that one . . . -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Advice on motherboard upgrade ...

2010-10-19 Thread Barry Drake
On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 10:27 +0100, Adam Bagnall wrote: > I know you said you were looking to spend around £120, but if I were > in your position I'd spend the extra £25 for > http://www.ebuyer.com/product/237052 Ooh I hadn't considered that I'm really tempted. The cost is not the real

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Christmas pis^H^H^H Party

2010-10-19 Thread Alan Bell
On 19/10/10 12:22, pmgazz wrote: Agree, Hub much nicer :) Paula OK, several votes for the Hub then! I would rather go for the Kings Cross Hub as the Islington one has about 8 flights of stairs and no lift. I gave them a call, they are thinking of doing a shared event for several smaller

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Christmas pis^H^H^H Party

2010-10-19 Thread Alan Pope
On 19 October 2010 12:48, pmgazz wrote: > On 19/10/10 10:42, Alan Bell wrote: > Here are some of the pictures from the event last year: > http://picasaweb.google.com/alanbelltolc/UbuntuUK > OMG were there any women at all? > Yes. At least three in this picture alone. http://picasaweb.google.c

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Christmas pis^H^H^H Party

2010-10-19 Thread pmgazz
On 19/10/10 10:42, Alan Bell wrote: Here are some of the pictures from the event last year: http://picasaweb.google.com/alanbelltolc/UbuntuUK Alan. OMG were there any women at all? Paula -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu/Linux is still not an OS for the masses - discuss

2010-10-19 Thread pmgazz
On 19/10/10 10:24, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 13/10/2010 12:08, John Matthews wrote: On 13/10/10 11:49, chris cundy wrote: Installing Ubuntu IS as easy as installing Windows and a darn sight faster to get a fully-functioning machine. Once you have installed Windows you THEN have to inst

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Christmas pis^H^H^H Party

2010-10-19 Thread pmgazz
On 18/10/10 19:54, Alan Bell wrote: I would rather not do a pub evening for this (but we should do one some other time). Agree, Hub much nicer :) Paula -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Christmas pis^H^H^H Party

2010-10-19 Thread Alan Bell
Here are some of the pictures from the event last year: http://picasaweb.google.com/alanbelltolc/UbuntuUK Alan. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Advice on motherboard upgradw ...

2010-10-19 Thread Adam Bagnall
I know you said you were looking to spend around £120, but if I were in your position I'd spend the extra £25 for http://www.ebuyer.com/product/237052 You say the main reason for an upgrade is to improve video rendering. Whilst I've got no experience with Kino I suspect it uses ffmpeg or mencoder

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu/Linux is still not an OS for the masses - discuss

2010-10-19 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
On 13/10/2010 12:08, John Matthews wrote: On 13/10/10 11:49, chris cundy wrote: I think the point of any Linux desktop distro is not that everything will work perfectly with every combination of hardware available but to work with most hardware. The issue with computer users is not that they

[ubuntu-uk] IRC Meeting tonight 19th October

2010-10-19 Thread Dan Fish
Just a reminder that the next full team meeting is scheduled for this evening 19th October at 20:00 UTC (2100 BST) and will be held in #ubuntu-uk-meeting on irc.freenode.net Regards Dan -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UK

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Support - Where are we in the real world

2010-10-19 Thread ian pettitt
On 18/10/10 22:23, Alan Bell wrote: >On 18/10/10 22:20, Will Bickerstaff wrote: >> >> There is an open streetmap plugin for wordpess that can place multiple >> markers using a flat file. >> >> http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/osm/ >> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wp-osm-plugin#adding