Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] A lesson in marketing - Congo condoms -Ted5 minute video

2011-09-23 Thread thegeeksquadron
As someone who made the switch under a year ago, I can testify the amount you learn. I used to know little to nothing, but not - not an expert, but I know a substantial amount, learning for some people can be the switching point. Nick -- -Original Message- From: Barry Ti

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] A lesson in marketing - Congo condoms - Ted5 minute video

2011-09-23 Thread Barry Titterton
On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 22:15 +0100, alan c wrote: > On 22/09/11 18:06, paul sutton wrote: > > If a friend complains their computer has a virus, ask what is a > > virus?,and say you use Ubuntu and never have that issue, offer to dual > > boot their computer or at least boot a live cd and recover th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] efi boot, Windows 8 and Linux

2011-09-23 Thread John Oliver
On 23/09/11 20:33, paul sutton wrote: On 23/09/11 20:25, Avi Greenbury wrote: Juan J. wrote: On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 13:06 +0100, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 22/09/2011 00:06, Alan Bell wrote: On 21/09/11 23:29, Bea Groves wrote: Just read the following. Comments? yeah, it is potentiall

Re: [ubuntu-uk] efi boot, Windows 8 and Linux

2011-09-23 Thread paul sutton
On 23/09/11 20:25, Avi Greenbury wrote: > Juan J. wrote: > >> On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 13:06 +0100, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: >>> On 22/09/2011 00:06, Alan Bell wrote: On 21/09/11 23:29, Bea Groves wrote: > Just read the following. Comments? > yeah, it is potentially very nasty. >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] efi boot, Windows 8 and Linux

2011-09-23 Thread Avi Greenbury
Juan J. wrote: > On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 13:06 +0100, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: > > On 22/09/2011 00:06, Alan Bell wrote: > > > On 21/09/11 23:29, Bea Groves wrote: > > >> Just read the following. Comments? > > >> > > > yeah, it is potentially very nasty. > > > > Even more so when the next step

Re: [ubuntu-uk] efi boot, Windows 8 and Linux

2011-09-23 Thread Avi Greenbury
Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: > Now whether Windows 8 will even be a factor in this I don't know. > Certainly AFAIK (as above) many large corporations have not yet > upgraded to Windows 7, even though it's been out for nearly two years > now and XP comes out of support in 30 months As time goe

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Marketing [Was Re: efi boot, Windows 8 and Linux]

2011-09-23 Thread paul sutton
On 23/09/11 19:40, Avi Greenbury wrote: > Paul Sutton wrote: >> i can show kids my netbook adn tell them about alternatives but >> unless there is a proper support structure out there its going to be >> hard to get them to try it, as they need help when they need it >> even with windows floss soft

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Marketing [Was Re: efi boot, Windows 8 and Linux]

2011-09-23 Thread Avi Greenbury
Paul Sutton wrote: > i can show kids my netbook adn tell them about alternatives but > unless there is a proper support structure out there its going to be > hard to get them to try it, as they need help when they need it > even with windows floss software. Linux has better end-user support than

Re: [ubuntu-uk] efi boot, Windows 8 and Linux

2011-09-23 Thread Bea Groves
Hi! You can say that again! The biggest problem I have is to try to get people to distinguish between 'Microsoft skills' and 'computer skills' - and that's a huge uphill struggle. The problem is: it's a situation exacerbated by the fact that the whole education sector is virtually a 'Windows-only'

Re: [ubuntu-uk] efi boot, Windows 8 and Linux

2011-09-23 Thread paul sutton
On 23/09/11 18:43, Juan J. Martínez wrote: > On Fri, 2011-09-23 at 18:07 +0100, paul sutton wrote: >>> >>> When I'm talking to voluntary sector orgs >>> they frequently say to me that >>> Microsoft Wind

Re: [ubuntu-uk] efi boot, Windows 8 and Linux

2011-09-23 Thread Juan J.
On Fri, 2011-09-23 at 18:07 +0100, paul sutton wrote: > > > > > When I'm talking to voluntary sector orgs > > they frequently say to me that > > Microsoft Windows is 'part of the computer' > >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] efi boot, Windows 8 and Linux

2011-09-23 Thread paul sutton
> > When I'm talking to voluntary sector orgs they frequently > say to me that > Microsoft Windows is 'part of the computer' and if you > change the OS it > won't work properly any more. This could make that current > misconce

Re: [ubuntu-uk] efi boot, Windows 8 and Linux

2011-09-23 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 23 September 2011 16:59, Tony Pursell wrote: > > > On 23 September 2011 16:20, James Morrissey wrote: > >> This appeared on the OMGUbuntu site earlier today: >> >> >> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/microsoft-attempt-address-windows-8-linux-worries/ >> >> james. >> >> On 23 September 2011 16

Re: [ubuntu-uk] efi boot, Windows 8 and Linux

2011-09-23 Thread Tony Pursell
On 23 September 2011 16:20, James Morrissey wrote: > This appeared on the OMGUbuntu site earlier today: > > > http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/microsoft-attempt-address-windows-8-linux-worries/ > > james. > > On 23 September 2011 16:05, gazz wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 00:06 +0100,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Open Source Schools Project - literacy

2011-09-23 Thread Liam Proven
On 23 September 2011 16:53, Joe wrote: > > Sorry, > Can't resist: "his", "hers" are equivalent to "its", the rest could also be > "their", "our" or "your". This example is your, not mine? Or this conversation is our, as it is between you and me? They couldn't "also be" - I think this is a case d

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Open Source Schools Project - literacy

2011-09-23 Thread Joe
-Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Liam Proven Sent: 23 September 2011 15:04 To: **; UK Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Open Source Schools Project - literacy :¬) WHS. Or the way I try to help people

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Python Question

2011-09-23 Thread Matthew Sturdy
On 23 September 2011 09:56, Dave Hanson wrote: > > Thanks again for the fast responses. I should have just posted here instead > of searching for two hours - Doh! > Don't forget the guys at Python IRC [http://www.python.org/community/irc/]... they've been very helpful to me in the past! -- ubun

Re: [ubuntu-uk] efi boot, Windows 8 and Linux

2011-09-23 Thread James Morrissey
This appeared on the OMGUbuntu site earlier today: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/microsoft-attempt-address-windows-8-linux-worries/ james. On 23 September 2011 16:05, gazz wrote: > > > On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 00:06 +0100, Alan Bell wrote: > > On 21/09/11 23:29, Bea Groves wrote: > > > Just

Re: [ubuntu-uk] efi boot, Windows 8 and Linux

2011-09-23 Thread gazz
On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 00:06 +0100, Alan Bell wrote: > On 21/09/11 23:29, Bea Groves wrote: > > Just read the following. Comments? > > > yeah, it is potentially very nasty. > To be Windows 8 certified computers will have to be able to do this > secure boot thing. Most will include an option to tu

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Python Question

2011-09-23 Thread Dave Hanson
Thanks Tyler, I did look at that but saw no way to tell it to use the entire disk. Juanjo/Simon - Thanks, that was the only alternative I could think of but considered it long winded if there was a sort of universal option like Tyler suggested. I'll probably use sys.platform then. It's not much

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Python Question

2011-09-23 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 23 September 2011 15:38, Dave Hanson wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > I have scoured the web and can only find half baked answers to my question > - I'm hoping someone here can help? > > I know that Python is classed as a portable programming language (it will > run on anything) So I'm wondering h

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Python Question

2011-09-23 Thread Juan J.
On Fri, 2011-09-23 at 15:38 +0100, Dave Hanson wrote: > [...] > It works fine on my Ubuntu machine, It won't run on a Windows machine > (haven't tested) I think because I'm calling the unix version of find > and also my path is /, obviously this would be c: in windows. It won't work because you're

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Python Question

2011-09-23 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On 2011-09-23 15:38, Dave Hanson wrote: > I want to search the entire disk of any OS to find the Firefox cache > directory. Is it even possible to do this? I don't particularly need the > code to do it (I don't mind if you want to share though!) What I'm really > after is - Am I wasting my time eve

[ubuntu-uk] Python Question

2011-09-23 Thread Dave Hanson
Hello Everyone, I have scoured the web and can only find half baked answers to my question - I'm hoping someone here can help? I know that Python is classed as a portable programming language (it will run on anything) So I'm wondering how do you code in such a way that your script can just be 'po

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Open Source Schools Project - literacy

2011-09-23 Thread Liam Proven
On 23 September 2011 09:35, ** wrote: > A small point but perhaps more important given that you are trying to > impress teachers: > its = the possessive form of it (i.e. belonging to it) > it's = the abbreviation of 'it is'. :¬) WHS. Or the way I try to help people remember it... You wouldn't p

Re: [ubuntu-uk] efi boot, Windows 8 and Linux

2011-09-23 Thread alan c
On 22/09/11 22:31, paul sutton wrote: > How do you educate people about this new technology built in to BIOS's > without boring people,.confusing people with what they see as compex > jargon or worse coming across as paranoid. All of which is counter > productive, This is the genius of the strat

[ubuntu-uk] Adwords Vouchers

2011-09-23 Thread Dave Hanson
Morning All, I have three adwords voucher codes for £50 each if anyone wants one? I can't use them as you can only use one voucher per account - Over any period of time. I don't think it breaks any sort of rules doing this, does anyone know? Best Regards, Dave Hanson

Re: [ubuntu-uk] efi boot, Windows 8 and Linux

2011-09-23 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
On 22/09/2011 22:31, paul sutton wrote: Well there seems to be a market for PC's minus an OS now, I suppose it all depends on what your target "market" is. It would be interesting to find out the ratio of computers (and by that term I mean both laptops and desktops) used in business to that o

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Open Source Schools Project - literacy

2011-09-23 Thread **
A small point but perhaps more important given that you are trying to impress teachers: its = the possessive form of it (i.e. belonging to it) it's = the abbreviation of 'it is'. John -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTea