Re: [ubuntu-uk] A small Bet, because Im fed up with not knowing.

2006-10-09 Thread Daniel Taylor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 (Just to take this slightly off-topic as the BBC ramps up its anti-hacker story) The another issue that the BBC constantly gets wrong (and the rest of the media) is this whole 'hacker' business, it annoys me that fraudsters can be around for centurie

Re: [ubuntu-uk] A small Bet, because Im fed up with not knowing.

2006-10-09 Thread STONE COLD
itish Ubuntu Talk >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], British Ubuntu Talk > >Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] A small Bet, because Im fed up with not knowing. >Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 10:42:32 +0100 > >Nik, > >On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 09:00 +0100, Nik Butler wrote: > > > demonstrate a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] A small Bet, because Im fed up with not knowing.

2006-10-09 Thread Alan Pope
On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 11:14:05AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Surely the only way to demonstrate it would be to knowingly infect > your own machine? how stupid do you think I am I ain't about to do > that! > qemu/vmware can provide you with a "safe" environment in which to practice. "Safe"

Re: [ubuntu-uk] A small Bet, because Im fed up with not knowing.

2006-10-09 Thread Tony Arnold
On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 10:51 +0100, Nik Butler wrote: > So . Hence my question.. how easy is it really to make a process from > email to infection. I suspect on Linux, the process would not start from e-mail, mainly because of the lack of execute permission on e-mail attachments and the extra st

Re: [ubuntu-uk] A small Bet, because Im fed up with not knowing.

2006-10-09 Thread stude . list+ubuntuuk
oopsy, sent this a minute ago but bounced as I used the wrong email address to send from. > On 09/10/06, Nik Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I really want to know if any one has actually > suffered from and can in some way demonstrate to me the following. > > demonstrate a working Linux Vir

Re: [ubuntu-uk] A small Bet, because Im fed up with not knowing.

2006-10-09 Thread Nik Butler
Tony Arnold wrote: > Nik, > does not say all the attacks were viruses! > True > I've seen plenty of Linux/Unix systems compromised. The vast majority > have been compromised through weak passwords or user's password being > discovered. > As for any system, though we can see our security explo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] A small Bet, because Im fed up with not knowing.

2006-10-09 Thread Tony Arnold
Nik, On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 09:00 +0100, Nik Butler wrote: > demonstrate a working Linux Virus that can > infect their Ubuntu desktop account ( and other users of that same > machine ) by being launched from a email attachment. > it must infect the core system files. > it must set u

Re: [ubuntu-uk] A small Bet, because Im fed up with not knowing.

2006-10-09 Thread Nicholas Butler
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/breakfast/5414892.stm -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] A small Bet, because Im fed up with not knowing.

2006-10-09 Thread David Hart
On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 09:00:56AM +0100, Nik Butler wrote: > So the BBC have yet again trotted out the same tired old news article [snip] What news article are you talking about? -- David Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubunt

[ubuntu-uk] A small Bet, because Im fed up with not knowing.

2006-10-09 Thread Nik Butler
So the BBC have yet again trotted out the same tired old news article about safe surfing. As usual they dont suggest trying a different opertating system ( well they disparage it as well ! ) but they never really seem to investigate this new story in any depth. Now I know that we talk about it