Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

2007-02-13 Thread Pat
On 14/02/07, Daniel Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pat wrote: > OK Richard Stallman, I'm sure you're not so insensitive as to compare > the civil rights struggle and suffrage to your preference for Open > Source softwar

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

2007-02-13 Thread Pat
On 14/02/07, baza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Am I bovered? Does this face look bovered? You disrespecting my family? You calling me a Piky? Now look what's happened - you've gone and made Baza go all Catherine Tatey. The world may never recover. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.u

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

2007-02-13 Thread Pat
On 14/02/07, Daniel Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 1) Civil rights for black people, women etc. were never gained through market forces. We're attempting to attain freedom of software for all people, the same applies (to an extent) to us. OK Richard Stallman, I'm sure you're not so insens

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

2007-02-13 Thread Pat
On 14/02/07, Daniel Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No, seriously, if we do nothing, things are just bound to change, aren't they? That's the way all change has happened in this world. Market forces change the world. Not much else. If GNU/etc represents enough of a revenue to a manufactur

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

2007-02-13 Thread Pat
On 13/02/07, Daniel Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And how would you back up your argument, which appears to be that there's no point doing anything which won't get immediate results? If we don't do this stuff then it won't happen. So instead of citing any justification for your "argument

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

2007-02-13 Thread Pat
On 13/02/07, Daniel Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I would argue that letters stating the fact that you're not intending to spend your money on them because of licenses would make a difference. ...and how would you back up that argument - examples of Free software users' letters affectin

[ubuntu-uk] renouveau - helping the nvidia driver team.

2007-02-13 Thread Pat
Could I draw your attention to a thread on the forums about the renouveau tool. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=357369 It seems that anyone with an nvidia card can help out the open source nvidia driver guys by running this small application and sending the results back. I don't know h

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

2007-02-13 Thread Pat
On 13/02/07, Daniel Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pat wrote: > On 13/02/07, *Daniel Watkins* > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > > 1. Why do you want to increase the profits of

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

2007-02-13 Thread Pat
On 13/02/07, Robbo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not a fan of Software Patents myself but in the meantime you can Patent your software "ideas" to help Linux... http://www.openinventionnetwork.com / Yes, I have come across it. I have a bit of a problem with Software Patents in general, though;

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

2007-02-13 Thread Pat
On 13/02/07, Daniel Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. Why do you want to increase the profits of a company that uses > software patents to extort cash? Particularly given the threat that > software patents pose to Free Software. I'm not. I want them to Free their drivers. This is what,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

2007-02-13 Thread Pat
On 13/02/07, Daniel Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In addition, it doesn't do to be snooty about who we decide to ask to Free their drivers. Any Free drivers are a win for the momentum of the Free software movement. Snooty??!!! Excellent argument - you may just have won me round to your

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

2007-02-13 Thread Pat
On 13/02/07, Daniel Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pat wrote: > How would I write letters on a Kodak printer without purchasing one? Write letters to them saying that you won't consider purchasing their products unless there ar

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

2007-02-13 Thread Pat
On 13/02/07, Daniel Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I believe that Llywelyn was, in fact, referring to the writing of letters, emails etc., rather than the actual purchase. I'm not sure I follow... How would I write letters on a Kodak printer without purchasing one? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.u

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

2007-02-13 Thread Pat
On 13/02/07, Llywelyn Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: But you may benefit in the long term if they are successful enough to disrupt the status quo I can't see myself benefitting from anything that Kodak or SCO or any other failing company turned patent-troll does. My take on it was that they

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

2007-02-13 Thread Pat
On 13/02/07, Llywelyn Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kodak is introducing a line of desktop printers and low cost replacement inks. A brave move which I hope will break the dominance of the proprietary cartridge sellers. I hope

Re: [ubuntu-uk] 6.10 Apache2/PHP problem: You have chosen to open [blank] which is a: PHTML file

2007-02-07 Thread Pat
On 07/02/07, David M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: When I try to open a PHP URL, I get the following error (in Firefox): eg, for http://localhost/, where the implied index URL is served via PHP: You have to chosen to open [blank line] which is a: PHTML file I would check that you have mod-php

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Etiquette

2007-02-06 Thread Pat
On 06/02/07, Caroline Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We seem to spend far to much discussing this. I've seen horrors like top posting done by core developers on other lists are really no-one cares ;) Good point . Discussions about how to hold discussions. Meta-discussions? Where would it

Re: [ubuntu-uk] stop frame animation

2007-02-05 Thread Pat
On 05/02/07, London School of Puppetry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is there an OS programme that can be used to animate still images- something similar to Flash? - I have been asked by a local secondary school. They have one computer with Linux installed. Caroline lsp Have you looked at synf

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Fwd: Fwd: ADSL problem

2006-12-27 Thread Pat
ry the static dns entries if you haven't already. Another interesting page mentioning a similar issue is http://blog.maniacmartin.com/2006/12/07/turning-a-modem-into-a-router/ good luck, Pat -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Looking to jump into Ubuntu

2006-12-17 Thread Pat
of buying their laptops without a preinstalled OS, so I was thinking of replacing my aging Acer with one of their machines... Pat -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-GPL Linux Kernel Modules Banned Starting January 2008 (??)

2006-12-14 Thread Pat
On 14/12/06, Gargoyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 14 Dec 2006, at 20:33, Pat wrote: > On 14/12/06, alan c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Non-GPL Linux Kernel Modules Banned Starting January 2008 > ... >> >> I note Linus' response which I find a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-GPL Linux Kernel Modules Banned Starting January 2008 (??)

2006-12-14 Thread Pat
de closed source into our system they sell-out everyone who contributed openly. I'm afraid that I side a lot more with RMS than Linus over GPL issues. Pat. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Done wrote my MP!

2006-11-24 Thread Pat
On 24/11/06, Matthew Saunders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have emailed my MP for Chelmsford, Essex with a similar letter to > some posted here. (Anyone else come from Essex on this list?) Yes, Southend here - I'll be emailling David Ames today. I had quite encouraging responses from him & one

Re: [ubuntu-uk] GTK and C

2006-11-19 Thread Pat
, but I find it can be a bit unwieldy at home, and I like to do something different at the end of the day anyway. I like Netbeans for Java, and that seems to have acquired a C/C++ environment now - I might play with that next. I had to smile at the comment I saw on Slashdot recently - "You do

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Daft stuff for a friday afternoon conversation.

2006-11-16 Thread Pat
On 16/11/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Quoting nicholas butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Okay im prempting the friday but im thinking about this now. > > I know we all love to neticorrect each other on the various issues > related to etiquette and manners so why not lets see if

Re: [ubuntu-uk] GTK and C

2006-11-15 Thread Pat
haven't used anjuta much, I found the way it sets up its compile options confusing! It seemed to behave very bizarrely with the pkgconfig for gtkmm, the C++ wrapper for GTK. I also had a play with Eclipse CDT for C/C++ and didn't like that either, so I've been using gvim for an editor,